Maximus Extreme - Results/Info/Bios

[3oh6]

Roger_D25: If you have a USB stick copy the bios to the USB stick enter the Bios and tab to the last menu and select EZ Flash.

It will allow you to select the BIOS from the USB stick so that you can flash it.

As a last resort use the windows flash from the cd or flash from a floppy drive.

i second that...flashing in windows will at some point lead to heart-ache and an RMA.

[Roger_D25]

Thanks very much guys, your help is greatly apprecaited! I indeed flashed using the method you mentioned instead of using Asus Updater. After posting my original question I realized I haven't even had time yet to test stability (despite the fact all my BIOS settings are at default settings). Before starting to work through the "Extreme Tweaker" settings I wanted to load Windows, drivers, software, etc... With that said the flash went just fine and I'm not running BIOS 0905.

[3oh6]

alright guys...now perhaps i am retarded, damn good chance, but i am stumped.

i actually have the sound card installed, first time for everything, and installed drivers and have the little black hawk interface crap all working great. Vista X64 BTW. but when i plug headphones into the rear green port, it tells me to plug them in the front. the software is setup to accept headphones in the front slot and there doesn't appear to be a way to change it to the rear green slot.

i obviously don't have a front panel seeing as the motherboard is sitting on a box and for the life of me, i can't tell the software to use the rear green port for headphones. the manual even goes as far as saying that the system will designate the headphones for front panel use...but hen goes on to say that some systems might not have a front panel. geee, thanks Asus

how about listing how to change the port configuration so you can use headphones through a rear port instead of pointing out the obvious.

so...any help here guys. i just love how Asus will always make you feel like a tool at some point with their boards.

[Roger_D25]

so...any help here guys. i just love how Asus will always make you feel like a tool at some point with their boards.

Ditto, and I'm used to running DFI boards, crazy! I just spent about 1.5hrs trying to figure out the corrrect way to set up the first 4-6 settings in BIOS (Extreme Tweaker)! I'm still not sure but I'm getting there, with that said this is the first time I've said to myself, man I wish this was as easy as setting up my DFI, lol!

3oh6,
I just read through pages 5-12 to 5-20 in the manual thinking I might be able to help you out but it doesn't seem to mention anything specifically for the setup of headphones? I assume you have played with the "Jack Configuration" menu in the audio software? Out of everything I read that seems to be your best bet! This is why I've always tried to just use an aftermarket soundcard, lol! Good luck man.

[3oh6]

thats the thing, there is no jack configuration to be found in the Vista version of the software. there appears to be jack configuration in the XP version of the software and as soon as i go back to XP with this board i will check but i am testing some GPUs now and Vista it has to be.

i never have sound enabled for SPi or 3D benching, obviously, and that is all this motherboard normally does. it just happens to be loaded with all the latest games and has monster video cards laying in wait so i figured why not take advantage...but COD4 just sucks without sound

anyone else run into this?

[Roger_D25]

Its just not the same without sound, with that said you must have a Sound Blaster X-Fi lying around amidst all that uber high-end hardware you have?

On a somewhat separate note guys I'm getting very high CPU temps, even at absolute stock settings? I uninstalled PC Probe II because I just didn't like it but according to both CoreTemp (0.96.1) and Everest Ultimate 4.20 my idle temps are between 45C-48C (3.0Ghz @ 1.125v)? I'm currently on watercooling and it's a somewhat decent cooling loop. My old E6850 at 3.6Ghz on the DFI under same H20 system ran at 23C-26C at idle and never even peaked above my current idle temps under full-load? I've re-seated my waterblock a few times with no luck. Plus my GTX which is in the same loop still has the same temps as it did in my old system (36C-38C)? Am I the only one suffering from this on this board? Thanks guys for any help or suggestions...

[Pyr0]

elllo m8

I just tested this with a P5N32-E SLI board which also uses Soundmax
I installed these drivers dated 18/01/2008 on the FTP:
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/aud...0162_Vista.zip

When the AudioESP window popped up asking me what I had plugged into the green jack, instead of leaving the default option for front panel headphones, I chose the option for Front Speakers (L/R) / Rear Headphones


HTH

-Paul

[3oh6]

Its just not the same without sound, with that said you must have a Sound Blaster X-Fi lying around amidst all that uber high-end hardware you have?

you know, i don't use my benching rigs for anything except benching and the on-board sound on my killer single core 2x512MB socket 939 daily rig does me just fine for my needs so no, not a sound card in the building...until they make one that helps with SPi times

When the AudioESP window popped up asking me what I had plugged into the green jack, instead of leaving the default option for front panel headphones, I chose the option for Front Speakers (L/R) / Rear Headphones
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3...phones2dd2.jpg

HTH

-Paul

bloody hell Paul you make me feel so dumb sometimes . i knew it was something stoopid like that. i could have swore i read through the options carefully and did not see anything for headphones and rear slot and i know i tried that option before but silly me had the 'independent headphones' selected as the default sound device at the time which sends all audio to the front panel jack .

give me a BIOS with a million options and i will figure out what it all does in a weekend...ask me to get headphones to work with a fancy soundcard and i am a starving monkey holding a banana with mitts on.

[sdumper]

...ask me to get headphones to work with a fancy soundcard and i am a starving monkey holding a banana with mitts on.

LoL we've all been there

[Pyr0]

lol, sorry m8
sometimes its so easy to miss what's right in front of you i've done it loads of times

btw, i noticed you mention the black hawk interface above.
i think the driver link i posted may be newer as it has a new interface for vista and DTS connect
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/misc/aud...0162_Vista.zip

[Jeff Flowerday]

Bios 905

Patriot Extreme Series DDR3 1333 7-7-7-20 1.7v

I'm running my memory at 1.8v (4x1GB sticks) but the monitor in the bios says 1.9v. Everest gives me the same reading 1.9v.

What's up with .1 descripency?

The memory is rated at 1.7v but with 4 sticks I have to run it at 1.8v(default timings) or Vista x64 won't boot. Am I missing something in the bios or is this nature of the beast?

The actual(monitor) readings are what scare me, it's not leaving much room to push it. I wanted to give my qx9650 a mild overclock say 9.5 multiplier, 400fsb and have the memory running at 1600mhz as well.

PS) Forgive my nube overclocking skills...

[cuprasport]

anyone tried beta bios 1002?

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...eme/BE1002.zip

[cuprasport]

forgot to add i want 0904 back if this doesnt work as 1001 sucks, just means my e8500 wont recokgnise right?

[3oh6]

The memory is rated at 1.7v but with 4 sticks I have to run it at 1.8v(default timings) or Vista x64 won't boot. Am I missing something in the bios or is this nature of the beast?

The actual(monitor) readings are what scare me, it's not leaving much room to push it. I wanted to give my qx9650 a mild overclock say 9.5 multiplier, 400fsb and have the memory running at 1600mhz as well.

PS) Forgive my nube overclocking skills...

on BIOS 0904, setting 1.80v in the BIOS shows 1.90v in the monitor like your board. Everest just reads the same thing as the BIOS. but a digital multi-meter reading from the actual slot reads only 1.86v. with an older BIOS i was getting a digital multi-meter reading exactly what the BIOS/Everest was reporting.

you won't know unless you measure with an accurate DMM but chances are that the board is supplying about 0.05v~0.06v more than what you set in the BIOS. if you do have a DMM and want to measure, i posted some images of measure points somewhere in this thread...here it is:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=315

[pakko]

anyone tried beta bios 1002?

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...eme/BE1002.zip

BE = Blitz extreme...

We have Maximus Extreme

asus ftp mistake

[sdumper]

Bios 905

Patriot Extreme Series DDR3 1333 7-7-7-20 1.7v

I'm running my memory at 1.8v (4x1GB sticks) but the monitor in the bios says 1.9v. Everest gives me the same reading 1.9v.

What's up with .1 descripency?

The memory is rated at 1.7v but with 4 sticks I have to run it at 1.8v(default timings) or Vista x64 won't boot. Am I missing something in the bios or is this nature of the beast?

The actual(monitor) readings are what scare me, it's not leaving much room to push it. I wanted to give my qx9650 a mild overclock say 9.5 multiplier, 400fsb and have the memory running at 1600mhz as well.

PS) Forgive my nube overclocking skills...

The voltage discrepancies have already been pointed out so i'll just answer the other issue.

Unfortunately with 4 GB's or ram you will be limited in what you can achieve in an overclock. For example with 2GB of my Crucials installed I can pass memtest for 2 hours at 1.9 vdimm (real) and 1800 7-7-7-20 however with 4gbs installed I am not stable at 1700mhz 8-8-8-20 and 1.94 (real). Consequently I dropped my OC and Ram down to 400x12 (quad pumped 4 x 400 or a 2:1 ratio to get 1600) 1600mhz 7-6-5-15.

I believe the issue is with the mem controller because increasing NB voltage doesn't help me. I did recieve better stability when I tinkered with the memory ref voltage on a per channel basis but its not an exact science and you will need to try different settings for best results.

[Jeff Flowerday]

The voltage discrepancies have already been pointed out so i'll just answer the other issue.

Unfortunately with 4 GB's or ram you will be limited in what you can achieve in an overclock. For example with 2GB of my Crucials installed I can pass memtest for 2 hours at 1.9 vdimm (real) and 1800 7-7-7-20 however with 4gbs installed I am not stable at 1700mhz 8-8-8-20 and 1.94 (real). Consequently I dropped my OC and Ram down to 400x12 (quad pumped 4 x 400 or a 2:1 ratio to get 1600) 1600mhz 7-6-5-15.

I believe the issue is with the mem controller because increasing NB voltage doesn't help me. I did recieve better stability when I tinkered with the memory ref voltage on a per channel basis but its not an exact science and you will need to try different settings for best results.

Yah I can't do anything with my 4GB but leave it at stock clocking and 1.8v, pretty frustrating.

I guess the lesson learned for anyone reading is stay away from 4 sticks. I'm going to wait for prices to lower a bit and pick up 2x2GB sticks @ 1600mhz.

[GLENBOY]

anybody else using an e8500 with this board , i have an e8400 and temps and volts are what you'd expect , but tried the e8500 instead and the temps at same voltage as e8400 are a lot lot higher but goes to higher mhz on lower volts , wondering if this is a bios issue or whether i've got an e8500 which isn't making proper contact with the chip and heatspreader on the cpu, remounted 3 times to make sure, weird the e8500 needs 1.48 volt real to super pi at 4.6ghz whereas the e8400 needs 1.6 volt real to do the same but even with the lower volts on the e8500 its as hot if not hotter as the e8400 which has another .12 volts going through it, weird

[Infa]

Got my E8500, gets it to 4750 with minimum 1.60v , but then i cant go further couse the system just hardlocks at 500 nomather what, i really think its the mobo, no bluescreen no nothing, just hardlock as soon as i put it on 501
reaaal mobo issue...

ah well, yes temps are as bad for me too... i got my 24/7 clock now at 4,3Ghz and landing on a 1.45v, Temps are 37-40c idle, and 65c Loaded. high for such a low current, maybe 45nm are more sensetive against voltage

[GLENBOY]

cheers infa , i have now put the e8500 back in and gone back to 905 bios now from 1001 currently on auto vcore , now showing at 1.21 was showing 1.0875 before in everest temps seem normal atm but not overclocked yet

[Infa]

Hmm ok, so 905 works better than 1001? it can be just me, but i have a feeling that 1001 has a bit better fsb, but that can be wrong though...
gotta try 905 when i get home... see what happends

[GLENBOY]

no i think 905 is no better or worse so i'd stick with 1001, re my e8500 it runs a lot hotter than e8400 i have i am thinking that the heatspreader on the cpu itself is not flat maybe a bit convex so no making proper contact on the heatsink, i am not sure whether to lap it or ebay it and get another one

[GLENBOY]

also another thing i noticed when you leave cpu pll voltage on auto when i checked in bios it was at 1.85volt cpu pll so manually set to 1.50 might be worth checking

[Infa]

hehe yep noticed that as soon as i got the board though...
asus peps drinking when writing bios

i think the crosslink chip are a bit of a problem on this board...have gotten many bsods couse of NVAPI etc.. and i think my 0x00000124 have something to do with graphics to do.. somethings not right...

and the brick wall at 500, setfsb 502, and it hangs instantly...
im in the roll of a trade with a dude, my board and some money from him, and i will get the Giga P35T ? worth a shot?

i can keep it until Abit IX48 MAX coming that board looks nasty...

[sdumper]

Where exactly does the PLL voltage run?
Is it directly into the CPU and what component of the CPU?
Just wondering what difference cooling plays here...