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    This board is a lot better than some other boards I've used concerning initial VDIMM. Gigabyte boards are real bad about not supplying enough VDIMM to POST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    anyone know where is the Vcore measure points ????


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    Quote Originally Posted by ea6gka View Post
    ok loaded 405 , for the love of god DO NOT LOAD THIS BIOS !!!!111!1 it completely messed my bios settings plus sets 2.6 vcore automatically. i dont believe this , is asus testing the bioses before they relase it?

    HI

    I am having same problem. I flashed to 504 on my p5e and I can not flash to 402 bios. Afudos tells me the bios is too old. I also tried using older Afudos 2.11 and this also tell me the checksum is bad.

    Anybody know how I can go back to the older BIOS? 405 sets vcore at 2.6V!

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    Why?


    is it, everytime a new bios comes out people just dive on it like it is the holy grail! Do some reading and see if in the release notes you see if the solution to your Problem? is there. If not don't load it up. I am still using the original bios with absolutely no complaints. I am just taking my time getting to know the board. Not just the bios update section. It just keeps getting better.

    This board has lots to offer you just got to figure out how to get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeldZilla View Post

    is it, everytime a new bios comes out people just dive on it like it is the holy grail! Do some reading and see if in the release notes you see if the solution to your Problem? is there. If not don't load it up. I am still using the original bios with absolutely no complaints. I am just taking my time getting to know the board. Not just the bios update section. It just keeps getting better.

    This board has lots to offer you just got to figure out how to get it.

    WZ
    I partly agree with your statement, but I think that mobo manufactures learn from people actually having the mobo and giving them feedback. The first initial bios is stable due to a lot of testing before releasing the mobo. The following updates are quickly released (mostly as beta's) to again get user feedback.

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    well i am really ****** off with asus , after downgrading the bios to 107 the board could not update any bios reporting that the motherboard is NOT an asus one thus the updating process could not start. After 5-6 restarts the mobo went into continuous reboots , on and off....for ever. crashfree utility did not function

    the mobo is already in the bin , that was the last asus motherboard for me .

    thanks asus for your brilliant 200 euro mobo and leaving me 4 days without pc

    oh i have bonus photo to upload later
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    Just replace my old GA-965P-DQ6 with P5E, new board is much better than
    965P-DQ6 in every aspect, especially overclock options in the bios and DDR2
    oc'd very good.

    It's a pity that Asus didn't make their recent bios well, though. Could someone
    please advise that is there any P5E bios has its Q-fan work? Can't imagine why
    Asus isn't able to deal with simple task like this CPU fan is so noisy because
    bios just can't control it and running in full speed !
    Last edited by TKC; 12-06-2007 at 03:41 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sulu17 View Post
    HI

    I am having same problem. I flashed to 504 on my p5e and I can not flash to 402 bios. Afudos tells me the bios is too old. I also tried using older Afudos 2.11 and this also tell me the checksum is bad.

    Anybody know how I can go back to the older BIOS? 405 sets vcore at 2.6V!
    Download AsusUpdate 6.10.02, install it, in the options menu check the ability to downgrade the BIOS, chose to flash from a file and continue untill your favorite BIOS is correctly flashed.

    If you have Vista32, install launching "setup.exe"; Vista64 is probably not supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKC View Post
    Could someone please advise that is there any P5E bios has its Q-fan work? Can't imagine why Asus isn't able to deal with simple task like this CPU fan is so noisy because bios just can't control it and running in full speed !
    The funny thing is that Q-fan works perfectly on chassis fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brama View Post
    The funny thing is that Q-fan works perfectly on chassis fans.
    Really never found that, will give it a try, thanks!

    AsusUpdate 6.10.02 can't be installed on Vista x64, it's confirmed.
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    pencil mod done


    before :

    1.425v bios >> 1.38v windows idle >> 1.34v Full



    Now :

    1.425v bios >> 1.40v windows idle >> 1.39v full






    Idle (1.40v) :







    Full (1.392v) :





    (Just need a litle more of pencil and its perfect !! )




    Runing prime95 @ 3600mhz @ 1.38v >> Aircooled with thermalright extrme 120






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    I love this board so far. I hope my E8500 will get along with it come January. It should with a 9.5x multi...
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    2B Pencil VDroop Mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparx View Post
    Ok Radio Shack
    I set my Vcore at 1.400 reads out at 1.36 with the utility.
    Question is does yours read as set in BIOS?
    I used a 2B pencil and it improved my VDroop but didn't eliminate it.

    1.325 VCore in BIOS 0303 is 1.30V in PC Probe II. The E6850 does 3600 MHz stable at 1.325 BIOS VCore with 400FSB x 9 though -- G.Skill 2 x 2G at 1066 MHz. Not bad. Why is some VDroop necessary in the design of these boards?
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    Come on ea6gka. One minute you are running bios 402 all content to run perfectly at 400fsb. you even posted your cpuz. So why if that bios fit your system so well did you change it? Geez learn to leave well enough alone. Asus is as good as anybody at board building. As far as needing feed back from you and me on each new bios. I strongly doubt most of the is really the type of info that will help Asus write their next bios. I saw this on the P5W DH thread too. People grabbing every bios to come down the pike only to be disappointed. If you have a bios that is working good for you then leave it alone!!!

    WZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by sauria View Post
    I used a 2B pencil and it improved my VDroop but didn't eliminate it.

    1.325 VCore in BIOS 0303 is 1.30V in PC Probe II. The E6850 does 3600 MHz stable at 1.325 BIOS VCore with 400FSB x 9 though -- G.Skill 2 x 2G at 1066 MHz. Not bad. Why is some VDroop necessary in the design of these boards?
    What you're saying isn't really what you'd call VDroop. It's a simple difference in voltage readings from the BIOS vs. reality.

    VDroop is when your CPU is being supplied with a certain voltage during idle and then "droops" under load, causing lock ups and instability issues during heavy use (Orthos / gaming etc.) Almost no board out there properly reports actual VCore correctly-that's no biggie.

    What the mod does is stabilize the voltage and keep it the same during idle and load.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmzy View Post
    What you're saying isn't really what you'd call VDroop. It's a simple difference in voltage readings from the BIOS vs. reality.

    VDroop is when your CPU is being supplied with a certain voltage during idle and then "droops" under load, causing lock ups and instability issues during heavy use (Orthos / gaming etc.) Almost no board out there properly reports actual VCore correctly-that's no biggie.

    What the mod does is stabilize the voltage and keep it the same during idle and load.
    Thanks Brahmzy, there in no longer a drop during load with the pencil mod.
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    Just tested it again on bios 0402 with one memorystick (slot1)
    Getting the first error at first pass on adress 928.6mb(memtest86 1.7). Already disabled usb legacy.

    As stated: bios 0107 and 0201 give no errors.
    Only from bios 0303 and up it errors.

    I've used these sets of ram in different configs (paired, single, etc)
    cm2x1024-6400c4dhx
    xms2-6400 1024mb 800mhz 4-4-4-12
    2.10v ver2.1 07370844

    cm2x1024-6400
    xms6405v5.1 1024mb 800mhz 5-5-5-12
    004270 0633450-0


    Don't like this at all, allready mailed asus about it a few days ago, but you know, the're not responding :-(


    Only time it works without errors is when the bios crashes and it starts up with the f1/f2 bios action. I choose f2 (load default settings and continue) and running memtest I get no errors, but after resetting the problems are back again. Already talked about it on the corsair forums, but they can't do anything for me there cause it's not a bad memory issue.

    Is there any tool where I can see all bios settings within dos/windows?
    Maybe I can see some setting that's different (can't imagine cause I tried everything)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeldZilla View Post
    Come on ea6gka. One minute you are running bios 402 all content to run perfectly at 400fsb. you even posted your cpuz. So why if that bios fit your system so well did you change it?
    because i was hoping for better overclocking , 450x8 was impossible while cheaper boards such as ip35pro can do it. then this newer bios literally destroyed my board , wasnt expecting this

    Geez learn to leave well enough alone. Asus is as good as anybody at board building.
    i think the site is called extremesystems , leaving alone my board is not an option for me, especially when i know the board can do better

    I saw this on the P5W DH thread too. People grabbing every bios to come down the pike only to be disappointed. If you have a bios that is working good for you then leave it alone!!!
    generally every new bios fixes issues and offers new things and/or performance , i have never encountered this before though , a bios update which messed everything. instead of leaving my bios alone , i leave the board alone , so i can happily continue with my ip35pro, thanks/
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    CORSAIR 1333 w/ P5E3 NG!

    It will run on 1 stick and pass memory test all day. If you put 2 in dual channel, fails within 30 seconds EVERY time! Memory test fine in a DX38BT... also one at a time is fine, I ordered some OCZ plat according to the QVL Hope they work better... I am running a QX9650.
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    Got this reply for fixing my problems with my p5e:
    Dear customer,

    Maybe the best you can do is to downgrade your bios.

    Awflash.exe BIOS.bin /py/sn/cc/f

    Some more information for your reference:



    The complete command is: Awflash.exe BIOS.bin /py/sn/cc/cp/cd/r/f



    Explanation:

    /Py –Need not choose “yes” and flash BIOS directly

    /Sn – no save of the previously BIOS

    /CC – Clear CMOS after flash BIOS

    /CP – Clear PnP (ESCD) after flash BIOS

    /CD – Clear DMI after flash BIOS

    /R – System restart after flash BIOS

    /F – Flash BIOS by force







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    Quote Originally Posted by eyes.only View Post
    Got this reply for fixing my problems with my p5e:


    Am I getting crazy
    Have you tried this?
    sparx
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    Hey at least we have a solid solution for downrev'ing the BIOS, right? Instead of unplugging the thinghalfway through or whatever goofiness was discussed earlier in this thread... Looks like the /f switch would bypass any "can't revert to older BIOS" errors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brama View Post
    Download AsusUpdate 6.10.02, install it, in the options menu check the ability to downgrade the BIOS, chose to flash from a file and continue untill your favorite BIOS is correctly flashed.

    If you have Vista32, install launching "setup.exe"; Vista64 is probably not supported.

    Thanks!

    This worked perfectly with my p5e I had to google to find the program, but it was able to downgrade the BIOS. Now I am using 402 BIOS again but my qx9650 still can not go above 3.8ghz....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sulu17 View Post
    Thanks!

    This worked perfectly with my p5e I had to google to find the program, but it was able to downgrade the BIOS. Now I am using 402 BIOS again but my qx9650 still can not go above 3.8ghz....
    More VCore Cap'n!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyes.only View Post
    Got this reply for fixing my problems with my p5e:


    Am I getting crazy
    Why they recommend you to use Awflash which is for Award BIOS, my P5E is using AMI BIOS !!

    I have Vista 64 installed, and here is still no way to flash back to "OLD" bios from 0405, after tried all tricks shared in this thread, even advertantly corrupt bios to force it flash back to 0107 still fail to load any bios later than 0107 :-)
    How long do asus require to release new bios, really getting crazy and angry!
    Last edited by TKC; 12-07-2007 at 09:41 PM.
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    CPU: Q6600 G0 L723B837 @472x8=3776 (Vcore bios=1.5875, CPUZ 1.44 idle=1.520/load=1.472)
    RAM: Transcend aXeRam DDR2-1066+ CL5 2Gx4 @1133 5-5-5-20 2.36v
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