Official HD 2900 Discussion Thread

[DilTech]

Any card is very good in 3dmark 2006 and then suck in games.
There is no game with the efects of 3dmark2006. When games came with those efects of the 3dmarks the 2900 XT can invert things....

In heavy/intensive tasks that is the future of gaming and the 2900XT can take the lead. Can also take the lead in DX_10.

When games come out with the effects from 3dmark?... You did know games have come out using similar/the same shaders, right? Far Cry used shaders found in GT3 and GT4 of 3dmark03, as anyone who had a 9800pro/xt when cat 3.8 came out will remember from the block shadows indoors on far cry. F.e.a.r. uses a lot of the shaders found in 05's GT1, and oblivion uses a lot of shaders found in 03, 05, and 06.

Personally I don't put stock in any of the 3dmarks. I'd rather take it for a whirl through actual games.

As for the future...we'll see, but I know I wouldn't buy a card based upon the assumption of power in the future when currently it loses. You could be right, but I'm not holding my breath on that happening at all. We'll see when the time comes, that much is for sure, but for now I really wouldn't hold your breath.

[mascaras]

Not really lol, go to tweakers.net and see those Farcry screenshots from the PU review. j/k

We'll see, overclocking should indeed be fun.

yep in FAR CRY allk reviews say its not good ( driver issue??) but i also see good performence in some games like FEAR& PREY

in the "gone" review in FEAR >> X2900 (+-) = 8800GTX


regards

[DilTech]

yep in FAR CRY allk reviews say its not good ( driver issue??) but i also see good performence in some games like FEAR& PREY

in the "gone" review in FEAR >> X2900 (+-) = 8800GTX


regards

19 frames at 1600x1200 with 4xAA is +- the 8800gtx?

[fornowagain]

19 frames at 1600x1200 with 4xAA is +- the 8800gtx?

3x times that, "Gone" said Fear was XT 75% vs GTX @ 1600x1200 4AA16AF

[DilTech]

3x times that, "Gone" said Fear was XT 75% vs GTX @ 1600x1200 4AA16AF

I meant 19 frames less than the 8800GTX, not 19 frames per second total.

[fornowagain]

I meant 19 frames less than the 8800GTX, not 19 frames per second total.

Then we agree

[Arpus]

First his hd 2900 xt photos in spain.
http://www.hardspain.com/index.php?o...id=62&Itemid=2

[perkam]

First his hd 2900 xt photos in spain.
http://www.hardspain.com/index.php?o...id=62&Itemid=2

Standard HDMI to DVI connector with every HD card FTW !!

Perkam

[DilTech]

Standard HDMI to DVI connector with every HD card FTW !!

Perkam

Did anyone ever figure out if it actually is passing audio through the dvi-hdmi connector? I've been curious about that, since I don't see where, or how, it'd be able to do that.

Just wondering.

[mascaras]

19 frames at 1600x1200 with 4xAA is +- the 8800gtx?

ate 1600 x1200 you´r right ( for first drivers i dont think its bad)


FEAR 1024 x768 No AA No AF


X2900XT = 147 FPS

8800GTS = 137 FPS

7900GTX = 99 FPS





FEAR 1280x1024 2x AA 8x AF


8800GTX = 125 FPS

X2900XT = 109 FPS

7900GTX = 85 FPS



FEAR 1600x1200 4X AA 16x AF

8800GTX = 79 FPS

X2900XT = 60 FPS

7900GTX = 47 FPS



btw: i already saw X2900XT for 350€

there are a few dutch guys who are under NDA, and have allways been reliable.
Hacku on tweakers.net forum posted this:, thnx Hacku



FarCry 1.4 SM3 HDR [1280x1024]
- 8800 GTX: 123.3 fps
- 2900 XT: 119.3 fps
- 8800 GTS: 106.2 fps
- X1950XT: 85.8 fps

FarCry 1.4 SM3 HDR [1920x1200 - 4x AA 8x AF]
- 8800 GTX: 76.7 fps
- 2900 XT: 70.2 fps
- 8800 GTS: 54 fps
- X1950XT: 50.1 fps

Prey [1280x1024]
- 8800 GTX: 184.3 fps
- 2900 XT: 131.2 fps
- 8800 GTS: 127.3 fps
- X1950XT: 117.6 fps

Prey [1920x1200 - 4x AA 8x AF]
- 8800 GTX: 89.9 fps
- 2900 XT: 70.5 fps
- 8800 GTS: 65.5 fps
- X1950XT: 55 fps

Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory SM3 HDR [1280x1024]
- 2900 XT: 142.5 fps
- 8800 GTX: 131.7 fps
- X1950XT: 94.2 fps
- 8800 GTS: 94 fps

Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory SM3 HDR [1600x1200 - 4x AA 8x AF]
- 8800 GTX: 85.6 fps
- 2900 XT: 86.5 fps
- 8800 GTS: 68.5 fps
- X1950XT: 64.7 fps

X3: The Reunion [1280x1024]
- 2900 XT: 118.5 fps
- 8800 GTX: 99.2 fps
- X1950XT: 97 fps
- 8800 GTS: 88.1 fps

X3: The Reunion [1920x1200 - 4x AA 8x AF]
- 8800 GTX: 74 fps
- X1950XT: 65.4 fps
- 8800 GTS: 58.8 fps
- 2900 XT: 56.5 fps

Recentere games:

Company of Heroes [1280x1024]
- 8800 GTX: 142.5 fps
- 2900 XT: 121.4 fps

Company of Heroes [1920x1200 - 4x AA 8x AF]
- 8800 GTX: 75.8 fps
- 2900 XT: 69.5 fps

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. [1280x1024]
- 8800 GTX: 107.8 fps
- 2900 XT: 96.2 fps

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. [1920x1200 - 4x AA 8x AF]
- 8800 GTX: 87 fps
- 2900 XT: 46.9 fps

regards

[Zero]

And? Did the DX9 cards perform alot better in DX9 than DX8/8.1? Did the DX8 cards perform better in DX8 than DX7? And so on...

The "faster in DX10" is a desperate hope...

i think that gf2 ultra was faster than gf3 in most dx7 games XD

[DataNusse]

i think that gf2 ultra was faster than gf3 in most dx7 games XD

No. At list not with 32bit color.

[Shintai]

Did anyone ever figure out if it actually is passing audio through the dvi-hdmi connector? I've been curious about that, since I don't see where, or how, it'd be able to do that.

Just wondering.

It would be impossible, unless they break the DVI standard on the port(s) they want to use for it.

[GLENBOY]

still confused over the 8 pin pcie power connector i have heard that an adapter will be included with the cards to plug 2 6x pin pcie connectors to one 8 pin pcie connector , i have looked all over the uk and no-one stocks these adapters themselves anybody have any insight on this, also i have a tagan 1100 psu and that has one 8 pin power connector is that the same or is it a different type

[Zero]

if you conect 2x6 pin to the 8 pin one, what do you plug to the 6 pin one ? or are there PSUs with 4 6 pin conectors ?

[GLENBOY]

yes the tagan 1100 has 4 x 6 pin pcie connectors so in theory you could if you had 2 of these cards in crossfire use 2 x 6 pin pcie cables into an adaptot to plug into the 8 pin pcie power input on the card and then use a 4 pin molex plugged into an 6 pin pcie adapter and put that into the 6 pin pcie connector, god that was confusing

[saaya]

[fornowagain]

It would be impossible, unless they break the DVI standard on the port(s) they want to use for it.

How about an interleaved digital stream, no additional pins are required. Say it starts in a normal DVI mode, detects an HDMI connection and feeds the audio over the extra bandwidth

[onethreehill]

Quick test on new ATI new GC
http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1607936

ok dokey. upon request by many.......

compare the 8800GTS 640Mb from Leadtek as comparison.......

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showp...9&postcount=33

[grudgelord]

It would be impossible, unless they break the DVI standard on the port(s) they want to use for it.

Not necesarily. Silicon Image developed some chips which were supposedly capable of passing audio without violating the DVI 1.0 standard. I would have thought that this would require a revision of the spec but there might be a provision for transmitting additional data over the link. DVI does pass enough bandwidth to permit this so I suppose they could have allowed for expansion in the spec draft.

[Baron]

Not sure if these have been posted.


http://www.zomp.net/shop/product_inf...ucts_id=441388

http://www.lambda-tek.com/components...prodID=1379079

£258.98 inc. VAT ASUS EAH2900XT/G/HTVDI/512MB PCIe RADEON

[fornowagain]

Not sure if these have been posted.


http://www.zomp.net/shop/product_inf...ucts_id=441388

http://www.lambda-tek.com/components...prodID=1379079

£258.98 inc. VAT ASUS EAH2900XT/G/HTVDI/512MB PCIe RADEON

There's 4 I can find, the 2 big ones (MORE/Lambdatek) are the same firm and they always post the cards price pre-NDA and then put the price up on the day. I wouldn't put to much faith in that price.

[Tim]

Good price, but expect GTS to drop way below that, scan.co.uk has the GTS for £214 inc VAT. That's a very good price.

[mascaras]

new driver for x2900 OUT , they talk about + 10%-30% performence



regards

[cantankerous]

30% more performance in what? Games or just more 3DMark?