ATI HD 3800 Review Thread

[Unbornchild]

22.605 3dMark 06

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Hey but your Core 2 Quad QX9650 sure brings big value! (should, for what you must have payed)

[Donnie27]

Just as FX-57, Intel X6800 and FX60 were bragged about as being worth every penny when they sold for even more LOL! That's the bad news, the good news is that any $279 Q6600 can reach that speed and much faster. That puts the bottleneck back on the video card/s.

Anyway, I like my 3870 and can't wait to add another. I'm absolutely hoping that Direct X 10.1 is ported to WinXP so I can get the most out of my card without having to downgraded to Vista.

[ThatGuy16]

Anyone in vista trying to run crysis with 2gb? Im getting some crazy fps drops randomly. When i minimize it will say like 1.9gb used. I get avg of about 30fps, but it gets nearly unplayable when this starts. My other 2 gigs should be here tomarrow. Should that fix it?

[Unbornchild]

I didn't try it in Vista yet. But yes, in Vista with the superfetch, 2 GB is a minimum, you should have 4. In your case it starts to use the paging file already.
But you have installed all performance patches, have you.

[ThatGuy16]

no?

If you don't mind do you have a link?

[mascaras]

PowerColor Adds AGP TO HD 3000 Series


First AGP HD3850 PCS:


http://www.powercolor.com/Global/pro...ProductID=1730

[Unbornchild]

no?

If you don't mind do you have a link?

Oops sorry i missed your post.

Must have essential fixes:

KB938194
KB938979
KB940105
KB941649

only for users of SLI/Crossfire:
KB936710
KB945149

To see which updates you have/don't have yet: View the history in Windows Update in Control Panel, or go to Installed Updates:
Start button > Control Panel > Programs, under Programs and Features, click "View installed updates".

[ThatGuy16]

haha thats ok

Thanks, i checked. They have all been installed from auto updates

[Virous]

Was seriously contemplating get 2 of the new HIS ICEQ3 Turbo 3870s.
But after reading all the issues with Vistax64, crysis, and especially Gears OF war..im sorry but ati scared me off..going to stay on the nvidia bandwagon for now..Hopefully the X2 brings me back.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I never seen nor heard any issues with crysis, Vista 64 (there were even reviews using Vista 64) and gears of war.



I find that kind of post odd when G80 had major issues with just vista along with other games list CS:S, HL2 Ep1 (fog issues) etc when it was released and yet people still waited out until those issues were fixed. I don't recall them staying away or mass exiting

[RAW-Raptor22]

Wow! Nice, I might have to pick up one for both my tualatin rigs...

[Helmore]

PowerColor Adds AGP TO HD 3000 Series


First AGP HD3850 PCS:


http://www.powercolor.com/Global/pro...ProductID=1730

Holymoly, that ensures that AGP made it all the way into the DX10.1 era and this probably is the performance crown if you want an AGP card. Although that doesn't get me excited , AGP is pretty much dead.....

[WRC]

AGP just refuses to die!

[RAW-Raptor22]

AGP just refuses to die!

Nothing wrong with that...

[Lugburz]

Hey guys!

Is CrossfireX (2+ cards) working with current drivers?

[lazy]

hey guys, just wanted to confirm the Swiftech MCW60 works on the 3870's right?

[marauder16]

hey guys, just wanted to confirm the Swiftech MCW60 works on the 3870's right?

yes, with the old plate for the x1000 series

[LowRun]

Hey guys!

Is CrossfireX (2+ cards) working with current drivers?

No it's not. It should work with the drivers that will be released with 3870X2.

[lazy]

yes, with the old plate for the x1000 series

are all the adapter plates included or do i have to purchase them seperately?

[Lugburz]

No it's not. It should work with the drivers that will be released with 3870X2.

It´s a shame... anyone knows the ETA on those?

[LowRun]

It´s a shame... anyone knows the ETA on those?

January 28th has been mentionned many times, nothing official tho'.

[10e]

Hey there,

I take great interest in this thread. I just purchased a Diamond 3870 and Sapphire 3850 (512MB version) and will try to put forth some Benchmarks with the 3870 in master and the 3850 secondary in some games. Gonna try Crysis, Bioshock, COD4 and Oblivion (if I can) for comparison. I'll be running the benchmarks with the CPU at 3.6 Ghz.

I'm interested in seeing Crysis difference in the two OSes that I have. I also have an HIS Turbo 3850 512MB on the way and hopefully can bench that in this config (replacing either 3870 or 3850).

Keep up the good work guyz, and cheers.

10e

[mascaras]

CES 2008

AMD Introduces ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3000 Series - First Microsoft DirectX® 10.1 Graphics Processors for Notebook PCs

Feature-rich graphics solutions to power next-generation AMD notebook platform built for a high-definition, mobile world

LAS VEGAS (2008 International CES) -- January 7, 2008 --AMD (NYSE: AMD) today announced the ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3000 series, a new family of discrete graphics for high-definition gaming and video in notebook PCs. The initial offerings consist of ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3400 series and ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3600 series. ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 series allows notebook users to experience the full power of HD through graphics processing designed to satisfy the most demanding mobile users at work and play. Featuring the latest industry-standard technologies, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 series is optimized for the forthcoming AMD notebook platform, code-named “Puma”, to deliver The Ultimate Visual Experience™.

“ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 series from AMD showcases our technology leadership by delivering customers the most feature-rich family of notebook graphics solutions we’ve ever produced,” said Matt Skynner, vice president of marketing, Graphics Products Group, AMD. “ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 sseries delivers the absolute latest industry-standard technology breakthroughs for notebooks with Microsoft® DirectX® 10.1 and PCI Express® 2.0 support. AMD is also the first company to offer integrated DisplayPort™ connectivity. These new mobile graphics give leading notebook manufacturers like ASUS the ability to create solutions with outstanding new features including next-generation quality, yet battery-efficient, visual experiences in notebooks.”

The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 series advances to the next generation of HD gaming and life-like realism thanks to unmatched Microsoft DirectX 10.1 capabilities. The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 series offers support for DirectX 10.1 by enabling a higher level of visual quality through new lighting and rendering techniques designed to enhance the realism and quality of 3D games. New PCI Express 2.0 support enables faster throughput and greater overall system performance as compared to PCI Express 1.1 -- ideal for high-performance gamers. Notebook users can play the latest Blu-ray and HD-DVD movies in full-HD 1080p resolution (HD display required) using ATI Avivo™ HD Technology which frees the CPU for other tasks. With a choice of digital outputs, notebook users can connect to a variety of displays featuring DVI, HDMI™ and the first ever next-generation DisplayPort support on a notebook platform.1 These new notebook graphics chips provide breakthrough battery efficiency and superb performance-per-watt, delivering exceptional battery life for enthusiast users.

“The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3600 series turns graphic power up a notch in the ASUS M50 and the F8 notebook series,” said Alvin Chou, Senior Notebook Product Manager of ASUS. “With the innovative graphics solutions from AMD, ASUS can deliver notebooks to the market that offer visual performance for high-definition movie playback plus HD gaming as well as great battery usage.”

At this year’s Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, AMD showcased the upcoming notebook platform, codenamed “Puma.” In “Puma,” the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 series graphics will join AMD Turion™ Ultra notebook processors and the forthcoming AMD RS780 chipset to deliver powerfully entertaining power-efficient mobility. AMD plans to introduce “Puma” in the second quarter of 2008.

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 Series
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 features a variety of new technologies designed to improve overall notebook performance:

• Support for Microsoft DirectX 10.1 is provided by the enhanced unified shader architecture in the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 -- the first GPU family to support DirectX 10.1 by delivering increased precision, better lighting and more advanced programmability than Direct X 10.0. With DirectX 10.1, the new mobile graphics solution offers notebook users feature-rich graphics for astonishing image quality, new lighting and rendering techniques designed to enhance realism, and amazing 3D application performance for The Ultimate Visual Experience
• ATI PowerPlay™ Technology dynamically delivers the optimal balance between performance and power to suit performance requirements for extended battery life and superior performance-per-watt operation
• Long Battery Life through power improvements and low average energy use. Power is maximized with the advanced power management technology helping extend battery life and conserve energy
• Breakthrough Performance/Watt through exceptional performance and power saving features for low power consumption
• PCI Express®2.0 offers more than enough horsepower for the most demanding professional graphics applications by boosting 3D graphics performance while providing fast throughput resulting in an excellent overall system performance
• ATI Avivo™ HD Technology is the backbone for advanced video and display technologies, delivering smooth video playback and photos in high-definition format with brilliant colors and sharp images, ideal for professionals demanding the next level of display technology excellence
• ATI Avivo HD features an enhanced version of AMD’s Unified Video Decoder (UVD) offering full hardware acceleration of video decode for smooth playback of full 1080p content from HD DVD and Blu-ray movies and optimum power efficiency for long battery life. Enhanced navigation, picture-in-picture and advanced interactive menus combined with full-HD content make for engaging viewing entertainment
• Integrated Digital Outputs enable viewing standard and high-definition content on a variety of devices including HDMI with integrated Audio, DVI, and brand-new DisplayPort output capability delivering twice the bandwidth of DVI, providing flexibility along with seamless connectivity for brilliant display quality

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 series and ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3600 series are currently shipping in notebooks from ASUS. Additional products in the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3000 series are scheduled for availability from notebook manufacturers in the first half of 2008.

Source: AMD Press Release

regards

[Zytek_Fan]

HD38x0 should work quite nicely for mobile gamers.

[mascaras]

Sapphire to launch Radeon HD 3850 with 1GiB frame buffer. AGP already available.


Sapphire is already shipping an AGP-based version of the Radeon HD 3850 SKU, proclaiming it to be the world's fastest AGP solution.....probably.



Using the tried-and-trusted Rialto bridging chip as the enabler for the AGP conduit on the PCIe-based DX10.1-supporting architecture, the card opens up the possibility of upgrading your old AGP system's graphics without having to invest in a new motherboard and, possibly, RAM and CPU.

The card clocks in a 700MHz core and 1700MHz memory, packs in a healthy (and needed) 512MiB frame buffer and, as per the reference design, utilises a single-slot cooler.



Released later on this month, Sapphire will be retailing a PCIe-based Radeon HD 3850 with a whopping 1GiB frame buffer.

We can see the point in adding extra on-board memory to cope with games that utilise larger textures, thereby decreasing the need to run back to system memory on a regular basis, but 1GiB does seem overkill for what amounts to a budget card. Then again, with memory prices at ridiculously low levels, Sapphire shouldn't charge a huge premium for this part over other models in its HD 3850 range.

Stay tuned for reviews on both models, folks.

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