"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[aussie-revhead]

Leave the NB GTL @ AUTO, but I couldn't get stability no matter what I tried with the CPU GTL's @ AUTO, so definitely give them some values. Mine found 24/7 stability around 0.67 .. cores 1/3 needed to be @ 0.675, cores 0/2 needed 0.670 ... now it's fulltime stable.

Also, check that vCore. 1.45v - way too high IMO! I'm @ 1.3625v for 3.8Ghz 24/7 Stable (On air).

Thanks mate , its high until I sort this out then I will try for min volts at 4ghz .

I found something interesting and I hope someone can explain this to me. After struggling for a few days since install to get my rig stable at 4Ghz+ I tried different ram and its stable now with no other changes. I was using ballistix 6400 at stock speed and fsb at 400 thanks to qx's unlocked multi , at 3600 its prime stable for as long as you want to run it , bump the multi from 9x to 10x and this issue starts . Now with fsb/ram speeds the same shouldnt stability etc be the same ? Before swapping the rams I memtested the ballistix overnight and passed 17 passes, so can you have a ram compatibility issue only at high cpu clocks ? With 6400 Teams in it now its primed for 6hrs. How does ram cause this if its not showing any other problems ?

What setting in bios is it that allows me to reduce vcore ?

[aussie-revhead]

Big Joe could you please add a biostemplate to the op ?

Leeghoofd and fellow enthusiasts , these are my current settings:

AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
FSB Frequency: 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge: auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: auto
DRAM Timing Control: auto (5-5-5-18)

1st Information :
CAS# Latency: auto
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: auto
DRAM RAS# Precharge: auto
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: auto
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time: auto
Write Recovery Time: auto
Read to Precharge Time: auto

2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): auto
Write to Read Delay (S): auto
WRITE to READ Delay (D): auto
READ to READ Delay (S): auto
READ to READ Delay (D): auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): auto
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): auto

3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: auto
READ to PRE Delay: auto
PRE to PRE Delay: auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay: auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
DRAM Read Training: auto
MEM. OC Charger: auto
AI Clock Twister: auto
AI Transaction Booster: manual
Common Performance Level [13]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.45
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.65x
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.65x
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.0
NB Voltage: 1.2
NB GTL Reference: auto
SBridge Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled
CPU Clock Skew : normal
NB Clock Skew : normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 10
CPU VID: default
C1E Suppport: disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: enabled
Vanderpool Technology: disabled
CPU TM Function: disabled
Execute Disable Bit: disabled

Northbridge Chipset Config
Memory Remap - disabled

Bios version 704

After priming for 6 hrs I AI-tuned fsb up to 410 but the same dodgey core failed within seconds. I am now priming again with the above settings but vcore dropped to 1.425. If its good at that I will keep dropping it until its unstable again. I want to do a 3D06 run at 4500 too , try to crack 25k .

Also , as mentioned above , which temp monitoring program do I believe ? Do you guys use OCCT for the graphing feature ? Or some other reason ?

[aussie-revhead]

Nup , core3 failed again at 1.425v .

[LUCI5R]

Ave,

Two Questions, if anyone cares to explain...

#1: Does this Six Engine software interfere with Overclocking at all? Mine is automatically set to "High Performance" .. I have other options as well - but I don't know if it has anything to do with Overclocking or not.

#2: FSB Strap to North Bridge, Some folks here have it set to 333 and some have it set to 400 ... I have it at 400. Why the difference? How do you determine what you need to set it at?

Thanks!!

[Cob]

Nup , core3 failed again at 1.425v .

Tweak its GTL.

[Cob]

Ave,

Two Questions, if anyone cares to explain...

#1: Does this Six Engine software interfere with Overclocking at all? Mine is automatically set to "High Performance" .. I have other options as well - but I don't know if it has anything to do with Overclocking or not.

#2: FSB Strap to North Bridge, Some folks here have it set to 333 and some have it set to 400 ... I have it at 400. Why the difference? How do you determine what you need to set it at?

Thanks!!

#1 - I've never used it.

#2 - I've mine set to 333 @ 488x8 and 1:1. At that speed there is next to no difference between 333 and 400 when running 1:1. But if I wasn't running 1:1 then both settings would give me different memory ratios, and thus I would choose the strap that allowed me to set the memory speed that I wanted.

[aussie-revhead]

Tweak its GTL.

OK is that these two settings ? Higher multi increases voltage ? Would these be numbered the same as they occur in Prime ? 0-1-2-3 ?

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.65x
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.65x

[aussie-revhead]

Ave,

Two Questions, if anyone cares to explain...

#1: Does this Six Engine software interfere with Overclocking at all? Mine is automatically set to "High Performance" .. I have other options as well - but I don't know if it has anything to do with Overclocking or not.

#2: FSB Strap to North Bridge, Some folks here have it set to 333 and some have it set to 400 ... I have it at 400. Why the difference? How do you determine what you need to set it at?

Thanks!!

1. I wondered this also , in case its causing some of my problems

2. My rig wont run at 400 strap , so I leave it on auto , but 333 might be better.

[SirKeldon]

I wish the P5Q Pro also could have the TWO GTL refs for the CPU and also it would be great to have the NB GTL Ref, it will be just nice for stability too (even on duals) ... i had those settings on the DFI DK X38-T2R (not UT or LT, so the "cheap" model, as the P5Q Pro) and it helped too much when achieving high clocks ... would it be too hard to implement it?

[truehighroller]

Ok this is what I have so far. I have been able to drop my CPU voltage alot. I am on air here no water. I lapped it last night to, now that I know I have a good one.

[Cob]

Nice one

[truehighroller]

I didn't change one of them to the motherboard though, lmao. I need some coffee.

[Cob]

OK is that these two settings ? Higher multi increases voltage ? Would these be numbered the same as they occur in Prime ? 0-1-2-3 ?

Yip those are the settings. But tbh with you I haven't got a clue if they're numbered the same as in Prime.

But it usually becomes pretty obvious pretty quickly if you have the changed the wrong one. Tho, saying that, setting the GTL's up perfectly is an extremely long and boring process. It took the best part of 3 days for me to get them and the NB GTL perfect for my 8hr Prime95 4ghz run. OCCT is damn handy for testing out each setting as it fails pretty quickly if the setting is far from perfect.

[Darkman Returns]

Phew... Took me a LONG while reading through all the posts in this thread...

...Meanwhile some more PC:banana::banana::banana::banana: of what's coming in this week:



News and testing as soon as i assemble everything.

You were not kidding about the images; that looks amazing.

The blocks all look like EK to me. Could you clarify which ASUS ones fit this board for the NB, SB and mosfets as I'm very very tempted to rip the heatsinks off and watercool the lot.

It looks like EK-NB/SB 5 on the NorthBridge, EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a on the Mosfets and EK-NB/SB ASUS 1 on the SouthBridge to me.

D

[NaMcO]

Ok this is what I have so far. I have been able to drop my CPU voltage alot. I am on air here no water. I lapped it last night to, now that I know I have a good one.

Any chance of posting your BIOS settings here using that template shown on previous pages? I came from a 680i nVidia motherboard (had this E8400 @ 4.05 Ghz completely stable) and now i'm having some difficulties attaining the same speed. Either SuperPI fails or OCCT locks the system and i can't figure out where the issue is.

Guess i have to play a bit with the GTL settings too.

[truehighroller]

Yip those are the settings. But tbh with you I haven't got a clue if they're numbered the same as in Prime.

But it usually becomes pretty obvious pretty quickly if you have the changed the wrong one. Tho, saying that, setting the GTL's up perfectly is an extremely long and boring process. It took the best part of 3 days for me to get them and the NB GTL perfect for my 8hr Prime95 4ghz run. OCCT is damn handy for testing out each setting as it fails pretty quickly if the setting is far from perfect.

I think I can bump this up to maybe 485 with these settings. After that it becomes very unstable and that is prob where I need to do that but, Im happy with this.

[truehighroller]

AI Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: auto
DRAM Timing Control: manual

1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: 5
Read to Precharge Time: 3

2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 7
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 6

3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: 14
READ to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: auto
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Stronger
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level 8
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: Enabled

CPU Voltage: 1.25xx
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.640
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 2.02 actual is 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.28
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60

Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : normal
NB Clock Skew : normal

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: disabled
Execute Disable Bit: disabled

Bios version 0704
Q9450

[NaMcO]

Thanks a lot. CPUs are different but might help as i'm running BIOS 0704 as well.

[rmanuelb]

Hi...

Seems GTL Refs are important and I've never gave them much attention.

Maybe that's why I can't stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3.8GHz.

What would be the values for a Q6600 for :

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2):
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3):

Thanks in advance and Regards

[NBF]

Hi guys,
I've a problem with p5q deluxe under phase
if i set a cpu voltage over 1,7000 the system crash during windows loading, also at 3000mhz
I can't bench seriously

BenchZowner gave a tip that worked for me

If you're talking about a "CPU Voltage Warning" ( don't remember the exact phrase ) then all you need to do is press F1 to continue.
And maybe next time you enter the BIOS go to the Hardware Monitoring section and set the CPU Voltage indicator to "Ignored" to stop this message from appearing.

It was looping the warning in my board, but seting CPU Voltage to "ignored" solved! Now I can boot as high as I want

[Cob]

Hi...

Seems GTL Refs are important and I've never gave them much attention.

Maybe that's why I can't stable my Q6600 G0 @ 3.8GHz.

What would be the values for a Q6600 for :

CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2):
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3):

Thanks in advance and Regards

I didn't find them to be important with the Q6600. Leaving them on auto or 0.67 did the job, even at 500x8.

[rmanuelb]

I didn't find them to be important with the Q6600. Leaving them on auto or 0.67 did the job, even at 500x8.

Thanks I'll give it a try

Regards

[SirKeldon]

My E8400 refuses to run stable at 500x8, wish them to include all the GTL options also on the Pro

[LUCI5R]

OK is that these two settings ? Higher multi increases voltage ? Would these be numbered the same as they occur in Prime ? 0-1-2-3 ?

Yup, those are the two settings.

I couldn't state it as a technical fact, but in my personal experience tweaking the GTL's, it appears that they are indeed numbered the same as Prime5. So if you're having trouble with Core 3, it would be the (0/2) as you pointed out.

Quite interestingly, I myself had the biggest stability issue with Core 3 which kept failing on me, and finally resolved @ 0.675 (the other one is @ 0.670).

I didn't find total stability until I started tweaking with the GTL's, and for that I have Cob to thank in totality.

[truehighroller]

Mine are set to .63 and .64. I had to give the extra for cores 3 and 4.