Foxconn Quantum Force Black Ops X48 OC Guide (56k Warning)

[Planet]

Good to hear GMGC. Good to see the rest of you guys have most of the errors taken care of. Foxconn does care about there customers no board is perfect bios wise and thats why they are always updating. I know Shamino and his team was working hard on getting these issues resolved.

[FuriousSalesman]

By furioussalesman


Is this good? Is it bad? I was trying to get my Cell Shock 15000 blue to 2000mhz 8-8-8-24 1T PL8 to no avail. I got a lot of system service exemption bsods, Irql not equal, memory management. I checked memory benchmarks when I could at 2000, but the scores were terrible compared to other people. I lowered my clocks and tried to tighten my timings. This is what I could do tonight. If anyone has advice, I would like to have it.

I really love the PO4 bios.

edit: Memset is wrong on the frequency. I think it is more like 690mhz. editii. I think some of my crashes could be attributed to Vista "ready boost". Right now that is just a theory.

[saaya]

dont know what you mean about bad perf, those everest results look eally good to me?
no idea about pi tho...

im playing with the blackops as well now, so i should be able to drop you some hints
atm this is all new to me tho, and it takes a bit to get used to the way the settings are arranged on this board.

[StellaNor]

Trying G25-BIOS now and performs way better. With CR2 bandwidth of possible good memory-modules is growing ;-)
No finetuning, no tweaking, no nothing - just plain memory into the slots and run it.
Here is a 1.000 MHz Result with G25-Bios and Compustocx CSX Diablo03-2000:

D9JNL 2.044 Volt Bios (1,980 with DMM)


and 940 MHz Result with Mushkin XP3-14400:

D9JNM 1.955 BIOS (1,930 with DMM)

[FuriousSalesman]

dont know what you mean about bad perf, those everest results look eally good to me?
no idea about pi tho...

im playing with the blackops as well now, so i should be able to drop you some hints
atm this is all new to me tho, and it takes a bit to get used to the way the settings are arranged on this board.

Oh no, the bad perf was at 8-8-8-24 @ 2000. I couldn't get more than 10,000 on the first row.

but, I jumped the gun. This wasn't as stable as I hoped.

[Telo]

Stupid question... I set the RAM divider to 1:4 400FSB while running the CPU at 8x 400FSB and when I get into windows and bring up CPU-Z and Aegis pannel, they both tell me the RAM has been set to 1:2... So my question is this, does this happen to any of you as well?

[Telo]

BTW, just like CeeVee, I have decided to keep the board. I will, however, send it back for a replacement since I believe there is something wrong. I will stick around with the BlackOps platform just not this particular speciment I have.

PS: Has anyone tried using 2x 2GB kits of CellShock on this board at 450FSB+? If you have please let me know because I REALLY would like to run my PC with 4GBs and the CellShock seems to be running perfectly at the moment. Once I trade my Q9450 for an E8500, I'm interested on getting it running at 500FSB+ with a lower multiplier [so that I can run the CellShocks at 2000Mhz or so].

[LardArse]

BTW, just like CeeVee, I have decided to keep the board. I will, however, send it back for a replacement since I believe there is something wrong. I will stick around with the BlackOps platform just not this particular speciment I have.

PS: Has anyone tried using 2x 2GB kits of CellShock on this board at 450FSB+? If you have please let me know because I REALLY would like to run my PC with 4GBs and the CellShock seems to be running perfectly at the moment. Once I trade my Q9450 for an E8500, I'm interested on getting it running at 500FSB+ with a lower multiplier [so that I can run the CellShocks at 2000Mhz or so].

2 x 2gb what model/chipset, I know saaya has a pair of 2GBs Cellshock, He'll test them tomorow, with the 8500 you will be using.

[LardArse]

Stupid question... I set the RAM divider to 1:4 400FSB while running the CPU at 8x 400FSB and when I get into windows and bring up CPU-Z and Aegis pannel, they both tell me the RAM has been set to 1:2... So my question is this, does this happen to any of you as well?

from my experience 1:4 FSB333 runs better, and CPUZ reports actual MHz , not multiply by 2 so 1:2 is 1:4

[Telo]

2 x 2gb what model/chipset, I know saaya has a pair of 2GBs Cellshock, He'll test them tomorow, with the 8500 you will be using.

I'm sorry for the confusion, I meant to say 2 kits of 2x 1GB CellShock 1866.

[LardArse]

I'm sorry for the confusion, I meant to say 2 kits of 2x 1GB CellShock 1866.

ok 4 x 1gb, as for chipsets saaya would prolly know this

[Telo]

ok 4 x 1gb, as for chipsets saaya would prolly know this

If by chipset you mean the kind of Micron chips used on that particular RAM, I believe they are Micron D9JNL.

[spikerules]

If someone could try out some OCZ ReaperX memory (2x 2GB) with bios G25, I would be much appreciated. I cant get ANY memory overclocks done with this board. In fact, the board is actually running the memory SLOWER than it should, and whenever I try to get it to 1333 (which is what the memory should run at) the power shuts off and then it wont run again until I reset the board! Its becoming REALLY annoying. I also have an issue where CPUZ is telling me I am running at 2.4... but when I put some load on the CPU it goes up to 3.6! I have turned speedstep off in the bios, so why is this happening?

[raptor1]

Hi! All

before i post my settings and screenshots which i am in the middle of getting ready i have a few queries that i hope some one can answer

these queries are in relation to air cooling

1. if any one is using a thermalight ultra 120 extreme cpu cooler which orientation is best north/south or east/west, the reason been is of the size of this cooler in relation to the NB

2. suggestions for cooling the nb

3. what criteria is there for claiming that a system is stable, how many times should a stress program be run, if it passes once is that enough, because i can get memtest+2.01 to run all 8 tests once but on the second pass it fails, the same goes for super pi

any answers to the above questions would be welcome

thanks
flanr

[Planet]

If someone could try out some OCZ ReaperX memory (2x 2GB) with bios G25, I would be much appreciated. I cant get ANY memory overclocks done with this board. In fact, the board is actually running the memory SLOWER than it should, and whenever I try to get it to 1333 (which is what the memory should run at) the power shuts off and then it wont run again until I reset the board! Its becoming REALLY annoying. I also have an issue where CPUZ is telling me I am running at 2.4... but when I put some load on the CPU it goes up to 3.6! I have turned speedstep off in the bios, so why is this happening?

Disable everything in the CPU Config except for the Core Multi Processing. That will take care of the CPU throttling. As far as the memory. Switch the board to Manual OC mode. Set the memory voltage to the voltage as close to 1.85V as possible. You might hafta go to like 1.91. Then set the memory timings to 6-5-5-18-1T. If thats unstable you might need to loosen the timings try like 7-7-7-18-1T. You might need to try using some of the different memory dividers.

[spikerules]

Disable everything in the CPU Config except for the Core Multi Processing. That will take care of the CPU throttling. As far as the memory. Switch the board to Manual OC mode. Set the memory voltage to the voltage as close to 1.85V as possible. You might hafta go to like 1.91. Then set the memory timings to 6-5-5-18-1T. If thats unstable you might need to loosen the timings try like 7-7-7-18-1T. You might need to try using some of the different memory dividers.

Thanks for the CPU answer, as for the memory information well, lets just say I've tried all the things you are suggesting, and no go for me

Update.. well just tried it again and I get to the same screen with a warning telling me that my hardware has changed and it gives me a windows file to repair. Is this a ploy by MS to stop people changing hardware with Vista, is this still and unstable memory problem? I just ask because I heard MS wanted to stop people from using the same copy with different machine and the same goes for hardware changes.

[gmcg]

Good to hear GMGC. Good to see the rest of you guys have most of the errors taken care of. Foxconn does care about there customers no board is perfect bios wise and thats why they are always updating. I know Shamino and his team was working hard on getting these issues resolved.

Thanks

Hi! All

before i post my settings and screenshots which i am in the middle of getting ready i have a few queries that i hope some one can answer

these queries are in relation to air cooling

1. if any one is using a thermalight ultra 120 extreme cpu cooler which orientation is best north/south or east/west, the reason been is of the size of this cooler in relation to the NB

With any Air cooler and especially TUE 120 due to it's size the additional cooling of NB becomes to be kinda problematic. You probably need to figure out by yourself how to do it.

2. suggestions for cooling the nb

The same as above.

3. what criteria is there for claiming that a system is stable, how many times should a stress program be run, if it passes once is that enough, because i can get memtest+2.01 to run all 8 tests once but on the second pass it fails, the same goes for super pi

To be sure that your system is stable UNDER load you need to run either Prime 95 ver 25.6 or Everest Stress test or wprime during an hour or more and see if your temps are stabilized after raising, some people run it during 8 hours+
My guess is that one hour for 2 or 4 cores 100% loaded is good enough to say that the systems is stable because under a real situation it is doubtful that cores will be loaded such high unless you do HD rendering or something similar.

There are some exceptions though. I had 2 hours of prime 95 on 790i and after it it froze with good temps ... another person reported about the same situation after 14 hours of prime 95 ...

[saaya]

telos, 4x1gb at 2000 cas8 wont be easy...
i have 4 sticks here so let me give it a try

2. suggestions for cooling the nb

use the waterblock
works great for me

3. what criteria is there for claiming that a system is stable, how many times should a stress program be run, if it passes once is that enough, because i can get memtest+2.01 to run all 8 tests once but on the second pass it fails, the same goes for super pi

i always used test 5 which worked great for me. sometimes other tests error out first, but test5 is reliable and fast, so id recommend that one.

but memtest is really only a chipet/mem thing, and more mem than chipset even. so to make sure the board is really stable run some 3d like the crysis benchmark, that really stresses all the hardware a lot.

[gmcg]

Regarding the HUGE difference in RAID transfer rates ... here is the picture
It is from this article http://www.presence-pc.com/tests/Nvi...790i-22787/26/
What is the reason to have WD Raptors RAID 0 on Nvidia 790i, if I can reach the same or pretty close transfer rate with just ONE Seagate 7200.11 1Tb HDD (ST31000340AS), which costs almost the same as one Raptor, and has x6 capacity?
RAID 0 today looks like a joke on 790i IMO.

[saaya]

interesting... i didnt know the intel integrated raid blows the nvidia and amd solutions out of the water like that...

[raptor1]

should there be much of a difference between the 790i and x48 chipset

i have noticed that when i had an SEII 790i, the few times it did manage to get in to windows with out crashing i got an everest score of 12006 read and 15806 in 3d mark 06

on my blackops i am getting a read 11114 in everest and a 3d mark 06 score of 11110

surely this can't be right

any suggestions please

flanr

Edit: Answered my own question - Should Have RTFM - i had my graphics card in was the white PCI Express slot which only runs at 4x, was using this slot to make room to use a fan to keep the nb cool

i have moved it to the red slot which runs at x16 and now i am only down 60 fps from the 790i

[spikerules]

should there be much of a difference between the 790i and x48 chipset

i have noticed that when i had an seII the few times it did manage to get in to windows with out crashing i got an everest score of 12006 read and 15806 in 3d mark 06 with 7-7-7-21

on my blackops with the same memory settings i am getting a read 11114 in everest and a 3d mark 06 score of 11110

surely this can't be right

any suggestions please

flanr

Ditto! I am getting the exact same problem from swapping the SEII. I was getting 15k with the SEII (although I managed a higher memory speed) and with my blackops I'm only just reaching 12k. I noticed the difference in framerate the moment I opened 06, within the first demo I was getting like 10fps less in some sections!

Lucky I kept my SEII and didnt send it back. Might swap em back again, considering I could only get to 3.0GHz stable on the SEII (but I could get 1600MHz out of my memory) but at least I got a 3k difference in performance, which is just silly! Especially when I am getting a higher clock speed with this board!

Want to know the strangest thing? My CPU score is around 1000 LOWER (on 06) on the blackops, with 600MHz LOWER difference on the CPU speed. Now thats what I call dumb! This, combined with the fact I cant clock my memory, is a board killer for me.

It's just NOT on. Yeah I can show people I have 3.6GHz... WOOOOWAHH WOOO, but when it equates to poor frame rates, silly bios's and the inhability for the board to detect my true memory settings, well, let's say I can do with out it. Especially when this board is silly expensive compared to other boards which reach higher 3DMark scores. I am going back to my SEII and sending this board back, at least until someone explains to me why this is happening, and without the normal "oh its the bios, wait for the next one" nonsense. Because, with all due respect, this isnt what we paid for, and it certainly isnt what we were told from reviews, including this site I might add.

Rant over... I hope someone proves me wrong, I really do! I see the potential in this board, but thats the problem... potential! This is a final release, therefore potential doesnt come into the picture... we should be talking settings and who got to what speed and how. Not, "oh hang on, this doesnt make sense" or "my memory doesnt match the voltage", or "I had to put poorer spec memory to get this board running" etc.

Rant really over now!

Edit - glad the guy above me sorted out his problem, but I am still running mine in the top BLUE slot ( I guess flanr meant BLUE as the red slot is the lower second slot furthest away from the NB), which means I still have no answer! And XP doesnt equate to 3k difference, sorry.

[gmcg]

I had the same problem as you have guys.

IMO Nvidia uses more aggressive basic memory settings in it's BIOS because they wanted to show that 790i is "a fastest motherboard in the world". Having stability problems with P02 BIOS in P03 they removed P1 and P2 settings, and the memory speeds became to be significantly lower with the same timings. People started to complain and use BETA BIOS P03R02, such as it had P1 and P2, but that BIOS had a corruption problem. They have created several new BIOSes such as P04 and then P05, but the stability problem is still present. They have a problem - they showed high memory settings to people, and everybody wants those settings, but those settings lead to instability in many cases, they can't lower the rates as they did in P03, therefore they need to find some kind of "golden middle".

Foxconn was created to reach the top benchmark results using LN2 - and it definitely broke several world records. Those settings (and BIOSes) are mostly designed for uber clocks and top level (it means very experienced and knowledgeable) overclockers. Now with the retail release Foxconn started to take care about regular users and new BIOSes P04 and G25 are much better for air colling and water cooling overclocking.

Foxconn is much more adjustable comparing to 790i, you can reach any results you want with it. But we don't have enough information to follow someone's settings yet, which we like, therefore we either need to wait or find those on our own. One can use Captain's settings, posted in this thread, though for me - for example - those have too high voltages used.

I guess you need to find more aggressive timings and raise you FSB clock as much as possible. Currently I can't reach a stable 460 MHz FBS (QX9650), as I had in 790i - with Foxconn, max what I have for now is 430 MHz even with G25 BIOS, of course the test results are a bit lower than with 790i, but I would always trade that difference for stability, which I didn't have with 790i (I am talking about my particular board, some people report that they have their boards stable) and now have with Foxconn(we are talking about safe voltages/safe temps here for 24-7 operations). I am planning to spend more time adjusting the board to get better results, of course.

I would recommend you several steps:
1. Use G25 BIOS (or P04)
2. Get your FSB clock as high as possible .
3. Use 177.26 driver for you videocard. It requires some modification of nv_disp.inf file, described in 3D guru thread.
4. Tighten your memory settings - look which ones people use

[spikerules]

gmcq,
I would recommend you several steps:
1. Use G25 BIOS (or P04)
Done that

2. Get your FSB clock as high as possible .
Done that

3. Use 177.26 driver for you videocard. It requires some modification of nv_disp.inf file, described in 3D guru thread.

And why? I used the same drivers as I am now under the Asus and was getting excellent scores

4. Tighten your memory settings - look which ones people use
LOL - this board wont even let me go one step up from 1066, when my memory is 1333 capable.

[raptor1]

Thanks


With any Air cooler and especially TUE 120 due to it's size the additional cooling of NB becomes to be kinda problematic. You probably need to figure out by yourself how to do it.


The same as above.


To be sure that your system is stable UNDER load you need to run either Prime 95 ver 25.6 or Everest Stress test or wprime during an hour or more and see if your temps are stabilized after raising, some people run it during 8 hours+
My guess is that one hour for 2 or 4 cores 100% loaded is good enough to say that the systems is stable because under a real situation it is doubtful that cores will be loaded such high unless you do HD rendering or something similar.

There are some exceptions though. I had 2 hours of prime 95 on 790i and after it it froze with good temps ... another person reported about the same situation after 14 hours of prime 95 ...

use the waterblock
works great for me

i always used test 5 which worked great for me. sometimes other tests error out first, but test5 is reliable and fast, so id recommend that one.

but memtest is really only a chipet/mem thing, and more mem than chipset even. so to make sure the board is really stable run some 3d like the crysis benchmark, that really stresses all the hardware a lot.

Thanks for your suggestions - all help is appreciated