Intel's "Westmere" - 32nm Hexacore

[Donnie27]

Arh..thats a streching it. Try again at 22nm and more cores :P

Heehee and some hearty HAHAHA's! QFT!

[xlink]

...and by the time we have power to run crysis @1920x1080 very high we still
don't have what it takes to run Far Cry 2 even on medium.

Maybe I'll switch to Intel when these are out and IF I have the money to do so.

you fail to realize that with the way in which motion blurring is implemented and how turning is implemented...

25FPS in crysis is about as smooth as 100FPS in CSS...

[shiznit93]

you fail to realize that with the way in which motion blurring is implemented and how turning is implemented...

25FPS in crysis is about as smooth as 100FPS in CSS...

not a chance.

[Bo_Fox]

Ooooohhh... sounds nice! The Oct-core will only be for Xeons, IIRC. Not even Crysis would benefit from an Oct-core any more than it would with a highly clocked quad-core.

Right now, I wish there were tri-cores out there at a sweet price point of say $200 or $250---on a 45nm process, Intel could sell them in droves for a profit. I think I can see Intel doing it for their Celeron series at least, after AMD releases tri-core K10's.

Man, 32nm is hard to imagine. Honestly, I thought we would never ever come to see chips being made on 32nm process, due to some kind of a "hitting-the-wall" limitation of silicon. Remember the severe problems associated with 65nm?

I think AMD will make a comeback someday real soon. They did an early release of R680's on 55nm. Now, they are getting ready for 45nm with both K10's and R700's. But for Intel to do 32nm is almost un-thinkable for me! 22nm anyone? When will we hit the wall on silicon? Even improved 193nm lithography can only do so much.

[LordEC911]

I think AMD will make a comeback someday real soon. They did an early release of R680's on 55nm. Now, they are getting ready for 45nm with both K10's and R700's. But for Intel to do 32nm is almost un-thinkable for me! 22nm anyone? When will we hit the wall on silicon? Even improved 193nm lithography can only do so much.

ATi/AMD might be doing 40nm later this year for GPUs.

[Bo_Fox]

ATi/AMD might be doing 40nm later this year for CPUs.

I thought 40nm was only for memory chips made for the likes of Samsung, Hynix, Qimonda, etc...? Also at TSMC?

Where did you get this info?

[Donnie27]

ATi/AMD might be doing 40nm later this year for CPUs.

Smaller than Processors at 45nm?

[LordEC911]

I thought 40nm was only for memory chips made for the likes of Samsung, Hynix, Qimonda, etc...? Also at TSMC?

Where did you get this info?

Smaller than Processors at 45nm?

Hmmm so that G did look funny, since it was a C.
I definitely meant TSMC's 40nm and that ATi/AMD might have 40nm GPUs.
My bad...
http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20080324PR205.html

[Metroid]

Hmmm so that G did look funny, since it was a C.
I definitely meant TSMC's 40nm and that ATi/AMD might have 40nm GPUs.
My bad...

lol. CPU thread. People tend to think other things.

Metroid.

[LordEC911]

lol. CPU thread. People tend to think other things.

Metroid.

Well he was talking about R700 which is currently rumored to be 55nm...
Anywho, fine I will stay out of this thread so it can get back ontopic.

[Donnie27]

Hmmm so that G did look funny, since it was a C.
I definitely meant TSMC's 40nm and that ATi/AMD might have 40nm GPUs.
My bad...
http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20080324PR205.html

Yes, I saw that. But I hadn't seen anything about them using it for ATI/AMD products. If so, that's cool. I like ATI cards and can't wait

[Shintai]

Hmmm so that G did look funny, since it was a C.
I definitely meant TSMC's 40nm and that ATi/AMD might have 40nm GPUs.
My bad...
http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20080324PR205.html

The first production is as usual not GPUs or anything like that. But embedded items.

40nm GPU will be much later. TSMC starts by making the very simple things first, then the more advanced 6-9 months later. As I see it any GPU would be more around xmas timeline.

A full range of mixed signal and RF options accompany the 40G and 40LP processes along with embedded DRAM, to match the breath of applications that can take advantage of the new node's size and performance combination

[Bobsama]

I want to see/hear more about the dual-processor platforms. To me, quad-processor is too much (motherboard real estate taken up by 4 sockets & all the extra RAM), and dual-processor with 16 cores will be excellent. Beckton DP is what I really want--hopefully they'll have processors at under $500 to do exactly that. Extend the gaming life of the computer and make it awesome for WCG and similar tasks.

[Donnie27]

I want to see/hear more about the dual-processor platforms. To me, quad-processor is too much (motherboard real estate taken up by 4 sockets & all the extra RAM), and dual-processor with 16 cores will be excellent.

Then even that will show up as 32 cores via Hyperthreading 2

[NapalmV5]

Q is.. how many years will it take to release these..

@ current pace we'll be lucky to get the other penryns by next year

[Bobsama]

Quite basically--I'll be due for an upgrade in the 2-3 years it'll take to get Beckton launched and likely on its second revision. I want something like today's Xeon E5420, but equivalent for Nehalem. BTW--how do you say "Nehalem"? I think it's Nay-hell-um.

[frankR]

Give me a Beckton. Now.

[4X_FTL]

BTW--how do you say "Nehalem"? I think it's Nay-hell-um.

Paul Otellini of Intel pronounces it Na-hay-lum.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/830178/i_am_nehalem/

[Bobsama]

AH--thanks. I don't like Metacafe though... oh well. Anyways--I'm really looking forward to Beckton DP... they say possible by the end of this year... meaning that I may pick up the 32nm version of Beckton or beyond. Anything for WCG

[Metroid]

Paul Otellini of Intel pronounces it Na-hay-lum.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/830178/i_am_nehalem/

The project responsible for the project pronounced Ni-hei-lan, (hei) pronounced as the strongest part.

The source is IDF 2007 video.

It depends the region anyway, it is said differently.

Metroid.

[Bobsama]

Ok--just trying to stay fairly consistent. So, Beckton will be DDR2 FB-DIMMs? I'm a bit curious about that since FB-DIMMs have pretty high latency, made up for massive sizes required in servers.

[Blauhung]

Ok--just trying to stay fairly consistent. So, Beckton will be DDR2 FB-DIMMs? I'm a bit curious about that since FB-DIMMs have pretty high latency, made up for massive sizes required in servers.

yes, FB on beckton. The buffering cuts down on errors that come up from having long path lengths between large ammounts of memory and the MCH. I believe there will be some fun in this area coming out to help reduce that hit, but in general, the systems which this is used in don't care about memory latency and care far more about data integrity.

[Blauhung]

AH--thanks. I don't like Metacafe though... oh well. Anyways--I'm really looking forward to Beckton DP... they say possible by the end of this year... meaning that I may pick up the 32nm version of Beckton or beyond. Anything for WCG

I'm like 95% sure there will be no such thing as a beckton DP. And even if there was it will be like 4x the price of nehalem due to the 2x die size. A little more then twice as much on production cost due to the # of them you can fit on a wafer, and twice the chance of getting a die killing defect on it.

[STaRGaZeR]

Ne-ha-lem (being "lem" the strongest )