Quote Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR View Post
Well, The results speak for themselves. Also I don't know why are you comparing 8 cores vs 4 cores, even if Nehalem has 2 threads per core. The fair comparison is between Gainstown vs your dual Barcelonas. I'm not impressed with Nehalem single threaded perfomance because Core2 is already a monster there and this is only a little improvement, but in multi-threaded apps Nehalem destroys Phenom and Core2. I'd like to see how Shangai performs, but even if it ends 10% faster clock per clock than Barcelona it'd be still slower than a Yorkfield in most cases. In a server environment maybe they'll shine, but not in desktop.
I wondered how HT on nehalem performed, therefore I compared with my logical 8 threads system.

Quote Originally Posted by bowman View Post
He doesn't mean performance, he means price. You can't compare two CPUs to one CPU because the price difference between a UP platform vs. a DP platform, Nehalem or not, is massive.
I'm quite sure nehalem will cost more than my setup when it's out..

Quote Originally Posted by Extelleron View Post
Pretty sure he got them on eBay. Pre-B3 Barcelonas are being dumped on eBay at pretty attractive prices. You can easily get an Opteron 2347 or 2344 HE for $100.

Heck looking now you can also buy 4x Opteron 8346 for $150 each. That would make a pretty interesting setup.
Got it in one After all I am not mad either, I would under no circumstances dump up to 800USD on two 2347's today..

Quote Originally Posted by Donnie27 View Post
Nehalem will Rock because Core 2 Q already is.

Of course it wouldn't matter to AMD fans. It is only valid if the software or app favors AMD.

The only good reviewers are those who cripple the competition to make AMD look better. You know, these same folks who acted like they were Vampires and Optimized SSE software was a Cross or Garlic. I'm talking about off the shelf on the market software. Even if the software isn't on the market or readily available, nothing would change AMD fans view. "Just Win Baby". Doesn't matter if it is 4 vs 2 or the cost of 4 vs two, just win baby!

I do wonder where the mods who monitor thread crapping are? 6 weeks!
Look up post number 804 - 807 and compare constructivness to your post, and we can discuss threadcrapping. How much time did it take you to write your post?
Three sec's I assume: One: copy BS post from some AMD thread you have threadcrapped, two: paste into this one, three: "submit reply".

Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
Can we assume that nehalem is an improvement over the yorkfields/harpertowns no matter what percentage it is?
If we assume that, then you pick a series of 3-4 benchmarks and you run with your AMD setup and I'll run with my "slower than Nehalem" Harpertown setup and we'll look at the results.
I am on air cooling and at 3404mhz so not "Xtreme" by anyones definition.
Fair enough?
Excuse me I do not understand your intent with this post. As I answered STaRGaZeR, I wondered how HT on nehalem performed, therefore I compared with my logical 8 threads system. I do not want a "showdown" with you. It was my intent to show something to compare nehalem with. This obviously is not something anyone here want to be done, so I'll remove them at once.

Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
The tears is like ambrosia. Is this another "Core 2 is fake, Intel is using X2s" etc whine again like in 2006? Core 2 spanks K10 hard, Nehalem utterly destroys it. And thats not gonna change a single bit, not with 45nm K10s either. It seems some people are starting to sue every possible excuse. Now also compared 2 K10 quads vs 1 Nehalem quad to win some space with justifying its 8 threads vs 8 threads. Its pathetic and fanboysim beyond reason.

But again, 2009 will be a whole other game. And there will be the number 11 in it, but no K in front of it.
Please scroll up to my answer to Donnie27s post. The same applies for you.