Project: Queso - MM Ascension 3 WC Loops

[skinnee]

I will measure (assuming you want to know with the PSU position on the bottom opposite side of the mobo) for you. I did end up moving the PSU above the mobo, had to mount three pumps somewhere.

[Astratuner]

hey me again

Can you tell me how many meters of tubing needed in order to build it?

Also how long did you build on you system untill it booted?

Is it possible to upload some kind of movie so i can hear the noise it makes?

Thanks.

[Pellepel]

any updates?

[Astratuner]

if it's not a big trouble could you still photograph the screws used for attatching your rad to the case.


Thanks

[IanY]

So hey Skinnee {funny nickname.. you know what the Somalis were called by the Rangers, right? lol)

Did Ben of MM ever sell you the right length of wire for the power and reset buttons?

[skinnee]

if it's not a big trouble could you still photograph the screws used for attatching your rad to the case.


Thanks

I'll list off what I used and can probably snap a pic...sure.

So hey Skinnee {funny nickname.. you know what the Somalis were called by the Rangers, right? lol)

I'm as thin as a rail...have had the nickname for a long time. And, I don't think I know the answer to the rangers question.

Did Ben of MM ever sell you the right length of wire for the power and reset buttons?

Not to me...I had to extend the length, I really did expect a little more for the amount of money I spent on the case. None of my side or top panels really line up, the mobo tray PEM nuts are off. I'll be going Lian Li or Silverstone on future builds. But I will be keeping the Ascension as my main rig.

[IanY]

Not to me...I had to extend the length, I really did expect a little more for the amount of money I spent on the case. None of my side or top panels really line up, the mobo tray PEM nuts are off. I'll be going Lian Li or Silverstone on future builds. But I will be keeping the Ascension as my main rig.

Pick up the phone. Work the phone. I know I would.

When you say "the mobo PEM nuts are off," you are referring to the mobo tray, and that your mobo is not aligned properly? If so, did you force in your expensive video cards? Don't do that! Get it fixed.

As to the side panels and top panels, precision fits are kind of difficult, and I see that too on some Lian Lis (I have a lot of them, just no 343Bs). My two classic MMs fit flush. I had issues with my TJ07 as well, but its tiny nitpicking.

Like I said, pay your tribute to Alexander Graham Bell. Well oiled machines are silent, but the squeaky wheel on the supermarket cart gets heard throughout the large box store and gets the manager's attention!

I know I would scream my head off, even in this forum. I would post progressively louder and louder complains (hence PITA name) until everything gets fully resolved to my satisfaction.

I give retailers and manufacturers hell, regardless of who.

That power switch wire needs to be shipped to you 100% free. If it is the mobo tray that is misaligned it needs exchanging, and it should be cross shipped.

The US forces in Somalia called the locals, especially the enemy combatants, "Skinnies" largely for the same reasons you stated about your physique.

[Astratuner]

Hey when i look at your pics and i see your southbridge beeing watercooled, if you mount another 280GTX on your motherboard will it not be on top of the SB?

Cause SLI cards are packed close to each other not? Or is that only the case of you tri sli ?



In my dreams i wonder how you fixed those 2 front rads to the case

I've read something about rivets but you didn't use them right?

[skinnee]

Hey when i look at your pics and i see your southbridge beeing watercooled, if you mount another 280GTX on your motherboard will it not be on top of the SB?

I did the first time around, I am still debating on whether I'll put the SB under water or not. If I am going to run SLI, then I will definitely be putting the SB under water.

Cause SLI cards are packed close to each other not? Or is that only the case of you tri sli ?

Thats the case with Tri-SLI, the barbs on the SB just dont provide enoug room for even a single slot card to fit. If Eddy would maked the SB block a little longer, 6-8MM, that would provide enough room. I have yet to see if a DD block would do the trick or not.

In my dreams i wonder how you fixed those 2 front rads to the case

I used 6-32 x 1/2" Socket Head Cap screws to mount the rads to the front of the case, I also have a fan vibration damper (the cheap ones) in between the case and the rad, so 3/8" just wasn't quite enough. I used socket head cap screws everywhere, ranging from 3/8" all the way to 1.5".

I've read something about rivets but you didn't use them right?

I did not use rivet nuts, I have them sitting here along with a Rivet Nut setter, but I just couldn't do that to my rads, it wasn't needed with a 6-32 tap.

[Astratuner]

hey skinnee


thanks for helping me out again hehe.

But those screw look awfull long to me?

Or is the case + damping material + rad so tick that you needed such long ones?

[skinnee]

Thats not my pic...I snagged one off google image for "illustration purposes only" to show what I meant by socket head cap screws. I have no idea how long those are, but I do know they are not 6-32 either.

[Astratuner]

mkay sorry my bad


So they are 1,27 cm then ? ( 1/2" )



- And i've seen something else what makes my question in the head how you mounted the HD's in your 5.25" bays?

Mountain mod mounting tool or something like that?

- Also nice to see that you are using a rheobus extreme. You modded + sleeved the rad fans per 2 I guess??

So you have 4 pairs of wires then to connect to the fancontroller i presume
But my question here is what did you do with the cable of the last fan of a rad?

- And did you used up the last fancontroller plug to?


Thanks again Skinnee

[Mick64]

[QUOTE=skinnee;3122384]Yeah, just need another GTX280 and 2 FC blocks. Oh yeah, and a sugar-momma too.


I could do with a 'sugar-momma' any idea where I can get hold of one?

Nice work BTW!

[skinnee]

I could do with a 'sugar-momma' any idea where I can get hold of one?

I'm still looking, my wife isn't being very helpful in my search though.
I'll let you know if I run into a pack of them.

Nice work BTW!

ty!!

[skinnee]

mkay sorry my bad

No worries mate.

So they are 1,27 cm then ? ( 1/2" )

Correct, 1/2" = 1.27cm

- And i've seen something else what makes my question in the head how you mounted the HD's in your 5.25" bays?

Mountain mod mounting tool or something like that?

I used the Scythe Stabilizer mounting kit, though I didn't use the plates, just the anti-vibe screws with M3 5/8" (1.5875cm) screws to attach the anti-vibe mounts to the drive bay. I would link to the M3 screws, but I picked those up locally. This way I kept the MM drive bay cover up front but had enough room to mount the HDD's. For all of the other bay devices I used 3/8" (0.9525cm) or 1/4" (0.6325cm) flat socket head screws from Fastener Express

- Also nice to see that you are using a rheobus extreme. You modded + sleeved the rad fans per 2 I guess??

For the rads, I connected all three fans to one header, sleaved the entire length and heatshrinked where each set of fan wires connected. The top panel has two fans, I soldered the one set of fan wires into the second and extended the run.

So you have 4 pairs of wires then to connect to the fancontroller i presume

I actually have 5, one connecter for each radiator, the top panel, then one fan from the back panel. The other fan on the mobo trays connects to the mobo.

But my question here is what did you do with the cable of the last fan of a rad?

I have all three fans on the radiator connecting to one common header.

- And did you used up the last fancontroller plug to?

I have one open rheobus on the fan controller.

Thanks again Skinnee

No problem!

[Astratuner]

Mutch appriciated Skinnee

[mpower1001]

Nice build. I see you used Feser 1 uv dye, did you use any other additive?

[skinnee]

PT_nuke, I have not seen any ill effects. But I am currently down, mobo went back on RMA.

For all you MM owners, I strongly suggest lining the mobo tray with 1mm-2mm thick neoprene. The shorter mobo standoffs and backplates (CPU, NB, SB and Mosfets) are not a good situation.

[Anemone]

For all you MM owners, I strongly suggest lining the mobo tray with 1mm-2mm thick neoprene. The shorter mobo standoffs and backplates (CPU, NB, SB and Mosfets) are not a good situation.

That doesn't sound good. I'll keep an eye on that when I mount. I'm a bit leery of the neoprene because even the tiny bit of air running under there helps and the neoprene would act as a thermal insulator as well as an electrical one. But heat would be better than a short.

Wonder if Ben needs to have a look into modifying the mobo tray

[skinnee]

That doesn't sound good. I'll keep an eye on that when I mount.

Keep an eye on it, its extremely close for the spots I could see. I was using backplates on my NB and SB, couldn't see if those were touching or not.

I'm a bit leery of the neoprene because even the tiny bit of air running under there helps and the neoprene would act as a thermal insulator as well as an electrical one. But heat would be better than a short.

Thats why I suggest a very thing layer (1mm-2mm) or some clear mylar just under the backplates...just to be sure.

[Big_Daddy]

Well, I haven't had any problems with it touching. And even if the backplates did touch, it shouldn't cause a problem. Maybe a thin layer on the backplate itself?

[skinnee]

Definitely wouldn't hurt.

Next time you have your mobo tray in a spot you can check take a look and let me know what you see.

[Anemone]

Black vinyl (or wide electrical) tape in the few spots would be invisible under the mobo and would likely insure against any issues providing poky parts weren't sticking through the tape.

[IanY]

For MMs, you should use $100 bills as insulation material ? LOL

[skinnee]

For MMs, you should use $100 bills as insulation material ? LOL

I've been thinking about it more...$100 bills just seems a little low class for an MM.

I was thinking Panda fur, that way it somewhat matches the anodizing.