!!FOUND: Source of G3/8 BSP 1/2" ID metal thermochill barbs & shroud!!

[003]

I've finally found a source of REAL G3/8" threaded 1/2" ID brass barbs that fit the thermochill PA120.x rads!! No, these do not use an adapter and they are not the small ones that are being sold on NCIX.

Here is a link (you will need two):
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/inde...&products_id=4

Also, as some of you may know, the shrouds for the thermochill PA120.3 rads have become impossible to find. Well, this same site has 3 in stock (and i just ordered one). Here is the link:
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/inde...products_id=11

If you want any of this, I suggest you order asap. I e-mailed Performance-PCs about the availability of the shrouds and other thermochill products and this is the reply I got:

I don’t know if we will ever carry their product again. They don’t seem to
want to ship to the US anymore much.

Scary. And it seems the PA120.3 is becoming impossible to find now!

[perfection]

How about these?
http://www.petrastechshop.com/aqhifig3th1o.html

Would they fit on a Thermochill?

[003]

Yes they would. Try buying them though

[Scubar]

I wish Thermochill would just sort it out and make it G1/4" instead of using their stupid 3/8" BSP size. It is only making it more hassle for us consumers and more than likely losing Thermochill a few customers.

[teko]

I prefer the 3/8" thread.. I just wish everyone else would switch to it, as my local plummer has loads of different stuff for 3/8" :p

[taylormsj]

I've finally found a source of REAL G3/8" threaded 1/2" ID brass barbs that fit the thermochill PA120.x rads!! No, these do not use an adapter and they are not the small ones that are being sold on NCIX.

Here is a link (you will need two):
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/inde...&products_id=4

Also, as some of you may know, the shrouds for the thermochill PA120.3 rads have become impossible to find. Well, this same site has 3 in stock (and i just ordered one). Here is the link:
http://www.gammods.com.au/store/inde...products_id=11

If you want any of this, I suggest you order asap. I e-mailed Performance-PCs about the availability of the shrouds and other thermochill products and this is the reply I got:


Scary. And it seems the PA120.3 is becoming impossible to find now!

If anyone in US wants one but cant find one, ill buy one form UK and shipf or alittle price

[perfection]

Buy from GAM!! in Oz not the UK

its cheaper over here
the UK is almost twice as expensive?

[MrToad]

I wish Thermochill would just sort it out and make it G1/4" instead of using their stupid 3/8" BSP size. It is only making it more hassle for us consumers and more than likely losing Thermochill a few customers.

Finding fittings for 1/4" BSPP is as easy as it is to find them for 3/8" BSPP.

Still, there's people that insist on buying Pizzas in Amazon. Or ice skating uphill.

There's plumbing shops, chandlers, pneumatic/hydraulic equipment suppliers... probably your local brothel stocks fittings as well...

It only makes more hassle for those who'd rather NOT use their brains.

[Garrett]

Nice barbs indeed... try putting Tygon 3/8 over those

[003]

Nice barbs indeed... try putting Tygon 3/8 over those

I take it you are being sarcastic by insinuating that they are the very small "1/2" barbs that are being sold on NCIX. They are not. I know this because,

1. you can tell by comparing the pictures.

ncix:


gam:

(the top view in the upper right is the giveaway)

2. I have the small barbs from NCIX right here sitting on my desk. Just by comparing them to the pictures on GAM, you can easily tell the shaft is wider on the ones pictured at gam (based on how far a point on the circumference of the shaft is from a point on the perimeter of the hex nut that is perpendicular to a tangent drawn on the original point on the circumference of the shaft).

No worries. Unless the pictures are wrong, these are the real deal.

[CyberDruid]

Naw M8 I think you will be sorely disappointed.

Unless you physically are in possession of them and have measured them I would seriously doubt they are different.

Marci stated that Thermochill gets them made for them from a distr in UK: If these barbs are from Thermochill I would have to think they are the same as the ones I got from NCIX.

Not willing to spend $30 to find out either...

If you order some please take measurements and post proofs.

Thanks

[003]

I did order them. The shipping wasn't a problem, because I was ordering the PA120.3 shroud as well, so it would have been the same without them.

I will of course let you guys know the results of this, but I can say 100% conclusively that they are not the same barb based on the picture at GAM alone.

If you will notice, where the shaft is affixed to the hex nut, there is a very noticeable slope. On the ones from NCIX, it is just a straight 90 degree angle. Also the shaft is noticeably shorter.

EDIT:
Also, GAM is also selling G3/8" 3/8" ID metal thermochill. Pic:


Other than the 2 extra ribbings on the shaft, linear slant where the shaft is connected to the hex nut, longer threading, and lack of an o-ring the shaft looks exactly like the ones from NCIX.

And there is more. NCIX has stocked them since well before september. Gam just got a new shipment of thermochill parts on 11/29, and since there were 20 of these barbs in stock when I ordered (now 18), I would be willing to bet they just had gotten their stock replenished. Thermochill could have by this point very easily had their barb manufacturer make the barbs bigger.

[003]

Just received this reply from GAM:

They're definitely 1/2" barbs. I don't have any 1/2" tubing but it is a very snug/tight fit with 7/16" tubing. The barbs I sell at the moment are original ThermoChill barbs, 3/8" or 1/2" only, with 3/8" thread.

[headala]

Hmmmm, maybe I ought to buy up my local plumber's supply of G3/8" barbs (at $1.25 each) and bring them back to the USA next time I come.

[CyberDruid]

Just received this reply from GAM:

That does not fill me with confidence so I await your report when you have them in hand.

7/16 would be a snug fit on the NCIX barbs and an almost impossible fit over a real 1/2" barb without first stretching the tubing.

But we could always just go to the local brothel and pick some up: they are that easy to find..I hear.

[Nate P.]

I can get G3/8 1/2in. barbs at my local Ace Hardware for really cheap. I like the ones with o-rings though, that's why I don't use them.

[Jedda]

I posted GAM as a source for TC barbs a few times lately.

Have a sample pair he sent me and a digital vernier caliper sitting here on the bench.
OD = 14.1 mm
ID = 10.9 mm

He does get them from TC

I find 7/16" needs heating to get onto them.

[Martinm210]

Whew...

I was just about to order a G3/8" threading die too, glad I procrastinated...

Good find!

[NaeKuh]

So tempted to post a pic of my unused set i got at petras when they had in stock....

But yeah, there a real PITA to get. I wish alex could work something out with marci and get barbs for them or DD starts ordering them.

[Garrett]

I take it you are being sarcastic by insinuating that they are the very small "1/2" barbs that are being sold on NCIX. They are not. I know this because,

1. you can tell by comparing the pictures.

ncix:


gam:

(the top view in the upper right is the giveaway)

2. I have the small barbs from NCIX right here sitting on my desk. Just by comparing them to the pictures on GAM, you can easily tell the shaft is wider on the ones pictured at gam (based on how far a point on the circumference of the shaft is from a point on the perimeter of the hex nut that is perpendicular to a tangent drawn on the original point on the circumference of the shaft).

No worries. Unless the pictures are wrong, these are the real deal.

I'm not saying they were the small NCIX ones... just look at the size of those things... near impossible to get 3/8 over them for real
btw I don't even know NCIX for that matter... here in the Netherlands I order other barbs from a local store, 3/8 thread with 14mm OD... my 7/16 tygon fits snugly around that...

[Waterlogged]

Snip...

EDIT:
Also, GAM is also selling G3/8" 3/8" ID metal thermochill. Pic:


Other than the 2 extra ribbings on the shaft, linear slant where the shaft is connected to the hex nut, longer threading, and lack of an o-ring the shaft looks exactly like the ones from NCIX.

And there is more. NCIX has stocked them since well before september. Gam just got a new shipment of thermochill parts on 11/29, and since there were 20 of these barbs in stock when I ordered (now 18), I would be willing to bet they just had gotten their stock replenished. Thermochill could have by this point very easily had their barb manufacturer make the barbs bigger.

That is a BSPT ("R") fitting, not BSPP ("G"). It would be wise not to mix them with each other during assembly

I can get G3/8 1/2in. barbs at my local Ace Hardware for really cheap. I like the ones with o-rings though, that's why I don't use them.

You think so huh? I bet if you were to go into any ACE across the country and asked for a BSPP("G") fitting, they'd look at you funny and say "sorry, we don't stock that, but we have a wide selection of NPT". There just isn't enough money to be made on metric fittings for States side hardware stores to carry them in stock. I have Home Depot, Lowes, True Value, ACE, and Valu in my area and can't find a metric fitting at any of them. Heck, even Mcmaster carries a very limited selection of metric fittings, and that place is huge.

[septim]

hmm wonder if IandH would make em...

[003]

I posted GAM as a source for TC barbs a few times lately.

Have a sample pair he sent me and a digital vernier caliper sitting here on the bench.
OD = 14.1 mm
ID = 10.9 mm

He does get them from TC

I find 7/16" needs heating to get onto them.

Ah, so you actually have these barbs and they are in fact big enough for 1/2" tubing? Thats great, I knew it!

[Gabriel Noraa]

Eddy has just added to his shop some G3/8" barbs for 1/2" tubing. Perfect for thermochill rads.

[Jedda]

Yes 003, they're tight.
I had to apply as much heat to get my 7/16" ID tube over them as G1/4 D-tek !/2" barbs took elsewhere in my loop.
I've been suggesting the US guys try getting them from GAM for a while now. He doesn't have a 6" cube box as his minimum, like some US online shops. So post could be quite reasonable to the US.