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    Quote Originally Posted by blindfitter View Post
    Gmcg,
    Could you put up all the setting of memory, the ones when getting 2000mhz @ 2v
    have almost the same setup as you, and would like to try them out,
    thank you
    I've got that result while beta-testing 790i, it is attached. There is nothing to be proud of though, such as those results suck (BIOS P03 without P1 and P2).

    I haven't tried 2000Mhz on Foxconn yet, I prefer linked mode and without water-cooling of NB can't get FSB high enough. As soon as I will receive my NB WC stuff, then I will do it, of course.

    Quote Originally Posted by Telo View Post
    I can do 8-7-6-16-1T @ 2000Mhz if I bump the voltage as much as you. Go ahead and try 8-7-6-16-1T on your Dominators.

    PS: Dominators $459.00 [Newegg] - $40 MIR; Cellshock $363.44 [MemoryC] $392 including next day delivery. Even with the option for next day delivery and the rebate you can get for the Dominators, CellShock still cheaper; and to me a better option.
    I don't want to argue which memory kit is better, may be Cellshock. IMO there are two memory sets on the market, which can satisfy/used by extreme overclockers, and those are Cellshock DDR3-1866 blue and Corsair Dominator DDR3-1800C7, period.
    Those are so close in results, someone needs to perform serious tests with statistical evaluation to find out which set is definitely better.

    8-7-6-16 IMO is an incorrect setting, such as:
    "the general rule of thumb is to set a tRAS equal to your CAS + tRCD + 2 (or higher). that way you're not corrupting data in memory by only partially reading/writing it" it means min for 8+7=15+2=17, I think it makes sense at 2000MHz ...

    Actually I have purchased the Dominator kit seeng 3oh6's result (also attached) and I never regret about it, this set replaced Corsair Ballistix DDR3-2000 set, which was worse.
    I got it from ZipZoomfly, it is like $400 with mail rebate, and at the time I got it it was impossible to find Cellshock DDR3-1866 anywhere.

    BTW 2.0V voltage is not a "bump", it is in the specification for Corsair kit, 7-7-7-20@1800MHz@2V.
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    Last edited by gmcg; 06-27-2008 at 06:48 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcg View Post
    8-7-6-16 IMO is an incorrect setting, such as:
    "the general rule of thumb is to set a tRAS equal to your CAS + tRCD + 2 (or higher). that way you're not corrupting data in memory by only partially reading/writing it" it means min for 8+7=15+2=17, I think it makes sense at 2000MHz ...
    Funny how you don't want to argue, yet you basically said that I lied to him. Whether the equation gives better result or not, I'm not here to evaluate it. All I know is, CellShocks are rated for 8-8-8-16-1T at 1866Mhz, and I took those same settings to 2000Mhz. I might have expressed my thoughts incorrectly, meaning that what I meant to say was that you can't take the Dominator setting for 1800Mhz [7-7-7-20] and use them at 2000Mhz like I was able to do with the CellShocks. Granted Dominators are 1800 and the CellShocks are 1866, but the rating that CellShock gives to their RAM [stated by them directly] is a relaxed setting to ensure that you will get that result by just dialing it it, and they know of people running this RAM at 7-7-7 1866Mhz due to the large headroom the leave for people to overclock their RAM.

    Now, with that in mind and the fact that eRetailers wanted about $499 for the Dominators and MemoryC just wanted $391 for the CellShock, was too easy of a decision to make when I bought them. Which is why I recommended it.
    Last edited by Telo; 06-28-2008 at 05:15 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Telo View Post
    Funny how you don't want to argue, yet you basically said that I lied to him.
    No, I didn't say that you lied to him, I said the information provided to him is not true. The meaning is different, to lie means to provide false information intentionally, but false information could be also provided by mistake, we all make mistakes. I would never jump on conclusion that you lied, simply because I don't have any intention to abuse you. I take it as a mistake of course.

    Whether the equation gives better result or not, I'm not here to evaluate it. All I know is, CellShocks are rated for 8-8-8-16-1T at 1866Mhz, and I took those same settings to 2000Mhz. I might have expressed my thoughts incorrectly, meaning that what I meant to say was that you can't take the Dominator setting for 1800Mhz [7-7-7-20] and use them at 2000Mhz like I was able to do with the CellShocks.
    OK, now your statement is clear. There is nothing to argue about, I don't know any memory set which can do CAS 7 at 2000 MHz at 2V, period. Dominator set can do the same 8-8-8-16-1T at 2000MHz at 2V of course, if it can do 8-7-6-18-1T@2000MHz@2V.

    Granted Dominators are 1800 and the CellShocks are 1866, but the rating that CellShock gives to their RAM [stated by them directly] is a relaxed setting to ensure that you will get that result by just dialing it it, and they know of people running this RAM at 7-7-7 1866Mhz due to the large headroom the leave for people to overclock their RAM.
    1866 with 8 CAS is a weaker setting than 1800 with 7CAS, everyone knows it. But we evaluate RAM not according to the specification, we all want real performance. We can run both kits at 1866 with 7 CAS, but no way at 2000 with 7 CAS.

    Now, with that in mind and the fact that eRetailers wanted about $499 for the Dominators and MemoryC just wanted $391 for the CellShock, was too easy of a decision to make when I bought them. Which is why I recommended it.
    I would do the same in such circumstances
    But such as Zipzoomfly offers Dominators for $409 (with mail-in-rebate) and set of Dominators include also pretty useful cooler, which costs separately $20, I would say there is more or less an equal choice.

    BTW I run this cooler with Scythe "KAZE MASTER" 5.25" Bay Fan Controller monitoring temp on memory heat sink and RPM on the cooler, it is pretty useful for me personally to make the rig almost silent. The average RPM is around 2200 while the temp is below 32C (OC), comparing to the stock ~5000.
    Last edited by gmcg; 06-28-2008 at 08:49 AM.
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    Update

    the raid is now repaired but i get a blue screen when i click on anything

    i think i might be missing one or two settings

    telo can you list all the voltage settings you were using for 9 x 475 memory 1900

    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by flanr View Post
    the raid is now repaired but i get a blue screen when i click on anything

    i think i might be missing one or two settings

    telo can you list all the voltage settings you were using for 9 x 475 memory 1900

    thanks
    flanr
    I posted them all in that long list of settings you quoted on your last post . There is literally no reason why you and I, having the same board, RAM and CPU cannot use nearly identical settings. I know every board, CPU, RAM is different, but we should be able to get some close settings. I'm on the road at the moment [ain't Blackberry great? ], but I should be back home tonight; PM me with the times you usually mess with your PC, and I will see if we can hook up and tackle this crap. I know that you in Ireland and I'm in USA, but there is bound to be a time we both can get online and tinker with the settings.
    Last edited by Telo; 06-28-2008 at 08:11 PM.


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