Intel Core i7-965: 50% more performance than QX9770

[naokaji]

I saw these i7's on UK e-tailor overclockers, the Extreme i7 cost around £870, rather chip eh.

They removed them now, but dont take the pre launch prices and even those on launch day serious, real price will be lower, ocuk allways pulls that overpricing crap to rip people off, just wait a day or two after launch and other stores have them as well and it will be atleast 10% less throughout.

[LowRun]

Why in the hell don't we see Shintai jump in and burst that over hyped bubble

[Shintai]

Why in the hell don't we see Shintai jump in and burst that over hyped bubble

Oh, I just ignored it for abit. Sounded like the 64lane Ibexpeak and there is no source/screens.

So ye, movie edit, rendering. Yes.
Games...Unless you run that valvemap or vantagejunk then no.

But again, since we dont know the numbers it could be crap or right. It could also be 52% faster raytracing.

Else yes, its overhyped if you even have the slighest idea of this being in regular games.

(Core i7-965 platform: X58, DDR3 3G, Discrete VGA card, QX9770 platform unknown.)

In short...pretty much useless garbage news.

[mXpS]

maybe, but the benchmark was ran at 3.2ghz

He was talking about the Yorkie

[Lestat]

the 133mhz bus is interesting.

i hate to be the downer here but so long as we are crippled by the current line of hard drives and over priced under performing SSD drives all this power doesnt mean anything really.. the drives cant feed the system fast enough. its just a bottleneck that there is no sign of done away with.

maybe when processing power gets to the point where hard drives are running 100% 24/7, then maybe thos elazy hard drive makers will start making faster hard drives.

[T_Flight]

Damn me those things are coming out soon and I have not even managed to build my latest pile of computer parts and watercooling stuff.

I have an Asus Rampage Extreme, an E8500, a Q9550, 4GB DDR3, 2 ATI 4870X2 with EK Blocks, 4 Radiators (3 PAs on TFC360) and 6 1TB HDs and LOL all are sitting idle because I don't have FREAKING time to built that thing.

By the time I make it Icore 7 will be running at 10GHzzz and my parts will have gone to waste.


Do you think I should sell them now before I even build them (M/B - CPUs) and get a Nehalem? But I really don't want to deal with all the initial M/B bugs this time.

What bugs? Intel doesn't do bugs. This is Intel CPU's and Chipsets we're talking about here.

[informal]

T-Flight if you believe intel chips and chipsets have no "bugs",you should check the current errata list...

PS Intel had a "TLB" issue too,even before Barcelona launched,but they reacted fast too :
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...e-2-cpu-errata
http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Expla...ticle10362.htm

[Jacky]

Weren't people saying that cache size is all that matters ?

LOL, yeah. Now what is it really?
According to JJ it's (also) due to branch prediction improvements. As Superpi is just a huge loop IIRC.

12.7 is really slow for 4ghz
triple channel DDR3, really fast l2 and 8mb of fast L3 might help....

I'm pretty sure the memory speed is important for 16 and 32M. I'm not sure about 1M, though.

EDIT:

T-Flight if you believe intel chips and chipsets have no "bugs",you should check the current errata list...

PS Intel had a "TLB" issue too,even before Barcelona launched,but they reacted fast too :
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquir...e-2-cpu-errata
http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Expla...ticle10362.htm

Maybe he meant Intel doesn't do showstopper bugs?

[Metroid]

Sorry but Nehalem gaming boost over QX9770 will be 5 - 10 % :| Only 3DMark Vantage's CPU-test and Lost Planet's Cave timedemo will get huge improvements since those support 8 threads.

05 to 10% in games is pretty much good if you think about, which means Intel is going in the right direction and it tends to get better with the tick ramp.

Metroid.

[Bo_Fox]

the 133mhz bus is interesting.

i hate to be the downer here but so long as we are crippled by the current line of hard drives and over priced under performing SSD drives all this power doesnt mean anything really.. the drives cant feed the system fast enough. its just a bottleneck that there is no sign of done away with.

maybe when processing power gets to the point where hard drives are running 100% 24/7, then maybe thos elazy hard drive makers will start making faster hard drives.

Yes, hard drives are slow compared to the CPU, memory, GPU, etc.. but with pre-caching, everything is loaded off the hard drive into the memory. As long as you have enough main memory and GPU memory, you should be fine.

I've even played some games straight off my DVD drive without installing it, and yes the loading times are about 5-10 times longer but it still plays just fine.

[clayton]

For short... those who already owns a Quad and waiting for gaming improvements, don't get Nehalem. Those that are still waiting to move to Quadcore someday, look no further. I7 is the replacement.

[Blauhung]

For short... those who already owns a Quad and waiting for gaming improvements, don't get Nehalem. Those that are still waiting to move to Quadcore someday, look no further. I7 is the replacement.

but if your crunching, get multiple Nehalem!!!

[Movieman]

but if your crunching, get multiple Nehalem!!!

and in a week or so I will see what a Nehalem will do compared to a QX9770 in WCG..
My guess? Does the term "kick the snot out of it" mean anything to you?

[MrMojoZ]

Maybe he meant Intel doesn't do showstopper bugs?

Like the Pentium flaw? Isn't that the most well known CPU bug ever?

[Shintai]

For short... those who already owns a Quad and waiting for gaming improvements, don't get Nehalem. Those that are still waiting to move to Quadcore someday, look no further. I7 is the replacement.

Thats my plan aswell. Also why I kept my E6600 so long. Tho the super cheap 45nm quads was so tempting. I will wait all the way to Lynnfield. My longest time without an upgrade...but the E6600 is still pretty hardcore. Just upgraded the GFX once.

[rozzyroz]

He was talking about the Yorkie

oh, i thought the yorkie did 12.2 at 4ghz?

i'll have to be honest, i just scrolled through the pics and found the benchmarks with some sort of validation.. didnt see anything about a yorkie in there, so i thought he was commenting on the person he was quoting

[jaredpace]

it's less like a positive 52% and more like negative 8% in cod4 here:

http://diy.pconline.com.cn/cpu/revie...426985_14.html

[AuDioFreaK39]

and in a week or so I will see what a Nehalem will do compared to a QX9770 in WCG..
My guess? Does the term "kick the snot out of it" mean anything to you?

Wait wait, why do you say "in a week or so"?

Does that imply a mid-October release?

[Bellisimo]

it's less like a positive 52% and more like negative 8% in cod4 here:

http://diy.pconline.com.cn/cpu/revie...426985_14.html

seems very plausible

[Blauhung]

Wait wait, why do you say "in a week or so"?

Does that imply a mid-October release?

hehe, I think it's more likely that Dave has got something up his sleeve.

[Shadowmage]

What bugs? Intel doesn't do bugs. This is Intel CPU's and Chipsets we're talking about here.

You've got to be kidding me.

[Shadowmage]

Weren't people saying that cache size is all that matters ?

This is a really silly statement. Obviously it's a function of cache size and latency. For example, a 1 second latency 1GB cache is pretty pointless

[JumpingJack]

it's less like a positive 52% and more like negative 8% in cod4 here:

http://diy.pconline.com.cn/cpu/revie...426985_14.html

This was done on B0 stepping, C0 is out and about... it is plausible that this is not representative.

[safan80]

Westmere is 6 core for UP and DP, and 12 core for MP platforms with its 32nm refresh of Beckton. There is nothing with 8 or more cores for desktop coming out till probably 2010.

they used to have an 8 core on their roadmap I don't care if I have to wait till 2010. I will not be jumping on intel's first IMC chip.

12.7 is really slow for 4ghz

I didn't get 12.7 I got 12.2 with all my crap running it the background plus I was doing a large file copy and I'm using vista which is slower for superpi. if I wanted nice numbers I'd fire up xsos.

[Shadowmage]

This was done on B0 stepping, C0 is out and about... it is plausible that this is not representative.

I think that this was a platform issue which has since been fixed.