Nehalem-EP......BLOOMFIELD

[LIKMARK]

? Not sure if you were replying to me or not.

A thread doesn't mean anything, because the 8 threads in Nehalem don't cost you anything. Quad core Nehalem is fully comparable to Quad core Barcelona. DP Gainestown (8 cores) is fully comparable to DP Barcelona (8 cores).

According to boinc cpu test, ht seems to cost some performance.

Kind of weird why you compare the Bloomfield(High End Desktop, nearly WS) with your AMD Server ...

Yeap, you're right : thread is a thread, but need to differentiate a Physical Core and Logical Core, there're not the same

Asus L1N64WS/B is a WS board

So...because Nehalem supports SMT. You quickly say AMD is better because 2 Quadcores can compete with 1 quadcore?

Try 2 quads vs 2 quads. Or try see what a Bloomsfield cost vs those 2 2000 series Barcelonas.

1 Nehalem Quad@2.93Ghz beats 2 Barcelona Quads@2.4Ghz in Cinebench.
Not even to talk about Barcelona uses 64bit and Nehalem 32bit. (Nehalem would perform some 10% better with 64bit)
1 CPU vs 2 CPUs. 500$ vs 1500$

Or use the Gainestown with SMT disabled. About 50% faster than the dual Barcelonas at the same 2.4Ghz.

Actually those cpus cost me 100USD each, not 1500USD

Of course Gainstown is faster, as it should be, it's just that I don't think it is fast enough to recieve all the "omg wtf bbq" remarks and no critical approach to the numbers provided. That's the reason I compared in the first place.

Cinebench is a 3D rendering benchmark. So it is a good benchmark of how well these CPUs will perform with rendering. And I wouldn't say it favors Intel hardware at all. K8 actually isn't too far behind Conroe in Cinebench. Unfortunately K10 does very little to improve performance in Cinebench beyond adding more cores.

To me one of the most exciting things will be that a quad-core Nehalem overclocked to 4.0GHz will roughly equal the performance of 16 Barcelona cores @ 2.3GHz in Cinebench.... 4x Opteron 8356 is currently a $6,000 setup. A 4GHz Nehalem might be possible out of a $284 CPU.... and certainly the $999 XE part. Obviously you can't overclock a CPU when you are doing critical work, but the power that is going to be available to enthusiasts with Nehalem is quite amazing.

Guys.. Lets compare prices when they're out, and then the whole systems...

I wouldn't trust Anand with anything hardware or software related .But i do believe Nehalem improves over C2 in 3DS.

LOL +1

B'cause SPI is the most popular test, Yeah for now Intel is leading on SPI, but what about the past, before C2D ( AMD clearly owned this test, right ?)

You mean MaxPI Multicore PI calc ? Never heard of it, so this is not strange if you don't see anyone using these ...

So @LIKMARK , this is saying that everyone is waiting for your Barcelona to show some MaxPI expression

I'll check it out, just don't have time atm.