790 corruption issues?

[TheHardCase]

Ok update, I have been running this computer real hard.
Gaming all day, running all kinds of programs & it's running like a champ.
So I have no idea about what happened the first time but, this time the computer has been running for almost 2 full days with 0 problems.

[strange|ife]

I had a 680 almost kill my raptor 150 aswell. The raptor150 has been cause for several sata errors on various boards. NEw firmwares should have addressed this by now. I got rid of the pos 680 though after my second try. My raptor turned out to be fine on intel board.

as anyone tried a pcie/pci sata controller yet?

[Movieman]

Poll reset to zeros on saaya's request as some didn't understand.
Vote for one only please and everyone above this post please vote again.
Thanks.

[saaya]

actually, you can vote for both if you do/did have access to reference board and the asus board

so those hdds dieing could be a problem of the WD firmware?
i dont know... then how come they only seem to die on nvidia chipsets?

Why was the first Armor a terrible case? I understand it didnt have cable management which was a HUGE dissavantage compared to the P182 or P190. Now the Armor plus has removable motherboard tray and cables can be passed from the back of the case, why is it still a bad case? I would like to know why you say so since Im about to finish my rig and I wouldnt like a sucky case, just want to hear some comments from your point of view
Plus it has a lot of space and 10 slots... I think thats plentty of space isnt it?

1. it weighed quite a few kilos
2. it was huge... way oversize which doesnt make sense... itll make the airflow worse.
3. i didnt like the design tbh
4. you had to literally take half the case apart to change the psu depending on the size of the psu
5. cheap plastic bad quality usb and sound plugs on the top

No problems here Saaya, EVGA 790i SLI works perfectly no corruption at all

thanks vince looks like youll have to vote again tho ^^
we had to reset the poll

It's a very worrisome situation with regard to 790i, in my personal opinion. Usually a small revisions are denoted as A0 -> A1 -> A2, etc.. But 790i has apparently been under a couple major revisions and I heard about C0 and C1 stepping for the 790i SPP.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3275&p=2

so there was b0, b1 launched, and now there are already c0 and c1 is beeing worked on as well? 0_o geez...

[Xorf]

You think the problem is hardware or just the bios immature ?

Thanks

[dinos22]

Poll reset to zeros on saaya's request as some didn't understand.
Vote for one only please and everyone above this post please vote again.
Thanks.

i don't think that ppl that voted can actually vote again

[Achill3uS]

FYI, xt0m just lost a 74GB Raptor and a 250Gb WD HDD on his 790 board! :o
he got bsod's, then problems during install, so he ran the WD disk tool and they are both dead/damaged...
Achill3us... id recommend you to unplug your raptor NOW lol :S

So how many HDDs has 790 killed so far?
OBR raptor
xt0m raptor + 250Gb wd hdd
anandtech 2x 74gb raptor

5hdds so far, and they are all WD! coincidence?
people with high end systems tend to use WD raptor drives, so maybe its as coincidence...
but it might have to do with the HDDs as well!

lol don't scare me saaya
but this feedbacks sounds really said, but we don't know for how long use time coming this hdd corruptions...
i use the S2E till one week with 0507 bios and the only issue wich i've recognised is some memory instability at make round clocks like 1600.00mhz
but back to hdd problems, has smbody experience about when and how coming this issues? with high nb voltage, or if you test max fsb, push the mobo some high clocks ect... this could be REALLY important...

[KTE]

I haven't voted since this is 790i but my 780i corrupted HD [WD?] and hence OS after plus 470FSB oc'ing with DDR2 MEM under 650 always, so I'm not sure you can say it's a problem restricted to only 790i. I have a dual boot with Ubuntu 64b, 64b is always more vigilant to catching MEM errors so I try it. I just booted the Ubuntu install after I felt the errors were being caused with very heavy fragmentation and it showed all the offsets which were corrupted at boot and when booting Windows again, the drive kept needing Checkdisk to fix physical errors. SATA II drive, E8400, S2F. CPU/MEM can do these settings easily though and they seemed fine on the S2F until I rebooted.
You'd have to test very accurately to determine any corruption at low and stable settings, for a first, you'd have to know the state of hardware and OS right before the "corruption inducing" tests.

[saaya]

hmmm i emailed gary from anandtech but didnt get a reply yet...
ask xt0m, he had 2 hdds die on him, he should be able to give you some details.
if he tells you interesting details please post them here

and dinos, you cant vote?
you should all be able to vote again, editing wasnt possible so i asked for a clear reset.

KTE, well, this hdd corruption thing seems to be related to the southbridge, which on 790 and 680 is identical right?
the memory instability causing corruption seems to be yet another problem related to the northbridge, or maybe just the bios...
hopefully just the bios...

[eternal_fantasy]

Yep can't vote again. "You have already voted on this poll"

[Blacklash]

I'll be watching this to see how it develops.

[DaMulta]

Maybe this is why Vista64, kept blue screening on me. Finally resulting in NTFS Failure and had to reinstall.

I went back to XP this go around, and haven't had the issue from that point on.

Now I have been having problems getting it to run stable with memory at 1333, but it could just be the ram. I have had the bios come up as corruption but a reset makes it go away. This is with the ram being set to 1333.

[RealTelstar]

Also, the people that have been experiencing this corruption are using nvidia sata drivers or vista ones (assuming it has their own)?

[BenchZowner]

I don't think it's a driver related issue

[DaMulta]

nvidia sata drivers here

[saaya]

im waiting for staff to fix the poll guys, just hang in there
it should dissapear soon, then there will be a fresh poll and i will pm you all asking to vote again
sorry for the hassle... seems polls arent working very well in vbulletin...

[5010]

nvidia SATA drivers a CR@P and always seem to have been, EVGA recommended NOT using them over on their forums.

[Big Myke]

nvidia SATA drivers a CR@P and always seem to have been, EVGA recommended NOT using them over on their forums.

What does EVGA recommend us using?

[5010]

What does EVGA recommend us using?

Microsoft's default Windows drivers.

[jugeen]

Are you using nForce drivers?, What Windows Version? RAID?

i use nForce drivers, no raid, xp sp2, 2 SATA HDDs, 1 SATA DVDRW

[slim142]

NVIDIA ANSWERED ME ABOUT THE FSB AND MEMORY CLOCK ISSUES



Troubleshooting
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/n...p?p_faqid=2166

Hopefully this means something (dont know how serious NVIDIA is, but remembering 680i, we might have a solution soon). We need the fix ASAP as I have components ready to be OC!

[slim142]

i've got a b1 also, using nforce 9.46 with a raid 0 setup. the only strange thing i've seen is what i wrote about above. and im not sure if that's related to something else or if it's because of the corruption issue.

I think you mean nForce 9.64 since I dont remember 9.46

It's a very worrisome situation with regard to 790i, in my personal opinion. Usually a small revisions are denoted as A0 -> A1 -> A2, etc.. But 790i has apparently been under a couple major revisions and I heard about C0 and C1 stepping for the 790i SPP.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3275&p=2

Hopefully like said by other user, this is related to the non-ultra version since many ASUS owners are gonna be pissed! eVGA usually gives discounts or trade-ins for their boards but not ASUS. Do you think ASUS would exchange the board if NVIDIA made an announcement saying B1 SPPs are defective?

Maybe this is why Vista64, kept blue screening on me. Finally resulting in NTFS Failure and had to reinstall.

I went back to XP this go around, and haven't had the issue from that point on.

Nice to hear somebody is at least booting and running XP. Dont know what to say about your RAM problems.

1. it weighed quite a few kilos
2. it was huge... way oversize which doesnt make sense... itll make the airflow worse.
3. i didnt like the design tbh
4. you had to literally take half the case apart to change the psu depending on the size of the psu
5. cheap plastic bad quality usb and sound plugs on the top

Saaya, does weight matter? Most people dont move their cases around that much. Yes, you are right, even though it is very big, I forgot about air flow, but with that many fans, do you still think air flow is REALLY affected?
The design, seems ok for me, and about the PSU, yes thats right TT has always made the worse PSU space designs. About the cheap plastic well, not all is made of plastic, bad quality USB? Im not gonna use that neither the sound plugs

The reason why Im interested on that case is because is spacious and it has cable management (not as good as Antec but has one)

[RealTelstar]

nvidia SATA drivers a CR@P and always seem to have been, EVGA recommended NOT using them over on their forums.

See?
Prolly is not a driver issue, but I would exclude that cause.

[C'DaleRider]

From Anantech's website........about this problem:

Data Corruption - not Political Corruption - with NVIDIA’s Latest Boards

[dinos22]

hmmm i emailed gary from anandtech but didnt get a reply yet...
ask xt0m, he had 2 hdds die on him, he should be able to give you some details.
if he tells you interesting details please post them here

and dinos, you cant vote?
you should all be able to vote again, editing wasnt possible so i asked for a clear reset.

KTE, well, this hdd corruption thing seems to be related to the southbridge, which on 790 and 680 is identical right?
the memory instability causing corruption seems to be yet another problem related to the northbridge, or maybe just the bios...
hopefully just the bios...

i can't saaya....but i will probably stay out of it anyway as i am doing in the OSes during RAM testing

i corrupted another OS last night while testing RAM

this is getting on my nerves now

lol during my initial testing all i did is leave RAM at 2GHz 8-7-6-20 1T and go about usual tests lol and now with all the RAM tests i keep losing OSes

it's definitely unusual. i cannot remember last time i took out an OS with a mobo...............................intel or nvidia chipset


the thing with my setup is i have usually 3xpartitions >> XP > vista or win2008 server > backup partition
i only lose the OS i try to boot to if something unstable >>> the rest of the data is still intact and second OS works and all my screenshots and software is fine >> not a corruption of the drive

i think BenchZoner is right......i don't see this as a software issue but i will test that..........i will just install naked systems and do RAM tests again and see what happen >> hit prediction is that i will still kill an OS

i've been using memtest (1x loop#5) last night for most of the testing but this time i didn't do it as my RAM settings were within the normal range but my CPU was vcore starved as i was booting at 5.4GHz

i've reported my issues to nvidia as well