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    This is interesting as heck! I cant wait to get time to play with the E6600 I have been running on D7 since the 4-5-08! that would be 3 weeks come tuesday and from the looks of it I will start my testing/playing that afternoon. I will make note of all load temps before I start. I cant remember exactly what temps were before I took the chip and board to the barn but I can tell you I was happy because temps dropped 2 or 3 degree



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    Quote Originally Posted by littleowl View Post
    This is interesting as heck! I cant wait to get time to play with the E6600 I have been running on D7 since the 4-5-08! that would be 3 weeks come tuesday and from the looks of it I will start my testing/playing that afternoon. I will make note of all load temps before I start. I cant remember exactly what temps were before I took the chip and board to the barn but I can tell you I was happy because temps dropped 2 or 3 degree
    This ought to be interesting...waiting for Riptide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiGfever View Post
    This ought to be interesting...waiting for Riptide.
    well I am not going to tell him to come and make fun of me



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    Quote Originally Posted by tastymannatees View Post
    A high res of the Center Glaze would be great. The BLT there is probably only .001 thick. If you all want to send me your CPU's I run a dial indicator check on them, I promise to send them back .

    I wonder if it is possible to to take an impression on a piece of fine metal foil. Then take on indicator reading off of that. compressed state vs relaxed

    Yes you did say that from the beginning about the contact and I was not listening. I was looking at the trees, not the forest. Great observation on your part. Thick headed on mine.
    We are all learning a lot from this. Your viewpoint has taught me a few things and led to good improvements, particularly my mount performance consistency. The pea glob is my friend....

    High res of the D7 pic you used above will be in your email shortly.

    I also think your suggestion on the center contact not allowing the TRUE heat pipes to be optimum makes sense too. I'll be interested to see what happens when I use your edge lap suggestion.

    I've learned a few things from my teammates here too. Good stuff folks!

    So, like the best of scientific collaboration, we all win from this. We couldn't ask for more than that...

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    Another impression from Anandtech. Insidious ran 3 impressions- increased pressure, lapped sink, lapped IHS

    http://home.comcast.net/~swright38/lapresult.pdf
    Last edited by tastymannatees; 04-27-2008 at 04:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastymannatees View Post
    Another impression from Anandtech. Insidious ran 3 impressions- increased pressure, lapped sink, lapped IHS

    http://home.comcast.net/~swright38/lapresult.pdf

    hum thats funny. you look at the impressions and he will be using D7 to make a full gap between his heat spreader and heat sink.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 123bob View Post
    We are all learning a lot from this. Your viewpoint has taught me a few things and led to good improvements, particularly my mount performance consistency. The pea glob is my friend....

    High res of the D7 pic you used above will be in your email shortly.

    I also think your suggestion on the center contact not allowing the TRUE heat pipes to be optimum makes sense too. I'll be interested to see what happens when I use your edge lap suggestion.

    I've learned a few things from my teammates here too. Good stuff folks!

    So, like the best of scientific collaboration, we all win from this. We couldn't ask for more than that...

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    Yeah, well I found out from the forum testing that the pea size was best for most users and now from the forum testing I can say pretty much why.

    One the quintessential questions on universally all forums is "how much paste do I use"? and everybody throws out a different method and amount.

    I think the question can now be answered as far as amount - It Depends

    If you have a lapped IHS and sink you can use 1/2 a pea size and it will work fine. because you have fewer valley's and voids to fill.

    If you have a sink and IHS with lots of irregularities, depressions, voids, Valley's you need a pea size to fill those gaps. I am being the master of the obvious here which is pretty much what thermal compound is intended for.

    The fine tuning is really up to the individual.

    Fantastic stuff! being able to put spotlight on this certainly has helped me considerably. Thanks again for the time and effort/ great job all

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    My films will be in the mail tomorrow.
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    A different kind of print but kind of the same as 123bob's CPU: Intel Q6600 (B3)
    HSF: Kingwin RVT-12025

    http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=555270&page=4

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleowl View Post
    This is interesting as heck! I cant wait to get time to play with the E6600 I have been running on D7 since the 4-5-08! that would be 3 weeks come tuesday and from the looks of it I will start my testing/playing that afternoon. I will make note of all load temps before I start. I cant remember exactly what temps were before I took the chip and board to the barn but I can tell you I was happy because temps dropped 2 or 3 degree
    lol, when I talk to my wife her eyes glaze over and roll back in her head

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastymannatees View Post
    I think the question can now be answered as far as amount - It Depends

    If you have a lapped IHS and sink you can use 1/2 a pea size and it will work fine. because you have fewer valley's and voids to fill.
    that depends on what grit you lap too. i did mine to 800 so it shouldn't be much different from stock
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleowl View Post
    hum thats funny. you look at the impressions and he will be using D7 to make a full gap between his heat spreader and heat sink.
    Good point - I have asked him to do another "before" test with the original compound so we have a full comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 64dragon View Post
    that depends on what grit you lap too. i did mine to 800 so it shouldn't be much different from stock
    lol so we are back to full pea?

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    not necessarily, like you said, it depends, if you lap it to a fine grit like 1200 or 2000 probably a half pea but 600-800 is what i've heard that thermalright laps to so when i lapped my heatsink i just made it flat and didn't change the size of the "valley's" much if any but did change their direction
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    I think I am back to the full size pea as kind of a cover any contingency to get best results and leave it the cognoscenti to work optimum amounts for themselves.

    Tried the carbon paper today and it was a no go, not sensitive enough over a broad area did not leave a mark. Staples has some clear film similar at least in look to the pressure film I might try that this week. Roller and ink? aluminum foil? Play dough? tape? I've got to read up on forensic crime scene stuff . There has got to be a simple way to take impressions.

    I think on my next giveaway beta test I'll include the contact paper from the beginning although I won't do the full digital imaging, great stuff

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    Andrew, when do you want to have your pressure test samples back? I've got one that's done right now, but I'm still waiting for the sample I ordered so that I can do a second test on my other machine.
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    I have just received the film. I'll have the pressure test done tomorrow, but I wont be able to mail it until next week (1-3rd May are national holidays in Poland).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martijn View Post
    Andrew, when do you want to have your pressure test samples back? I've got one that's done right now, but I'm still waiting for the sample I ordered so that I can do a second test on my other machine.
    I got 2 back today so on some kind of bell curve probably take 2-3 weeks to get all of them back.

    So I plan to be sending them back out in batches as they come in. just depends how fast you guys want results. first batch goes tomorrow for imaging.

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    That is definitely possible I think.
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    i mail out mine couples days ago, i am not sure if you received them yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bail_w View Post
    i mail out mine couples days ago, i am not sure if you received them yet.
    Yours was the first I got back from this group

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    I am hoping to do some testing tomorrow afternoon and if all goes well then I will send mine out wed. Don't hold me to that yet.



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    well, it might take me a little longer to get the pressure film in the mail. I found out I punctured my radiator on my water cooling loop the day before I got the film in the mail and then I got sick so I couldn't test. I'll get this done ASAP

    Sorry for the delay

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    I got only one today in the mail.

    Be careful to send only the printed image do not send donor part back, especially in the same envelope as the print

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastymannatees View Post
    I got only one today in the mail.

    Be careful to send only the printed image do not send donor part back, especially in the same envelope as the print
    I have edge lapped results on Farm-09 and pics I'll post up tonight. Didn't have time due to the day job getting in the way....

    I have two films left to press and then I'll send them back. Probably Thursday in the mail, for all the films, at the latest.

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