ATI HD4800 Review Thread

[ceevee]

That was a phase run at 4800Mhz, QX9770 with 172Mhz more on the shaders and 146Mhz on the ram. How the hell are those lower clocks? Dude, seriously, think before you post such BS and claiming their results were "fixed".

Post the full picture also, why did you cut out the CPUZ window eh?

Please, feel free to post a score from 4870CF that is competitive...

Go on...

We are waiting...

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[AriciU]

You'll find competitive scores in the Xtreme 3dMark section in the next couple of weeks.

[eleeter]

We are waiting...

...for you to make your own thread, and stop crapping in this one. Give it a rest already, every single person acknowledges the GTX280 is the performance king, your self esteem is safe and in tact.

Now let the rest of us discuss the 4870, thanks.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Please, feel free to post a score from 4870CF that is competitive...

Go on...

We are waiting...

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umm yeah, how about you post a score like that??? oh wait your running a 700$ nvidia card on an intel mobo when you could be running 4870 CF to beat your card easily and cheaper. please stop with your crap, you didn't even respond to the fact that nvida's IQ is bad and your "fast" card is indeed faster yet displaying a MUCh lower quality image. just look at the bricks in those screens at anand every single nvidia mode doesnt even have that highlights and texture detail that the 770 produces.


face it you made a poor purchase and you just have live with that dont suffocate us with you GT200 is god bull



EDIT; sorry to feed the fire, but this guy just needs to be told whats up even if he doesnt aknowledge it because any lurkers on the thread are going to be mislead by his manipulative posting style (cmon comparing a phase run to a regular run on a benchmark that already favors nvidia heavily for the sole reason that nvidia paid more to have it that way)

[bill_d]

oh well is see the nvidia PR department is still going on here ,and on,and no

[ceevee]

umm yeah, how about you post a score like that??? oh wait your running a 700$ nvidia card on an intel mobo when you could be running 4870 CF to beat your card easily and cheaper. please stop with your crap, you didn't even respond to the fact that nvida's IQ is bad and your "fast" card is indeed faster yet displaying a MUCh lower quality image. just look at the bricks in those screens at anand every single nvidia mode doesnt even have that highlights and texture detail that the 770 produces.


face it you made a poor purchase and you just have live with that dont suffocate us with you GT200 is god bull

Actually my ASUS Stiker II EXTREME and additional MSI 650Mhz GTX280s arrive via UPS today.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Actually my ASUS Stiker II EXTREME and additional MSI 650Mhz GTX280s arrive via UPS today.

so IQ is no concern to you, your just gonna sit and run vantage all day????"

[AriciU]

Actually my ASUS Stiker II EXTREME

Good luck with that one!

[Mortal]

no one here is saying 4870 is faster than GTX280

I think that's being deliberately ignored.

My 4870 will arrive tomorrow, yay! Been an nVidia user my whole life, now its time to taste some ATIness.

[zanzabar]

So Ageia makes up for the difference between X6000 and x15310 LOL? Good luck with that idea.

considering that it should more than doubles the cpu physics test that dose make a huge diffrence, and your numbers are flawed your comparing stock and 3.6ghz runs to a 4.5ghz with ln2 or phase on everything

and did u look at this
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=11

it shows that at max NV is the about IQ as ati with 4x msaa, and its missing texture shading


also buying a striker 2 extreme just shows your ignorance, for 24/7 buying a board that need and extreme edition cpu since the fsb is limmited

[JohnZS]

This is a great review. Thanks for focusing on minimum fps. All reviews should do this.

On a separate note, the idle power consumption of the 4870 is a little worrying. Hopefully a driver fix can drop the ~40W extra it seems to be using over competing cards.

Min and MAX FPS

Very good review, shows that I am best to wait for the 1GB version as despite what some might say..512MB of VRAM does not cut it.
I like the page where you see a minimum of 0.8 FPS on the HD4850 1.9 FPS on the Crossfire HD4870 vs a minimum of 7.1FPS on the 896MB GX260 to me that smacks of lack of VRAM.
John

[Philip_J_Fry]

@zanzabar

yeah legit has an article on that as well... i mean its out there

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/733/1/

[ceevee]

also buying a striker 2 extreme just shows your ignorance, for 24/7 buying a board that need and extreme edition cpu since the fsb is limmited

Could you rewrite this sentence because the grammar is so bad I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Why should I care about FSB when I have a QX9770?

[Hornet331]

also buying a striker 2 extreme just shows your ignorance, for 24/7 buying a board that need and extreme edition cpu since the fsb is limmited

most 45nm quads have a wall at 470-500mhz anyway (even on X38/48).

[Clairvoyant129]

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/14..._af/index.html

Look here Ceevee, Tri Crossfire HD4870s outperform Tri-SLI GTX 280! Not to mention those GTX 280s are overclocked! LOL.

Also the vantage pic you posted, it was on an overclocked quad core @ 4.8GHz + overclocked GTX 280s vs STOCK HD4870s. Nice comparison, moron

Once AMD releases HD4870 X2, it will outperform the GTX 280 for $150 cheaper LOL.

[Clairvoyant129]

Could you rewrite this sentence because the grammar is so bad I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Why should I care about FSB when I have a QX9770?

Yea good luck overclocking your quad with just multipliers... I could imagine, 333quad pumped FSB at 14x multi = bottlenecked quad core.

[Hornet331]

Once AMD releases HD4870 X2, it will outperform the GTX 280 for $150 cheaper LOL.

who says ati wont raise the prices, now that they know that the 4870 can competent with the 280gtx, and X2 will be faste then a 280gtx, there is no reason to sell it cheaper then a 280gtx.

I dont think any company is that nice to give away performance for free.

[ceevee]

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/14..._af/index.html

Nice comparison, moron

Once AMD releases HD4870 X2, it will outperform the GTX 280 for $150 cheaper LOL.

The name calling and vitriol in this thread is unbelievable. Really, really nasty people on XS now, wasn't like that when I joined.

Anyway the main difference between triSLI and 3xCrossfire is that one of them almost always works and the other usually performs worse than a single card. Yeah thats a good value for your money.

[Hornet331]

Yea good luck overclocking your quad with just multipliers... I could imagine, 333quad pumped FSB at 14x multi = bottlenecked quad core.

good thing that a 790i can hit 420-430 without any effort.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

The name calling and vitriol in this thread is unbelievable. Really, really nasty people on XS now, wasn't like that when I joined.

Anyway the main difference between triSLI and 3xCrossfire is that one of them almost always works and the other usually performs worse than a single card. Yeah thats a good value for your money.

good thing they only tested 3 games, if they had done more the tri 4870 may have beat the 280, we wouldn't want that would we XD

(fyi it wins in UT3 so i wouldn't really say that CFX is losing all the time its more that the review was incomplete and really not reliable whatsoever)

[Clairvoyant129]

The name calling and vitriol in this thread is unbelievable. Really, really nasty people on XS now, wasn't like that when I joined.

Originally Posted by ceevee
WTF is this idiot talking about???

What complete and utter bull. What part of middle school math was too hard for you?

By the way, RV770 destroys GT200 in terms of image quality. No wonder why my games look like **** on my G80s.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=11

And like other people have mentioned, give AMD time to release new drivers, which will fix most of the CF scaling problems. In a few weeks, you'll see RV770s in CF scaling much better than the power hogging, inefficent GT200s in SLI.

[MpG]

Yea good luck overclocking your quad with just multipliers... I could imagine, 333quad pumped FSB at 14x multi = bottlenecked quad core.

For the record, the QX9770 is specced for 400FSB to begin with. Also, you might be surprised at how little a 400FSB will bottleneck a single Quad-core processor, even at the 4.0GHz mark. I remember back when the QX6800 first came out, and people were wondering about the 266FSB being an issue.

[ceevee]

good thing that a 790i can hit 420-430 without any effort.

I only want a 4.2Ghz clock. This will be a gaming/encoding rig not a benching rig.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

By the way, RV770 destroys GT200 in terms of image quality. No wonder why my games look like **** on my G80s.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=11

And like other people have mentioned, give AMD time to release new drivers, which will fix most of the CF scaling problems. In a few weeks, you'll see RV770s in CF scaling much better than the power hogging, inefficent GT200s in SLI.

its funny how 3 different people have linked the IQ test to ceevee and he STILL refuses to acknowledge that the rv770 has significantly better Image QUALITY than the gt200 or any nvidia card for that matter (dont get confused ceevee its QUALITY not QUANTITY)

[Hornet331]

And like other people have mentioned, give AMD time to release new drivers, which will fix most of the CF scaling problems. In a few weeks, you'll see RV770s in CF scaling much better than the power hogging, inefficent GT200s in SLI.

maybe, but waiting for CFX profiels will be a pain, especial when it takes months for them to come to enjoy your games.
Thats the strengh of NV that they deliver the SLI profiles faster + you can make your own if its really necessary.

Also i would not call the 4870 a power saver either.