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    Is it really use full to water cool the mosfet ? Sorry for the newbie question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Malik czesc!!

    These are the NK parts you used for the MAximus right?

    EK-Supreme - Acetal
    EK-NB S-MAX Acetal NB chipset block for ASUS Maximus SE!
    EK-NB/SB ASUS 3 - Acetal - AUSS X38 chipset boards (SB)
    EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a - Acetal (X38)
    EK-Multioption RES ??? rev.2


    EK-Mosfet ASUS 3 - Acetal will not fit on the Maximus right?
    Czesc

    I'm using:

    - D-TEK Fuzion Nickel-plated
    - EK-NB S-MAX Acetal Nickel-plated
    - EK-NB/SB ASUS 3 - Acetal Nickel-plated
    - EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a - Acetal (X38) Nickel-plated x2

    Tubes which i have right now - Innovatek 8/10, but in final rev. will be Tygon 3603 3/8" ID (1/2" OD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malik View Post
    Czesc

    I'm using:

    - D-TEK Fuzion Nickel-plated
    - EK-NB S-MAX Acetal Nickel-plated
    - EK-NB/SB ASUS 3 - Acetal Nickel-plated
    - EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a - Acetal (X38) Nickel-plated x2

    Tubes which i have right now - Innovatek 8/10, but in final rev. will be Tygon 3603 3/8" ID (1/2" OD)
    That is absolutely the cleanest H20 system I have seen. Where do you get the hose connectors? They really finish off the installation!! Also, What resevoir # is the one you used? I have a Stacker with the Asus Maximus Formula SE board that I am trying to convert over to H20 so very interested in the parts you used. I have the Thermochill pa 120.3 reservoir and a Swiftech MCP355 w/Custom MCP355-DDCT-01
    Delrin DDC Pump Top pump on the way. Will probably mount the radiator on the case top as have used the bays for the drives and drive bay window. Although the clean way you mounted your reservoir may make me change my mind!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Exahertz View Post
    I would have paid extra for one anyday. i just didnt know it was this bad!

    WE WANT BACK PLATES!!!



    blimey you guys dont read the forum or what :p

    search for "mosfet backplates"
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    We want backplates supplied with the blocks as standard equipment. We could make them by hand, or special order tham if thay are made for our mobo, but supplying them with the block is the best option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antho View Post
    Is it really use full to water cool the mosfet ? Sorry for the newbie question
    I am going to dance around this question best I can withought offending the Water cooling boys.

    MOSFETS do need cooling. I opted for heat sinks myself. The thing you need to know is that the MOSFET blocks are the most restrictive. If you are running 1 loop only, how many blocks are you planning on putting in it, and how much rad do you have?

    I am going to cool CPU, NB, and 1 bad boy GPU, in my 1 loop using the ThermoChill PA.120.3 radiator and D5 pump.

    I think if I would have put a CPU, GPU, NB, SB, and 2 MOSFET blocks in my 1 loop, my temps would have suffered. By cooling my SB with the Enzotech Forged Copper CNB-S1L sink, and dedicated 60mm Panaflo axial fan rated at 12CFM, and my MOSFETS with Thermalright heat sinks, I think I did myself a favor.

    Tough call to make...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogin View Post
    That is absolutely the cleanest H20 system I have seen. Where do you get the hose connectors? They really finish off the installation!! Also, What resevoir # is the one you used? I have a Stacker with the Asus Maximus Formula SE board that I am trying to convert over to H20 so very interested in the parts you used. I have the Thermochill pa 120.3 reservoir and a Swiftech MCP355 w/Custom MCP355-DDCT-01
    Delrin DDC Pump Top pump on the way. Will probably mount the radiator on the case top as have used the bays for the drives and drive bay window. Although the clean way you mounted your reservoir may make me change my mind!!
    i used EK-Multioption RES 250 rev.1, and the connectors are like this: LINK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    The thing you need to know is that the MOSFET blocks are the most restrictive. If you are running 1 loop only
    Remember, you can run them in parallel that will really open them up "restriction wise"
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    That is a good point buddy! I do think that would help too.
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    Exclamation One more setup

    I just started to look into watercooling and i am about to bulid it with the following parts (Will keep the fusion block as it is just now)
    Case Stacker 832, QX6700, 8800GTX OC (will not be WC just now)
    the parts iam looking to get are:
    1) Cape Coolplex Pro 25
    2) D-TEK FuZion CPU with Nozzle kit
    3) ThermoChill PA120.3 + Shroud planning to place it at the bottom, some modding will be taking place similar to Polished Orange/Blue Stacker 832
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=163563 from where i got the idea of it.
    4) Laing DDC-1T-PLUS with Alphacool Laing DDC Pro/Ultra top
    will be based on 3/8 ID fittings with ClearFLEX 60 Premium 3/8 ID
    Any thoughts ´??
    Just keep in mind this is my first setup but i learn fast.

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    just figured id point this out, look at how little contact area the TIM is making to the stock NB heatpipe cooler

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    Flow Order: >> Rad's 1 & 2 in parallel > Res > Pump > CPU > GPU > SB > NB > Mosfet 1 > Mosfet 2 >>
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    Can't be good...

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    Gasp!

    Less than optimum for heat transfer?

    Mabey the stock TIM will make up for it some?

    Sorry, it's easy to make jokes on this side of the fence...

    I do still believe the stock cooling is fine for mild over-clocking....

    I do however think you can't have too much thermal play room either, and cool chips add to system stability.

    Aftermarket blocks, and a quality mount and TIM are going to do better here for sure.
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    no update from me for some time sorry

    the phase unit is working with the water setup although the ATI HD 2900 XT is sent out for RMA i have a POS 2400 in there and it sucks. no issues with the waterblocks from EK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exahertz View Post
    just figured id point this out, look at how little contact area the TIM is making to the stock NB heatpipe cooler

    BAM, love that pic, So much surface, so little contact

    I will be pulling out the heatgun and taking that off and reapplying it with Arctic Alumina Thermal Compound and my favorite Artic Silver Céramique

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talonman View Post
    Gasp!

    Less than optimum for heat transfer?
    I do still believe the stock cooling is fine for mild over-clocking....
    I do however think you can't have too much thermal play room either, and cool chips add to system stability.
    Aftermarket blocks, and a quality mount and TIM are going to do better here for sure.
    I also think that the fusion block is the Corner Stone of that whole heatpipe setup, so the better you get Xfer the better it will effect the whole heatpipe solution.

    Do you think there is any gain in just switching that fusion block once it's removed and putting a MCW30 in it's place, even if it's epoxy mounted, or is that just overkill?
    I am also speaking from the point of a Maximus Extreme owner, the bigger Blue heatsink (covering 2 chips) is more problematic to replace with all Aftermarket solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by systemviper View Post
    I am also speaking from the point of a Maximus Extreme owner, the bigger Blue heatsink (covering 2 chips) is more problematic to replace with all Aftermarket solutions.
    Speaking about the Maximus Extreme only, I should have the first working prototype from EK to replace that blue Crosslinx heatsink in a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by systemviper View Post
    I will be pulling out the heatgun and taking that off
    i tried removing the stock WB with heat and wasnt very secessful. Its a very brittel glue like (Epoxy maybe) substance that won't even come off with acetone when heated with a butane torch. just feels like sand paper now.

    if you look real close to the aluminium heat sink you will see pri marks from ware i had to use a chisel and a hammer to wedge inbetween them and pop them apart which i do not recomend doing while that sink is still attached to the chipset

    i just wanted the Fusion block as a desk ornament
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      Res: Swiftech Micro | Tee's: 4x MartinM's High Flow Copper Tee's | Elbow's: None | Y's: None
    Flow Order: >> Rad's 1 & 2 in parallel > Res > Pump > CPU > GPU > SB > NB > Mosfet 1 > Mosfet 2 >>
    Temperatures: CPU: 57°C Max, Running Prime95 | GPU: 58.3°C Max, Running 3Dmark | NorthBridge: Untested!
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    So i guess im not going to risk anything an just order a backplate for my mosfets. i have to drain my loop and add a few things anyways.

    ware/who can i get them from???
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      CPU: D-Tek Fusion Block | GPU: Danger Den Full Coverage 8800 Block | Mobo: EK's Mosfet, NorthBridge and SouthBridge Blocks
      Res: Swiftech Micro | Tee's: 4x MartinM's High Flow Copper Tee's | Elbow's: None | Y's: None
    Flow Order: >> Rad's 1 & 2 in parallel > Res > Pump > CPU > GPU > SB > NB > Mosfet 1 > Mosfet 2 >>
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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    cheers mate i will pick one of those up !!!

    will i need those lights ?? in maliks pic?

    Any links on i can get 2?
    Lights included dissy.
    Think might get one, myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_rtr View Post
    I just started to look into watercooling and i am about to bulid it with the following parts (Will keep the fusion block as it is just now)
    Case Stacker 832, QX6700, 8800GTX OC (will not be WC just now)
    the parts iam looking to get are:
    1) Cape Coolplex Pro 25
    2) D-TEK FuZion CPU with Nozzle kit
    3) ThermoChill PA120.3 + Shroud planning to place it at the bottom, some modding will be taking place similar to Polished Orange/Blue Stacker 832
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=163563 from where i got the idea of it.
    4) Laing DDC-1T-PLUS with Alphacool Laing DDC Pro/Ultra top
    will be based on 3/8 ID fittings with ClearFLEX 60 Premium 3/8 ID
    Any thoughts ´??
    Just keep in mind this is my first setup but i learn fast.
    Welcome to the forum!

    I think you have a good RAD and CPU block selection. I would think you will be pleased with both of them.

    I checked out your RAD selection too...
    Here is a good review: http://www.modthebox.com/review386_1.shtml
    Looks to be another good choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creek Tha Gray View Post
    No issues with the waterblocks from EK.
    Good to hear!!
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    Got my MAximus a few days ago - and the Swiftech MCW30 does not fit properly.. The hole spacing on the mobo is just a tad too big

    The Apogee GT does fit perfectly though

    ..Still not able to get above 475MHz FSB with my dual..

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    If possible does any one have some suggestions about how to cut the bottom plate of the stacker 832 to fit tha PA 120.3
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOriginalTB View Post
    Got my MAximus a few days ago - and the Swiftech MCW30 does not fit properly.. The hole spacing on the mobo is just a tad too big

    The Apogee GT does fit perfectly though

    ..Still not able to get above 475MHz FSB with my dual..
    I think we officially should not recomend the Swiftech MCW30 for the Maximus any longer. Your not the first in this thread to have an issue mounting it.

    Glad the Apogee GT did.
    Asus Maximus SE X38 / Lapped Q6600 G0 @ 3.8GHz (L726B397 stock VID=1.224) / 7 Ultimate x64 /EVGA GTX 295 C=650 S=1512 M=1188 (Graphics)/ EVGA GTX 280 C=756 S=1512 M=1296 (PhysX)/ G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) / Gateway FPD2485W (1920 x 1200 res) / Toughpower 1,000-Watt modular PSU / SilverStone TJ-09 BW / (2) 150 GB Raptor's RAID-0 / (1) Western Digital Caviar 750 GB / LG GGC-H20L (CD, DVD, HD-DVD, and BlueRay Drive) / WaterKegIII Xtreme / D-TEK FuZion CPU, EVGA Hydro Copper 16 GPU, and EK NB S-MAX Acetal Waterblocks / Enzotech Forged Copper CNB-S1L (South Bridge heat sink)

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