Official HD4870X2 (R700) Review Thread

[ahmad]

read this
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=2807960

does not make me happy. .. time for a smoke.

he could have issues you dont know though. For example, he forgot to plug in pci-e cables? Or maybe his PSU doesn't have enough juice? Or maybe he got a defective card?

Too many unanswered questions to judge. Besides he has the UT, unlike you.

[safan80]

he could have issues you dont know though. For example, he forgot to plug in pci-e cables? Or maybe his PSU doesn't have enough juice? Or maybe he got a defective card?

Too many unanswered questions to judge. Besides he has the UT, unlike you.

true but the UT and LT X48 ddr2 boards have the same bios. I'll know for sure after the ups guy drops off my box.

[mascaras]

Are the 8.8 drivers out yet? Is there somewhere I can get the 8.8 betas? I'm suppose to be getting the cards today.

8.8 final not realesed yet ( anytime soon)

8.8 beta >>>>>> http://www.files.to/get/347201/2f00xwmemt

btw: finally i converted the videos with a better image quality , uploading now

regards

[safan80]

8.8 final not realesed yet ( anytime soon)

8.8 beta >>>>>> http://www.files.to/get/347201/2f00xwmemt

btw: finally i converted the videos with a better image quality , uploading now

regards

thanks. did you install 4800 series hot fixes, or are they not needed with these drivers?

[mascaras]

thanks. did you install 4800 series hot fixes, or are they not needed with these drivers?

no hotfix , only cat 8.8 beta !


videos with a litle better image (recording with FRAPS)

1680x1050
Very High
AA 4x


>> http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=11424a6

>> http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=17cf0c2


regards

[Lightman]

read my sig I have the same board.

DFI has early BETA BIOS fixing that issue

Read Hardware Canucks review for more info. From article..

To cut a long story short, we brought in another DK X38 T2R along with a beastly LanParty LT X48 T2R and found both new boards to have the same video display issue so we immediately knew that it was the board itself and not the card. After searching through the DFI Beta site, a BIOS was found that completely resolved the problem with the incompatibility between the motherboard and the HD4870 X2.

At this time we have only experienced problems with DFI’s X48 and X38 boards. The P35 and P45 series seem to be fine but if you are having problems with either of these chipsets, please post in our HD4870 X2 comment thread and we will try to sort things out.

[safan80]

DFI has early BETA BIOS fixing that issue

Read Hardware Canucks review for more info. From article..

I've had that bios. At This point I'm just waiting for the cards to get here and that they work.

[Lightman]

I've had that bios. At This point I'm just waiting for the cards to get here and that they work.

Then let us know what is the outcome!
Fingers crossed

[Flinch]

Hi Everyone,

I'm contemplating picking up the X2, but I've read conflicting posts that state vsync can't be used on that card due to AFR

I run 90% of my games with it-I can't stand tearing, so it will be an essential function.

So, is this fact or fiction?

Thanks

[SKYMTL]

FYI for everone who tried the Beta BIOS from DFI. It seems that it works for some boards and not others. On the three boards I have now tested it on it works, on a forum member's board it didn't seem to.

Good going DFI...

[ether.real]

Hi Everyone,

I'm contemplating picking up the X2, but I've read conflicting posts that state vsync can't be used on that card due to AFR

I run 90% of my games with it-I can't stand tearing, so it will be an essential function.

So, is this fact or fiction?

Thanks

V-synch works fine. IF you would like me to run a specific test I would be glad to.

[Flinch]

Thanks ether.real,

I've never run a multi-gpu card before and wanted to make sure this was not an issue.

I appreciate it.

Flinch

[mascaras]

Unbornchield , here is the bench you asked


I only run 2 loops , dont know if with default Run (4 loops) the results are better , even so :


Crysis Assault_Harbour
1680x1050
Very High
AA 4x






Average = 31 Fps

[ahmad]

Unbornchield , here is the bench you asked


I only run 2 loops , dont know if with default Run (4 loops) the results are better , even so :


Crysis Assault_Harbour
1680x1050
Very High
AA 4x


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Average = 31 Fps

How come neither dx9 or dx10 are selected? I would like to see it with dx10. I thought you should be getting higher than 31FPS.

[Cooper]

Unbornchield , here is the bench you asked


I only run 2 loops , dont know if with default Run (4 loops) the results are better , even so :


Crysis Assault_Harbour
1680x1050
Very High
AA 4x


http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img....jpg&srv=img34



Average = 31 Fps

I can't say that tool is reliable. I still prefer to set the settings in game and than run the batch files for test.

[Unbornchild]

he could have issues you dont know though. For example, he forgot to plug in pci-e cables?

On my Maximus Formula i would get a message on screen "NO PCI-E CABLE IS PLUGGED IN THE VGA CARD. PLUG THE CABLE IN IMMEDIATELY". or similar (forgot the exact words)...

Unbornchield , here is the bench you asked


I only run 2 loops , dont know if with default Run (4 loops) the results are better , even so :


Crysis Assault_Harbour
1680x1050
Very High
AA 4x


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Average = 31 Fps

Thanks very much Mascars!

Yes the first of the 4 level-bench loops is always somwhat slower (only maybe 1 fps less, no big deal).
No question, i'll buy 4870X2 anyway, as soon as i can get my hands on one.

How come neither dx9 or dx10 are selected? I would like to see it with dx10. I thought you should be getting higher than 31FPS.

Yes he forgot that! Mascars never shows the bottom line in his bench window (it would reveal the type of test run). Oh and Mascars: the 64 bit version of the exe does not run ANYTHING better than the 32 bit version. Subjectively, the 32 bit version seemed more fluid. On my single 4870, Cat 8.7, Vista Ult 64 SP1, 8 GB RAM, DX10 VH / 1440x900 8xFSAA system see my sig

[generics_user]

Yeah sure, swapping cards to play 20 mins to an older game is nice...

afaik you can disable one gpu in the driver without restart (at least my 3870s do) to play older games, and ALL older games work with excellent framerates and high resolutions on a 4870 1gb

old game not supportet is one of the worst arguments i've ever hear because CF has been around for 3 years and i'm sure that they didn't drop CF support from any game they added in these 3 years...

BTW: even without support 95% of all old games run on CF enabled systems without IQ issues or perforrmance drops

[STaRGaZeR]

afaik you can disable one gpu in the driver without restart (at least my 3870s do) to play older games, and ALL older games work with excellent framerates and high resolutions on a 4870 1gb

old game not supportet is one of the worst arguments i've ever hear because CF has been around for 3 years and i'm sure that they didn't drop CF support from any game they added in these 3 years...

BTW: even without support 95% of all old games run on CF enabled systems without IQ issues or perforrmance drops

More like 50% but that's innacurate as you or me can't test all older games. And yes, you can use Catalyst AI to disable Crossfire if needed too. But what's the point of disabling one of the cores you've paid for? Even for old games I needed way more than a single 3870 with heavy AA. Now with the 4870 that need is almost non existent tho, but still there. I was talking about swapping cards, was that guy serious?

BTW Gears of War DX10 is fixed with lastest drivers? That wasn't an old game and perfomance was at best

[mascaras]

How come neither dx9 or dx10 are selected? I would like to see it with dx10. I thought you should be getting higher than 31FPS.

sory


new one

[Devil's Prophet]

But what's the point of disabling one of the cores you've paid for? Even for old games I needed way more than a single 3870 with heavy AA. Now with the 4870 that need is almost non existent tho, but still there.

What's the point of playing a DX7 or DX8 game with a DX10.1 card for which you paid good money?

You see, there are a lot of arguments on that matter. Would you think a GTX280 would be better at playing a 3 year old game? And for that matter I do not think a 3 year old game is old. But seriously, how should the HD4870 1GB be any problem with games that are a couple of years old? I'm not sure, but you stated that AA was the killer back when you had your HD3870. I'm sure you are aware of the fact that AA was the weak point of the HD3000 series, but is really the strong point of the HD4000 series. So that is that.

[STaRGaZeR]

What's the point of playing a DX7 or DX8 game with a DX10.1 card for which you paid good money?

You see, there are a lot of arguments on that matter. Would you think a GTX280 would be better at playing a 3 year old game? And for that matter I do not think a 3 year old game is old. But seriously, how should the HD4870 1GB be any problem with games that are a couple of years old? I'm not sure, but you stated that AA was the killer back when you had your HD3870. I'm sure you are aware of the fact that AA was the weak point of the HD3000 series, but is really the strong point of the HD4000 series. So that is that.

Who's talking about DX7 or DX8 games? Those are prehistoric, not old. Old is 1 or 2 years back

[Devil's Prophet]

Who's talking about DX7 or DX8 games? Those are prehistoric, not old. Old is 1 or 2 years back

What game(s) can you come up with that 1) have no (decent) CF support, and 2) won't run fluently on "only" an HD4870 1GB?

Also what about renaming the executable if you desperatly want to crossfire those games?

Last I would think civ2, monkey island 1 & 2 and stuff like that are prehistoric. Games with an engine that is accelerated by D3D I would consider just old.

But seriously though, I don't see the point in thinking a 2 year old game would suffer many problems trying to get it running crossfired.

[ust]

Hiya

Not quite sure if this is the right place for my problem but i've been following this thread, and in general the 4870X2 news quite thoroughly, and focus seems to be in here in this thread.

Well, I just recieved my 4870X2 by Club3d and now I can't get the card to "post" It doesn't show any screen what so ever.
I can see five little LED's light up when the system starts and the fan is also running - but no screen.
I tried to install my old 8800GTS 512 card and it had no problems it posted instantly.

I've tried to connect hardmounted cables AND modular cables from my PSU but for no good.

I'm desperate

Abit IX38 QuadGt newest official Bios
Corsair HX1000W


Thank you

[perkam]

Hiya

Not quite sure if this is the right place for my problem but i've been following this thread, and in general the 4870X2 news quite thoroughly, and focus seems to be in here in this thread.

Well, I just recieved my 4870X2 by Club3d and now I can't get the card to "post" It doesn't show any screen what so ever.
I can see five little LED's light up when the system starts and the fan is also running - but no screen.
I tried to install my old 8800GTS 512 card and it had no problems it posted instantly.

I've tried to connect hardmounted cables AND modular cables from my PSU but for no good.

I'm desperate

Abit IX38 QuadGt newest official Bios
Corsair HX1000W

Correct area for that is here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...splay.php?f=65

Perkam

[whocaresbg]

mascaras Can you run some loops from the batch file ?