Barcelona Launch Clock Speeds Changing?

[StealthyFish]

I don't think 2.2GHz will be enough to beat Penryn other than the lower clocked ones but that's me. Once AMD reaches near or to 3GHz barrier things might get interesting.

Oh and about the small clock increase... may look like nothing but it says a lot of how hard AMD's working on getting the clock speeds up. Seems like they are aware it's not gonna be enough or something otherwise I don't think they'd do such desperate attempts of improving the clock speeds.

Anyways it's good news if it's true.

Penryn's new high-k transister design is supposed to provide for 20% more efficiency, translating to better clock per wattage and also providing better performance in general. I dunno, but at 2.2ghz.. maybe AMD will release 3.0ghz? I think it's a little farfetched since if you really think about it, 3.0ghz is incredibly high binned for AMD already.. and to expect 4 cores to come out perfect like that is going to be hard. That exclusivity of that would push prices up pretty high for those 3.0ghz Phenoms. Intel's projecting 3.8Ghz wolfdales and I don't doubt them when they say that...

You still don't get it do ya'? You love to try and put down folks, especially those you don't agree with so that's nothing new, typical Fanboy schlock. It's not about what Rawks or not. I'm tagged as one of the biggest Intel Fanboys here, now show where I said AMD sucks?

I made a simple request, well, simple for some folks. If you want an exclusive AMD thread or conversation, leave Intel out of it and then there are fewer conflicts. If you can't stand being told something as obvious as C2D is Faster, then you have a personal problem.

No, if anyone is clueless here, it's you To solve this one, go to the Intel section and start a thread called "Intel's Smart L2 and Smart Memory Access is simply Pre-fetching" as you implied . I'll show you LOL! When all is said and done, the results are the only thing that matters. Again, shouldn't be in a thread about Barcelona launch speeds.

I don't know anything about Smart L2 and SMA, but you know... Intel's L2 and L3 cache latencies are very little. L2 has a latency of around 12 and their L3 has a latency of 14....... AMD's L2 has a latency of 18... and their L3 has a latency of around 30-40 something from what I've heard. I admit, I'm an intel fanboy, but even I would like to see atleast competing barcelona scores for benchmarks. I'm actually hoping all of these benchmarks, the superpi especially, is fake. 39 second 1mb is bad... my PD could beat that, but in all reality, AMD's chip doesn't sound very impressive, and the cache sizes and latencies would probably explain the super pi score. AMD's chips may have more L1, but they really can't compete against 8mb-12mb of 12 lat L2 cache....