there is no matter (usually) in OC when we talk about server processors. The MBs doesn't cooperate, and the processor also do not help much. So, I would not expect to see OCs on those babies soon.
Unfortunatelly, of course...
there is no matter (usually) in OC when we talk about server processors. The MBs doesn't cooperate, and the processor also do not help much. So, I would not expect to see OCs on those babies soon.
Unfortunatelly, of course...
Not at all. If the server performance is what it is looking to be, AMD has the possibility of gaining more market share. Quite honestly, this is the sector where money is made. The consumer market obviously means a decent amount of cash, but the net profit per chip is drastically less. Oh, and overclocking means next to nothing for 99% of the consumer market, much less the business sector...Originally Posted by AbRASiON
gee....i've only stated THAT about 1000 times.Not at all. If the server performance is what it is looking to be, AMD has the possibility of gaining more market share. Quite honestly, this is the sector where money is made. The consumer market obviously means a decent amount of cash, but the net profit per chip is drastically less. Oh, and overclocking means next to nothing for 99% of the consumer market, much less the business sector...
you'd think they'd listen...
dave
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Rubbish, overclocking gives an indication of the head room of the CPU.Not at all. If the server performance is what it is looking to be, AMD has the possibility of gaining more market share. Quite honestly, this is the sector where money is made. The consumer market obviously means a decent amount of cash, but the net profit per chip is drastically less. Oh, and overclocking means next to nothing for 99% of the consumer market, much less the business sector...
If it's barely equivelant to the performance of a C2D chip - the ONLY WAY AMD will sell them is to cost them lower than intel or to hardcore enthusiasts.
This is how it works, this is how it has worked forever between intel and AMD
fie on your overclocking!!!
it actually now has less to do with headroom than anything. for example, how will you manage the split plane power delivery since the sources are not synchronous anymore?
hmmmm?
guaranteed that not a lot of big OEMs are going to spend the time oc'ing a chip on water, air, nitro, etc. to see "headroom." they're going to want X processor to run at the rated speed, 24x7x365 without error. overclocking, while somewhat useful in that regard, is a needless waste of time.
dave
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From a DESKTOP PERSPECTIVE, if the AMD CPU is the same speed as the intel C2D (finally!) at the same clock speed, the only way their CPU can be awesome is
A, it clocks much higher than intels offering
B, it costs a lot less.
This is how it's been for a while.
So is this an actual hard-launch or just the end of the NDA? To put it more bluntly, where's the freakin benchmarks???
Get the damn chips to someone other than Anandtech to test the heck out of em! Heck, I'll volunteer if needs be
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I think Dave has already all benchies he wants, and would be counting seconds to publish tit somewhere else and put the link here.
All points are very true, but you're waisting you time. 95% of your audience here has never thought about needing a server and more importantly thinks that their Overclocking world is all that's out there. No offense to anyone, I love to overclock, but what we do means very little to the real world. Anyway, I'm happy for AMD I'm sure they'll be able to keep thing interesting with their new cpu.
The processors are said to be available for purchase as of today. This does NOT mean Newegg, although the possibility of a drop in compatibility of these new processors might see a sharp increase in processor-alone purchases (rather than entirely new servers), but that is just a guess on my part.So is this an actual hard-launch or just the end of the NDA? To put it more bluntly, where's the freakin benchmarks???
Get the damn chips to someone other than Anandtech to test the heck out of em! Heck, I'll volunteer if needs be
I *guess* it will mean new egg in a few days.
or, maybe only "hope".
Well, there is "In Stock" at Newegg, and "In Stock at a reasonable price" at Newegg....
Its not looking good for you, Is it?From the benches I've been priveledged enough to see the results of (
pffffft wait and see. When someone here submits benches which we can rely upon then we'll know.
Well you already know remember
Clock 4 Clock, the K10 seems on par with Intels offerings. If they can get 2.6ghz+ out Phenom before Christmas, then I've probably found myself a new CPU.
Yes, but "then YOU"LL know" sounds a bit demeaning don't you think....I was being polite....don't try to be sarcastic about it.Well you already know remember
I take it you will still be holding by this statement?From the benches I've been priveledged enough to see the results of (
I was rooting for AMD.. but sorry guys, I'll stick with bang for buck and Intel for this generation
LOL? bang for the buck is stil AMD if you don't abuse your pc for 3D benches.
Not when I've got a Quadcore at 3.2GHz for a lousy $299
You kid yourself all you want but it's Intel easily
And yes I said the exact same about AMD when I had my Athlon 64.. I go where the value and power is
ROFL quadcore has no use now, and the only game it has some value is supcom, but only if you go uber high res.
and yeah 300$ dam cheap
Look at my specs clown, 26 inch monitor with Crysis being released in November and showing huge quady scaling.. no brainerROFL quadcore has no use now, and the only game it has some value is supcom, but only if you go uber high res.
and yeah 300$ dam cheap
And just in case you missed how badly AMD has been owned, here's a tidbit from Anandtech
"The Barcelona desktop line, the Phenom, should therefore fare better than K8 when competing with the Core 2. Nevertheless, an average increase of 14% will not be sufficient to surpass a Core 2 at equivalent frequencies, especially with the upcoming arrival of the Penryn which will have a surplus of performance compared to Core architecture."
GAME OVER!
lol, guys, i'm sorry of course, but maybe you'll stop arguing and wait for the benches? as for me, there are no real reasons to discuss how K10 performs, not even saying about deciding wheter are they an adequate purchase or not. How can you judge K10's performance while there - simply - are NO - TRUSTFUL - BENCHES - AVAILIABLE at the moment?
*points at Anandtech and Techreport*
ScythedBlade
I saw those. And i'd say that we all need more than only 2 reviews to get convinced that K10 is nothing good... or that it's definetly good.
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