lol yeah I removed it cos I thought it was a bit OT but what the hell. Thanks for the reply mate. Makes sense, I never saw running it that low help in benches like everest but it does make SPI faster, and it makes sense it would makes apps feels snappier too. So long as you don't crash out of games with it that low it's fine (that's the one symptom I have noticed running it too low, 3D apps crash to desktop, but it causes no errors in orthos/memtest etc).