Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved
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Hi everyone, I've been reading this thread for a long time, but this is my first post. I have early P5Q-Dlx (box says made in taiwan) with Q9450 and 4 x 2G Patriot 4-4-4 DDR2-800 memory, Thermalright Ultra Extreme cooler with scythe S-Flex 1600rpm fan.
I have been running back and forth between bios 803 and everything else, to no real progress in achieving stable gaming performance with my replacement 8800GT ever since I moved past 803 back in July and coincidently killed my Palit 8800GT-1G.
Been running with LLC enabled with Core voltage of 1.3375 at FSB460, 3680Mhz. Not a great cpu, but usually stable with the occasional win32.sys bsod in xp-64. Max temp under Intel burn test is 72.
Now with 1406 bios, i've ventured higher to a setting similar to rusty, shown below:
I idle at 41 deg, and max out at 75 under the Intel Burn test.
Running Prime fft it maxes out at 63.
Is this too much voltage for 24/7 operation? I have it set for speedstep, and usually the CPU doesn't go above 50 deg.
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 470
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 941
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO
CPU Voltage: 1.36250
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.675
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.675
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.38
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.38
NB GTL Reference: 0.645
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
CPU Margin Enhancement : Optimized
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Auto
C1E Suppport: Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Intel SpeedStep Tech : Enabled
Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved
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Leeghoofd, might I ask what your bios settings are for the 1406 e8400 rig? Also is that on air?
I have virtually the same rig with mushkin redline (except with 8800gt) and have been using the 0803 bios for a long time because everything else was very unstable!
Thanks in advance!
*Oh and i'm 24/7 stable at 3.6 @ 450fsb
Anyone know if the SB and PCIE SATA voltages overvolt like vFSB, vPLL, and vNB when set to AUTO or default voltage?
Don't use Auto as it increases it too much. Well at least it used to. Just bump it up one notch so you have fixed voltage instead Auto. That should do it.
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Hey guys, first post here. But been reading a lot.
So got:
* P5QDELUXE REV 1.XX 1406 bios
* E8400 (C0) @ 3960 Mhz
* Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 EPP 2x1Gb
* Noctua NH-U12P, with 3 chained NF-P12
* Arctic silver 5
Im aiming for a 24/7 system. Seems pretty stable so far. Tested with Prime95 and LinX.
A little hot tho.
idle:
MB 41
CPU 23
Core1 35
Core2 35
100% load (LinX 13000 x20):
MB 44
CPU 58
Core1 63
Core2 62
Any idea to improve stability and reduce hotness?
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
FSB Frequency: 495
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 990
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): Auto
READ to READ Delay (S): Auto
READ to READ Delay (D): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): Auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): Auto
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: Auto
READ to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Auto
AI Transaction Booster: Auto
CPU Voltage: 1.40
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement : Optimized
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Intel SpeedStep Tech : Disabled
Intel C-state Tech : Disabled
Last edited by bobbys; 10-18-2008 at 02:40 AM.
both the cpu gtl's at .63 helped me bring the v cores down
K mate I compared ya settings you got from Mushkin, seems to me they really want you to relax timings...I compared them with the timings set by the AUTO function of the bios (in bold)
On my rig with the quad (which might give other results then the E8400) your settings from Mushkin and the Auto bios settings are quite shocking in Everest benchmarkPHP Code:
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 14-15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4 --> 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 5 -->3
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 10 --> 7
Write to Read Delay (S): 5 --> 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 6 --> 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 7 --> 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 7 --> 5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 6 --> 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 6
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: 14
READ to PRE Delay: 6 --> 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Light
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
All Pull-Ins : Enabled
Your settings give :
READ : 7778 WRITE : 9568 COPY : 8806 LATENCY : 59.4ns
AUTO Bios settings for subtimings :
READ : 9023 WRITE : 9568 COPY : 9470 LATENCY : 59.3ns
I just put AI clock twister to Moderate and got this slight improvement, with Static read control to enabled the rig didn't pass the linpack test :
So there's still some bandwith to go for mate !
Last edited by Leeghoofd; 10-18-2008 at 10:19 AM.
Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved
Remark : They call me Pro AsusSaaya yupp, I agree
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I really don't know what the hell is happening with my pc... Vista keeps crashing, even after passed prime95 stability test![]()
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Already tested with two sets of dram sticks, so it can't be from there I think...
Going to format it again and this time I'll stick with XP Pro SP3 instead of Vista SP1 and start the tests all over again![]()
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I'll start the test in XP with these bios settings:
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual (timings: 5-5-5-15)
CPU Voltage: 1.33125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.67
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.64
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.14
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: 0.63
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
CPU VID: Disabled
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Last edited by BRSG; 10-18-2008 at 11:25 AM.
Q9450
Asus P5Q Deluxe (Bios 1406)
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XFX 9500GT
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Try a linpack test mate, it will prolly give errors... prime isn't 100% bulletproof, neither is Linpack but it's stresses harder...
Try this :
CPU Voltage: up a bot more Vcore eg 1.4 to try it out
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24
DRAM Voltage: 2.04
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: 0.62
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Also put in TRFC to 55 and Disable SRC
Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved
Remark : They call me Pro AsusSaaya yupp, I agree
30 cycles of Linpack at max memory, should give a pretty high confidence of stability...and it completes in a fraction of the time an 18 or 24 hour prime95 blend does...great Linpack interface here. I've found if my box lasts 30 cycles of Linpack, prime95 never finds any issues running 30+ hours.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=201670
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Been there, done that mate... With the same settings above, and after 50 runs of linpack this is the result:
as you can confirm at this post in the previous page: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...postcount=4420
Regarding to your settings suggestion, I'll try them out as soon as I install XP Pro SP3
With Linpack at max memory all I get is a Linpack program crashHad to choose one of the other options, custom, to test 1500MB of RAM...
The problem is that even after all these tests Vista crashes and I don't know why... Sometimes the computer is in idle mode, no stress program running and other times I have Folding@Home running in the background![]()
Last edited by BRSG; 10-18-2008 at 02:10 PM.
Q9450
Asus P5Q Deluxe (Bios 1406)
2 x 2GB Corsair Dominator PC2-8500
WD 320GB Sata II
XFX 9500GT
All powered by a Corsair TX-750W PSU!
Sorry, I should have mentioned that...by max memory, it's the max memory you can get away with without linpack crashing...the available memory calculations on the interface are still off...so you have to dial it down until it works...
Also you can try turning off LLC...you will have to up your VCore to do it though...you can try around 1.36 +- .01 in the BIOS (which would actually be around 1.34 in CPUz).
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Known limitation of the Linpack proggy in 32bit OS environment... choose either half the ram or a custom value like you did... I would run HCI memtest on your rig too or some Hyperpi 32Mb... second option : either your cpu is burned in and might need a tad more vcore or something else corrupted ya Vista install... hope the XP is working flawless... I still love my Pro and Pro 64 ones...
Let us know what gives...
Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved
Remark : They call me Pro AsusSaaya yupp, I agree
which use voltage to 450 FSB?
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CPU Voltage:
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): ?
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): ?
CPU PLL Voltage: ?
FSB Termination Voltage: ?
DRAM Voltage: -
NB Voltage: ?
NB GTL Reference: ?
SBridge Voltage: ?
PCIE SATA Voltage: ?
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Hi guys, I'm getting one of these P5Q Deluxe's this month to replace my year-old GA-X38-DQ6 and as I've read so far, she likes G.SKILLS right?
I'm putting on her all the components of my sig. Any BIOS voltage advices for Q6700 3.4Ghz 24/7? Much appreciated
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Ok been on here lurking and trying to figure this thing out. My components consist of an E8400 stepping C0, P5Q Deluxe, and 2x2 Gig of Corsair Ram. I have been really struggling with this cpu for some time now, even with my old P35 Platinum P.O.S MSI board. The cpu is crap and very unstable @ anything ove 4 Ghz. Here are my current settings that are actually stable for quite some time now. Could use a little more help with the advanced settings such as NB GTL, FSB Termination Voltage, CPU GTL etc. I have tried some of the settings recommended here but as you will notice my voltages are quite a bit higher then most. I know I can lower them a bit if I can understand what these other settings actually do. thx
JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 7.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 533
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Strong
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Strenght 11
CPU Voltage: 1.4500
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2):AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3):AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.74
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
DRAM Voltage: 2.16
NB Voltage: 1.46
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
CPU Margin Enhancement : Optimized
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 7.5
C1E Suppport: disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Intel SpeedStep Tech : disabled
I don't see the logic behind your settings, you tell us you have no clue how to setup, so just pumping voltages seems to your solution...
If your CPU is already been bricked by the MSI, doesn't mean you have to brick ya Asus board too...
Try the above settings and look for stability, remember more volts is not always better !!
Your CPU Pll is totally whack so is ya FSB term voltage... NB voltage is overkill
Just start with those settings and report back what it does... first look for CPU stability then tweak the ram...
Last edited by Leeghoofd; 10-19-2008 at 12:16 AM.
Question : Why do some overclockers switch into d*ckmode when money is involved
Remark : They call me Pro AsusSaaya yupp, I agree
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Well well, I've found out what makes my system BSOD on cold boots -- it's because of my external HDD connected to the eSATA port! I noticed the other day that that every time the system BSODs upon boot, I could hear the external HDD was active. So I tried disconnecting it the next day, and voilá! No BSOD. So I've come to the conclusion that Windows BSODs when the external HDD (WD MyBook2 1TB) turns itself on, which happens when Windows is half-way done loading. When the system reboots the HDD is already running, so Windows loads fine. I tried enabling boot ROM for the Marvell IDE/eSATA controler in the bios, but that just makes the system hang after POST, and will not boot until I've restarted the sytem around 3 times.
So yeah, after all this time spent trying to figure out what it was, it was the damn eSATA controller. I guess my only option is to buy a PCI controller and use that instead? I'm a bit disappointed that this Marvell controller is that bad, because I hoped it was better than the Jmicron controller that was on my previous motherboard (but alteast that didn't make my system BSOD!).
Last edited by jagt; 10-19-2008 at 04:42 AM.
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Asus seem to be breaking a lot of things in BIOS releases to date, try my 704m for your board, its about the most complete un-bugged BIOS. Due to the mods I have done to it as well, you won't be missing much in the way of compatibility and fixes (that don't break other things)
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