**Official DFI LanParty UT P35-T2R Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Speederlander]

You can water-cool both the NB and SB easily.... The NB can use a MCW30, and the SB can use a Danger Den Maze4.



They are working very well on my board.

Cheers..

But what do you use for digital pwm?

[pumbertot]

which PLL in clockgen?

[SmokeyTheBandit]

Got another board back from RMA. Seems to be working ok now. Was a little rough to get it to post since it seems to hate my Mushkin XP2 PC2-8500 4x1gb modules. Had to try each stick individually until one would post, then I upped the voltage on the DIMMs and put all 4 in.

Havent tried overclocking yet, I'll post some results when I get around to it.

Oh, and has anyone had experience with 4x1gb crucial ballistix 8500 on this board? I have some coming in on tuesday

I have 4x1GB A-DATA Extreme Vitesta dimms but they use the same D9GMH chips.

My findings with this board is that it is pretty hard to make it stable useing al 4 of the slots but the "Fine Delay" option in the bios is realy the thing to tweak to get these stable.

I will post my settings when i have the chance
But i must tell you i had a realy hard time getting these stable

And for the record my PCI-Express speed after a day of gaming was 16X but after a quick needed reboot without going in the bios it was back at 1x again.

Please look into this DFI "pretty friggin" annoying !

[Cascades]

But what do you use for digital pwm?

I am using the stock heatsink at the moment for the PWM Mosfets. I haven't found a waterblock for it yet.

[pumbertot]

no probelms getting my 4x1GB OCZ PC8000 XTC Xtreme Editions. clock as high as they did in the 680i around 1100MHz 4-4-3 2.2V so pretty decent.

[Raja@ASUS]

C-N
Try some other dividers, both 266 and 333 strap along with other multipliers to see if the results are the same. Also 3T may be broke with that BIOS version or all versions. I have never tried it. And I won't be able to for a few days.

With upto 7N available it is unlikely that performance variance between the timing range will be anything more than a few hundred mb/s. CPU-z is probably not configured for showing most of the timing levels this board allows. I just stuck with 2N as you have John, as it seems quite benign to drift away. As we both know 1N on this chipset is really like 1.5T rather than 1T..

regards
Raja

[cuhaos]

I have 4x1GB A-DATA Extreme Vitesta dimms but they use the same D9GMH chips.

My findings with this board is that it is pretty hard to make it stable useing al 4 of the slots but the "Fine Delay" option in the bios is realy the thing to tweak to get these stable.

I will post my settings when i have the chance
But i must tell you i had a realy hard time getting these stable

And for the record my PCI-Express speed after a day of gaming was 16X but after a quick needed reboot without going in the bios it was back at 1x again.

Please look into this DFI "pretty friggin" annoying !

yeah, with the last p35-t2r I was using, I had to pull teeth and raise the voltages to ~2.4-2.45v to get all 4 to run at their rated speed of 1066 5-5-5. And on the P5k Premium I had i could run all 4 at ~1170 5-5-5 2.3v stable. I think this board hates my ram a lot. I'm hoping for better results with the Ballistix 8500's that should be arriving tuesday.

[Seanie's Show]

Well finally got this bi**h stable just where I want it, only took about 3 weeks, so im not gonna even bother trying to push it any further, it appears the problem all along was my PSU, (OCZ ModXstream 780w Modular) it used to resonate like hell, changed it the other day for a Coolermaster Real Power 850w Modular and now im running completely silent.

Running an my Quad at 3.6ghz @ 1.45v, 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix (2 x 1gb & 2 x 512mb) @ 2.15v currently doing 1081mhz 5-5-5-15 with low NB and FSB @ 1.53v each (working on getting these down even further) and GTL's set to 112-112-115, Board at 450FSB, this just goes to prove that you dont need to set 1.6v to the NB and FSB to get it stable, in fact when I do set 1.6v to both it fails prime, just showuing its too much, I have yet to tweak memory, but so far it primes for plenty longer the 1/2 an hour which was a complete struggle before, it wasnt just failing prime, the whole computer was crashing/restarting.

[CyberDruid]

You can water-cool both the NB and SB easily.... The NB can use a MCW30, and the SB can use a Danger Den Maze4.



They are working very well on my board.

Cheers..

Are you encountering a clearance issue for running a second double wide GFX card?

Thanks for the tip!

I have a couple of friends at OverClock with mills...I am going to see if I can get them to make me blocks for the PVM/mosfet as I have seen none anywhere.


RE getting the stable

I can't seem to break the 3600 barrier so I am sitting tight and right and 3600 Folding 100% day in day out. I would like to keep pushing but the fact is 3600 is pretty decent

I have other rigs to push...I like this one so much (runs so cool) that I am hesitant to abuse it...that what Asus is for

[Cascades]

I didn't look at the clearance for a 2nd card as I am running only one at this time.

You are saying that you can only getup to 3600? I had mine stable at 4GHz almost right out of the box, and I haven't even started the Ram tweaks yet.

I have looked all over for a PWM cooler. If you have some made, put me down for one!

[CyberDruid]

I didn't look at the clearance for a 2nd card as I am running only one at this time.

You are saying that you can only getup to 3600? I had mine stable at 4GHz almost right out of the box, and I haven't even started the Ram tweaks yet.

I have looked all over for a PWM cooler. If you have some made, put me down for one!

I just have not gotten that Xrteme with this board yet. TBH I have a lot of projects and just reading this thread from end to end and taking salient notes would be a major undertaking. I have not found this board to be a quick set and forget type of board at all...and the settings other's post do not always have the same result ...it's something I intend to keep working with though. This one is a keeper...so I'll have plenty of time after I finish some of my more consuming work.

[Brother Esau]

yeah, with the last p35-t2r I was using, I had to pull teeth and raise the voltages to ~2.4-2.45v to get all 4 to run at their rated speed of 1066 5-5-5. And on the P5k Premium I had i could run all 4 at ~1170 5-5-5 2.3v stable. I think this board hates my ram a lot. I'm hoping for better results with the Ballistix 8500's that should be arriving tuesday.

Its the same situation with the ~Cell Shock~ I talk to guys with them on the P5K Board and they are not having the same issue at all actually to the contrary quite the opposite.

[Booj]

I'm hoping for better results with the Ballistix 8500's that should be arriving tuesday.

I'd be very interested in seeing your results. I have just ordered 4x1gb of Ballistix 6400 to use with this board.

[Brother Esau]

I'd be very interested in seeing your results. I have just ordered 4x1gb of Ballistix 6400 to use with this board.

I take it you're Team Xtreem is not panning out in this board?

[Booj]

I take it you're Team Xtreem is not panning out in this board?

No it's working well. It's just I want 4gb for playing the upcoming games under Vista... Maybe i'll get RV670 crossfire hehe

[pumbertot]

@Esau is your raid card PCI-E and np issues on this board?was just about to pick up a raid card but then I read of lots of problems on many boards including many P35 chipsets where the PCE-E slots only support video cards and wont work with PCI-E raid controllers.

[Brother Esau]

Raid Cards Runs Flawlessly! Buy a Areca Controller if you're going to get a Raid Card. If you are PM me and I'll hook you up with the guy I got mine from which comes with the Best Raid Controller and Storage Support Forum Bar None!

Dave......will ship to OZ and him and Ed are Aces and have some of the best customer support and service Ive experienced to date.

[cuhaos]

Just thought I'd share my experiences the past few days since there may be other people considering getting this board still. I've had 3x P35-T2R's now. Curse Asus for getting me in the RMA mindset (p5k premium madness) instead of the true troubleshooting mindset. I just had the same issue occur with (3rd) P35-T2R that caused me to send back the second P35-T2R.

P35-T2R #1 issue: Electrical noise.

P35-T2R #2 issue: C1 Error, would not post with any of the ram sticks I had. CMOS flush had no effect. Tried single Mushkin XP2 8500's in every slot and tried some OCZ platinum Rev.2's i had sitting around. The problem was both had EPP's and still wouldn't let it boot into BIOS. So, unknowingly I RMA'd the board (curse asus again). Board also had same quiet electrical noise.

P35-T2R #3: C1 error, worked around by picking up a cheapie 512mb stick of crucial rendition 667mhz with no EPP. Stick allowed me to get into the BIOS up DIMM voltages to 2.3v and boot in with my Mushkin sticks again. This board also has the same quiet noise.

Also, I've been reading up on first generation digital PWM and it seems one side effect is a slight (but normal) very quiet electrical noise. It isn't in a frequency that most people are able to hear and is not loud enough to hear through my Sennheiser HD555's so its not that big of a deal (tested people in my household as to who could hear the noise and only 3 of 5 could hear it standing at 4ft). All 3 of the boards had this slight noise - more so when the voltages are upped for overclocking.

So it turns out that all 3 P35-T2r's I've had have not actually needed to be RMA'd. The pickyness with some ram seems to be an issue, but if you follow recommendations of the thread and go for successful sticks like OCZ flex 9200 you will likely be fine.

[Praz]

There's no reason why DDR2 bought today should not boot in any P35 based board at default settings. If this is an issue, regardless of memory manufacturer, ask for a modified SPD.

[C-N]

Hi Cuhaos

While we are on the subject of RAM & PWM here are a few of my findings too.

C1 error, worked around by picking up a cheapie 512mb stick of crucial rendition 667mhz with no EPP. Stick allowed me to get into the BIOS up DIMM voltages to 2.3v and boot in with my Mushkin sticks again.

I have had this happen once with what I call normal use & maybe 3 times when I have been pushing it a bit hard. This sort of thing has happened on all C2D boards I have had & I have always got round it with a cheap stick of ram just like you have. I believe it is an accepted & relatively well know method.

Also, I've been reading up on first generation digital PWM and it seems one side effect is a slight (but normal) very quiet electrical noise. - more so when the voltages are upped for overclocking.

I also have this when the board is clocked up fairly high & its under load. I have also had too tighten the PWM heatsink bolts twice now as it appears the PWM heatsink is slowly sinking into the thermal compound & becoming loose. Before I tightened the PWM heatsink my board screamed pretty loud so perhaps this is something others should watch out for.

CN

[Seanie's Show]

I'd be very interested in seeing your results. I have just ordered 4x1gb of Ballistix 6400 to use with this board.

No need to pay the extra getting the PC2-6400 (800mhz), you could of saved some £££ and just brought the 667mhz stuff, they are all the same, they just use different SPD's, which if you have the know how are flashable, however, at the end of the day, you dont even need to flash them, these are major overclockable Micron D9 based moduals, in fact Crucial are Micron, everyone else with Micron Based Moduals have to buy the chips from Crucial/Micron, now known as Lexar Media.

Anyway I have 3gb across 4 sticks on this board of 667mhz stuff, currently running stable at 1081mhz 5-5-5-15 2T @ 2.15v and still yet to tweak my memory on this board.

PC2-5300 667mhz = 3-3-3-12
PC2-6400 800mhz = 4-4-4-12
PC2-8000 1000mhz=5-5-5-15

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[Solarfall]

hooray got my psu back from rma.. could not help myself i just had to try those cellshock sticks again with my e6700.. not bad but im sure that i can do better

[C-N]

Interesting comparison heres mine at about the same CPU/RAM speed.



CN.

[Brother Esau]

hooray got my psu back from rma.. could not help myself i just had to try those cellshock sticks again with my e6700.. not bad but im sure that i can do better

Yea but what Vdimm are you throwing at them please?

[MJRL]

Also, I've been reading up on first generation digital PWM and it seems one side effect is a slight (but normal) very quiet electrical noise. It isn't in a frequency that most people are able to hear and is not loud enough to hear through my Sennheiser HD555's so its not that big of a deal (tested people in my household as to who could hear the noise and only 3 of 5 could hear it standing at 4ft). All 3 of the boards had this slight noise - more so when the voltages are upped for overclocking.

Same problem here, in full load hi have a big pitch, mine its very audible.
I will put in default to try if it's only overclocked.