**Official DFI LanParty UT P35-T2R Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Zolly]

Can somebody answer this please:

In the next week or so i want make my order on a G0 6600 + 2Gb Mushkin Xp2-6400 and i want to pair them up whit a Dfi P35, can somebody tell me if this set-up will work with my old psu a Hiper 480W http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=921&page=3
it has a 24 and a 4 pin aux conector not an 8 pin aux conector.

[ghent915]

Odds are you could MAKE it work. However, why would you want to? I'd spend the money on a better PSU first and foremost.

Why buy O/C components with just a decent PSU?
-Ghent

[ACE76]

I ordered this from Newegg...I hope it does better with quads than my Abit IP35-PRO does...it sems that DFI's own "transaction booster" doesn't work properly? Strange that they would include it when droop seemed quite minimal from what I've seen people in people's posts.

[Zolly]

Odds are you could MAKE it work. However, why would you want to? I'd spend the money on a better PSU first and foremost.

Why buy O/C components with just a decent PSU?
-Ghent

I will buy psu next month i just want to make it work till then.

[C-N]

I ordered this from Newegg...I hope it does better with quads than my Abit IP35-PRO does...it sems that DFI's own "transaction booster" doesn't work properly? Strange that they would include it when droop seemed quite minimal from what I've seen people in people's posts.

Slightly off topic but my IP35 Pro rocks with C2D & Quad what problems were you having?

Q6600 @ 3700MHz http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m...208%203700MHz/

E6600 @ 3760MHz http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m...208%203760MHz/

I just got the DFI last night hooked it up & within an hour ran 525 x 7 3D stable with my E6600 on the stock Intel Heatsink!!!

Although I could run 540fsb on the IP35 Pro it was not stable & would freeze in 3D (3DMARK01, 03 ,05 06 etc) so I think the DFI will definitely run higher fsb easier however it is atm (very early days) on auto timings & significantly slower than my ASUS P5K & Abit IP35 so its going to take a lot of tweaking

I also had problems with CPU-Z v 1.40.8 BETA so found v1.41.0 BETA which is reporting 1.536v @ idle with the vdroop thingy enabled in the BIOS, the actual vcore set in the BIOS is 1.50v so as you can see its not drooping much & as you are probably aware is considerably less droop than the IP35 Pro.

I have only played roughly for a few hours with the DFI but so far it looks to only droop 0.02-0.03v with light ish vcore (1.50) under load which is great.

CN

[emoners]

In the next week or so i want make my order on a G0 6600 + 2Gb Mushkin Xp2-6400 and i want to pair them up whit a Dfi P35, can somebody tell me if this set-up will work with my old psu a Hiper 480W http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=921&page=3
it has a 24 and a 4 pin aux conector not an 8 pin aux conector.

Try using the PSU calculator...coz i think IMO Quads need more than 480w power

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/p...ulatorlite.jsp

[Praz]

525FSB seems to be the sweet spot. If the processor is up to the task that speed can be done with default board voltages.

Vdroop is mislabeled in the BIOS. Disabled is actually enabled.

[cantankerous]

I finally got around to placing my order for my system last night. It includes the following:

DFI P35-T2R
Q6600
THERMALRIGHT ULTRA-120 EXTREME
MX-2 PASTE
4 X 1GB CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER PC2-8500
EVGA 8800 ULTRA

From my current setup I will be using the following with the new parts:

SILVERSTONE TEMJIN TJ-09BW CASE
SILVERSTONE DA750 PSU
PIONEER DVR-112 DVD/RW
2 X 150GB RAPTORS IN RAID 0
CREATIVE LABS X-FI FATALITY
AGEIA PHYSX PPU

An Antec Super Cyclone Blower will be placed under the 8800 Ultra, an Antec Spot Cool will be placed over the dimms and my Ultra 120 Extreme and rear exhaust will be Sanyo Denki San Ace 109R1212H1011 fans. I hope this system plays nice together and I have no build issues.

[Dihon]

The latest BIOS is better than others :

[jjk454ss]

Anyone have problems with 4 x 1GB of RAM? I am having problems with 4 sticks of G.Skill 800. I can run either set I have by itself, but if I try both it starts loading Windows and restarts.

[eva2000]

Anyone have problems with 4 x 1GB of RAM? I am having problems with 4 sticks of G.Skill 800. I can run either set I have by itself, but if I try both it starts loading Windows and restarts.

memtest86+ v1.70 is your friend and play with clk fine delay values as well.. but i have yet to test 4x1GB myself so not sure.

2:3 divider with 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 Micron D9GMH modules. DFI LP UT P35-T2R has very tight default performance level on 2:3 divider at Performance Level = 4! So be sure to have nice Micron D9xxx modules if you run Performance level = AUTO in bios

• 500mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.15v bios
• 535mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.27v bios
• 558mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.38v bios
• 564mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.42v bios

@500Mhz 4-4-4-9 at 2.15v









@558Mhz 4-4-4-9 at 2.38v



Single 32M



Dual 32M half way



Dual 32M complete



Everest Ultimate 4.10.1076 beta vs 4.10.1108 beta






@564Mhz 4-4-4-9 at 2.42v



Single 32M



Dual 32M half way



Dual 32M complete



Everest Ultimate

[jjk454ss]

memtest86+ v1.70 is your friend and play with clk fine delay values as well.. but i have yet to test 4x1GB myself so not sure.

2:3 divider with 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC2-8500 Micron D9GMH modules. DFI LP UT P35-T2R has very tight default performance level on 2:3 divider at Performance Level = 4! So be sure to have nice Micron D9xxx modules if you run Performance level = AUTO in bios

• 500mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.15v bios
• 535mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.27v bios
• 558mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.38v bios
• 564mhz 4-4-4-9 AUTO sub timings with AUTO Enhanced Data Transmit/Enhance Addressing at 2.42v bios

Thanks for the reply. You are not talking to an expert here though . I did take this memory from my old machine, and I did run memtest not to long ago because I was thinking of selling it. I don't think it is a problem with the memory. As far as clk fine delay values, I will try and find some info so I can learn what to change there. Thanks

Another question. I am trying to update the BIOS, I have no floppy so I tried the WinFlash program. When I try and run winflash.exe I get this message: OnBoard BIOS Not Award BIOS!, i clikc OK and it just closes. Am I doing something wrong?

[Praz]

As far as clk fine delay values, I will try and find some info so I can learn what to change there

DFI has done a good job with clk fine delay auto settings. To fine tune you won't need to adjust more then a couple of notches in either direction. So for I have found for most configurations the auto values are pretty much dead on.

[s0lid]

Man i want this mobo!
Omg FSBs

[jjk454ss]

My problems with this board were being caused from most incompatiability with Vista 64. I had to:

1. RMA my Enermax - because it was defective - and it was causing most of my problems
2. The BIOS needed to be updated to use 4GB's of RAM - wouldn't boot otherwise (updated to the 8/15 release)
3. Needed to update the SATA drivers to get it to detect my harddrives properly.

Besides that no other problems and things have seem to be running just fine with this board.

I haven't been able to update my BIOS without a floppy, and I am having the same problems as number 2. It won't boot with 4GB of RAM. Can someone explain how I can flash the BIOS without a floppy? I liked the option ASUS had to flash it in the BIOS off of a USB Drive.

[Praz]

The bios will flash from a USB drive just fine. During bootup press "escape" and choose the boot device as USB.

[RLM]

I haven't been able to update my BIOS without a floppy, and I am having the same problems as number 2. It won't boot with 4GB of RAM. Can someone explain how I can flash the BIOS without a floppy? I liked the option ASUS had to flash it in the BIOS off of a USB Drive.

A bit more detail on using a usb key for flashing your bios.

This is the method I use,

Download HP USB Disk storage utility. Download a DOS image (Links below) and unzip.

Insert USB driver. Run HP USB Disk storage utility and select the DOS option.When prompted for an image direct it to the downloaded dos image (win98boot)

Copy the files awdflash, autoexec and the bios bin file on to your usb.

Restart with key in and go to bios.

Note: Make sure machine is set back to stock settings before flashing

Ammend

As Praz suggested. Go into Advanced options. Go to Hard Disk Boot Priority and using the numeric + key, move your usb up to the the top (1st device).

RESTART.

Should then boot up and flash automatically.

Note: There are other methods, but this has worked for me

Links here:

HP USB Disk storage utility
http://www.freebsd.uwaterloo.ca/twik...ot/SP27608.exe

If I remember, this is the DOS Image I used.
http://www.dewassoc.com/download/Win98boot.zip

RLM

Note: It's a bit of a mission the first time, but once the usb key is done, it's an easy enough exercise for future bioses

[RLM]

I haven't been able to update my BIOS without a floppy, and I am having the same problems as number 2. It won't boot with 4GB of RAM. Can someone explain how I can flash the BIOS without a floppy? I liked the option ASUS had to flash it in the BIOS off of a USB Drive.

Just thinking about that 4gb issue. Given the fact the new bios 823 has separate CLK settings for each channel (4 of them instead of 2), that may well help.

RLM

[RLM]

Just a few benches.

Would like a better stepping q6600, but still pretty damn good

PCMark 05 Q6600 GO 445x9 1.6v in bios. Memory Geil 8500 cas4 4-4-4-9 5:6
(Note: Not prime stable)


3DMark 06 Q6600 GO 440x9 1.6v in bios. Memory Geil 8500 cas4 3-3-3-10 1:1
8800 GTX unmodded 660/1050
(Note: Not far of stable. Need to do more tests and tweaking)


445x9 PCMARK 05

CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 4005Mhz
CPU Clock: 445
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 333/800
- Target DRAM Speed: 1068
PCIE Clock: 100mhz

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.60000
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.52v(need to check)
SB 1.05V Voltage: 1.15v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.95v
NB Core Voltage: 1.61v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.60v
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.75v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 105
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 105
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- DIMM 1 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 3 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 CLK fine delay: Current

CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 4
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 9
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 35
Performance Level: AUTO (memset reads 6)
Read delay phase adjust: AUTO
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 13 (memset reads 12(-1))
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11 (memset reads 10(-1))
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO (memset reads 3)
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO (memset reads 8)
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 6)
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 6)
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 5)
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO (memset reads 3)
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO (memset reads 2)

PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

440x9 3DMARK 06

CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 3960Mhz
CPU Clock: 440
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 333/666 (1:1)
- Target DRAM Speed: 880
PCIE Clock: 100mhz

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.60000
CPU VID Special Add: AUTO
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.49v(Allowing for droop -0.05 idle a further -0.04 load)
SB 1.05V Voltage: 1.15v
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.95v
NB Core Voltage: 1.61v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.60v
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.75v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 105
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 105
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- DIMM 1 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 3 CLK fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 CLK fine delay: Current

CAS Latency Time (tCL): 3
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 3
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 3
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 10
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 35
Performance Level: AUTO
Read delay phase adjust: AUTO
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 12 (memset reads 11(-1))
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 10 (memset reads 9(-1))
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 2
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO (memset reads 8)
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 6)
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 6)
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO (tends to default I believe at 5)
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO (memset reads 3)
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO (memset reads 2)

PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

RLM

[Praz]

If for some reason configuring the BIOS is preferred over using the "escape" key on this board there's not much to it. Boot with the USB key connected. In the BIOS go to boot order. Highlight the USB device. Using the + key move it to the top. Save Bios and reboot.

[RLM]

If for some reason configuring the BIOS is preferred over using the "escape" key on this board there's not much to it. Boot with the USB key connected. In the BIOS go to boot order. Highlight the USB device. Using the + key move it to the top. Save Bios and reboot.

The escape key, sounds a lot easier. Just wasn't familiar with it. Will try that one myself

[Strafe]

Anyone have problems with 4 x 1GB of RAM? I am having problems with 4 sticks of G.Skill 800. I can run either set I have by itself, but if I try both it starts loading Windows and restarts.

If you are using Vista64, there is a hotfix that needs to be applied before you can use more than 3GB, otherwise it will BSOD on startup. I do beleive you also have to update the BIOS as well because I have applied the patch and now the BSOD I get says the bios is not acpi compliant.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777

[EternityZX9]

Anyone have problems with 4 x 1GB of RAM? I am having problems with 4 sticks of G.Skill 800. I can run either set I have by itself, but if I try both it starts loading Windows and restarts.

Update the BIOS. I had the same problem. That fixed it.

[EternityZX9]

Thanks for the reply. You are not talking to an expert here though . I did take this memory from my old machine, and I did run memtest not to long ago because I was thinking of selling it. I don't think it is a problem with the memory. As far as clk fine delay values, I will try and find some info so I can learn what to change there. Thanks

Another question. I am trying to update the BIOS, I have no floppy so I tried the WinFlash program. When I try and run winflash.exe I get this message: OnBoard BIOS Not Award BIOS!, i clikc OK and it just closes. Am I doing something wrong?

I would recomment getting a floppy to update the BIOS...

[Strafe]

I am trying to update the BIOS, I have no floppy so I tried the WinFlash program. When I try and run winflash.exe I get this message: OnBoard BIOS Not Award BIOS!, i clikc OK and it just closes. Am I doing something wrong?

Winflash doesnt work in Vista64. Use the USB flash drive method explained by RLM above (thanks for that by the way RLM!)