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    so there is a 1g XT after all.. wonder how much performance lead it has above the 512 card.. bring on the cards :p

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    i reckon ATI is in bed with Dell with the 1GB cards for exclusivity dropped pants it seems
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bounc3y View Post
    so there is a 1g XT after all.. wonder how much performance lead it has above the 512 card.. bring on the cards :p
    Doubt much in most cases. THe few it might help out a little but its not like we'll be seeing them, let alone fitting at least a stock one into our typical cases.
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    Yea disregard my post on the differences....:p

    Kinc has already stated that members using watercooling will be awarded an above average increase in overclocks compared to those on air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Yea disregard my post on the differences....:p

    Kinc has already stated that members using watercooling will be awarded an above average increase in overclocks compared to those on air.

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    meaning it runs hot as

    problem with todays cards is that you need those ridiculous looking full blocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post

    problem with todays cards is that you need those ridiculous looking full blocks
    Name one besides nvidia dual gpu card that needs full cover block where just gpu waterblock with ramsinks was not sufficient.

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    i dont understand how u gets get 64 TMU, when most sites says 32 ...

    http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...g80-part1.html
    NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX - 768MB GDDR3, 575/1350/1800 MHz, 128 unified processors/32 TMUs/24 ROPs - $599;
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid.../gb8800_5.html
    So, the G80 contains a total of 32 TMUs each of which is designed like follows:
    and wiki
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ocessing_Units

    i dunno maybe u multiply by 2 b/c it has larger bus?? anyone?

    and yeah if G80 has twice the TMU, then at lower clock speed 575 , it should outperform R600's 32TMU @ 730, besides it has 24 ROP vs R600's 16 ROP ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    meaning it runs hot as

    problem with todays cards is that you need those ridiculous looking full blocks
    and expansive, too ... older GPU's waterblock used to be around 50 to 80.. now G80's waterblocks r 110+ ...
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    hmm, most companies put women on their graphics cards....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mion View Post
    Name one besides nvidia dual gpu card that needs full cover block where just gpu waterblock with ramsinks was not sufficient.
    you don't have to but RAMsinks fall off and you need to use fans on top >> most people find it more conventient >> i have a MCW60 on the way and have some RAM sinks so i don't mind but not sure how other people are about this
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    Radeon HD 2950XTX comes in Q3

    R650 is the Radeon HD 2950XTX

    ATI hasn't launched the R600 yet and it is already planning its next launch of a die shrinked version. It won't be launching the 1024 MB graphics card until Q3. It plans to launch the R650 chip and brand it as Radeon HD 2950XTX, 1024 MB GDDR4.

    The chip is called R650 and it is a 65 nanometre core, how convenient. With this new chip ATI might have a fighting chance against the Geforce 8800 Ultra, but the real question is what will Nvidia have at that time.

    The cards are scheduled for late Q3, so you should expect them to arrive in August or September, unless they get postponed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanborn View Post
    Radeon HD 2950XTX comes in Q3

    R650 is the Radeon HD 2950XTX

    ATI hasn't launched the R600 yet and it is already planning its next launch of a die shrinked version. It won't be launching the 1024 MB graphics card until Q3. It plans to launch the R650 chip and brand it as Radeon HD 2950XTX, 1024 MB GDDR4.

    The chip is called R650 and it is a 65 nanometre core, how convenient. With this new chip ATI might have a fighting chance against the Geforce 8800 Ultra, but the real question is what will Nvidia have at that time.

    The cards are scheduled for late Q3, so you should expect them to arrive in August or September, unless they get postponed.


    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=871&Itemid=1
    I doubt this...Nvidia won't have anything to compete against this until g90/g100 which is q1 2008 at the earliest.

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    2900XL confirmed in June for 279$

    Radeon HD 2900 XL in late June

    $279 card


    R600 will have even more iterations and the cheaper version of the chip called XL is scheduled for late June.

    We don’t have many details about the specification but we know that it should cost around $279 and be a direct competitor of the Geforce 8800 GTS 320 cards.

    The Radeon HD 2900XL comes with a 512 MB of memory.

    http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...872&Item id=1


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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    Yea disregard my post on the differences....:p

    Kinc has already stated that members using watercooling will be awarded an above average increase in overclocks compared to those on air.

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    i hope they have the same mounting holes as the x1900s then i can just swap it over or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by theteamaqua View Post
    i dont understand how u gets get 64 TMU, when most sites says 32 ...

    http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/...g80-part1.html


    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid.../gb8800_5.html


    and wiki
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ocessing_Units

    i dunno maybe u multiply by 2 b/c it has larger bus?? anyone?

    and yeah if G80 has twice the TMU, then at lower clock speed 575 , it should outperform R600's 32TMU @ 730, besides it has 24 ROP vs R600's 16 ROP ...
    G80 has 32TMUs, each with 2 Texture Filtering Units and 1 Texture Address Unit (2:1 ratio).
    R600 will probably have 32TMUs with just 1 Texture Filtering Unit (1:1 ratio, jst like G84/G86).

    ROPs are not really important. GeForce 6600 had only 4 ROPs against 6800Ultra with it's 16 ROPs and didn't show any weakness.
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    X2900XT have Hynix 1.0ns (same as x1950XT 256mb )


























    http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=152864








    the x1950xt 256mb i had could run ~2100mhz @ stokvolts




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    Quote Originally Posted by mascaras View Post
    X2900XT have Hynix 1.0ns (same as x1950XT 256mb )






    the x1950xt 256mb i had could run 2100mhz @ stokvolts



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    Ah nice. That should be an easy clock to 2000Mhz at least.
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    How is R650 going to be named 2950XTX or
    2900XTX PE that would be a nice name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deathman20 View Post
    Ah nice. That should be an easy clock to 2000Mhz at least.

    they are rated 2.0ghz (1.0ns)


    hynix 1.0ns of X1950XT 256mb can run 2100mhz








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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    I doubt this...Nvidia won't have anything to compete against this until g90/g100 which is q1 2008 at the earliest.

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    I predict Nvidia launches an interim product this summer that is 80nm with 160 stream processors and over 700MHz core with the 2500MHz memory from the Ultra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
    I doubt this...Nvidia won't have anything to compete against this until g90/g100 which is q1 2008 at the earliest.

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    And for how long did they not have any competition?

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    the pic of the card above on coolalers thread looks like a 1 gb card rather than a 512mb card as the ram chips are on both the underside and upperside








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    I'm looking at these cards from a crunchers point of view, as well as a gamers point of view. So I wonder if there'll be a platform out that lets us run these cards in crossfire with the upcoming AgenaFX S1207 CPUs (I dont see nVidia being too happy about crossfire working on their 680a chipset on the current QuadFX mobo). That way theres a lot of folding power in 1 box when FAH gets around to making a GPU client for the 2900s
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLENBOY View Post
    the pic of the card above on coolalers thread looks like a 1 gb card rather than a 512mb card as the ram chips are on both the underside and upperside

    [-IMG]http://ialan12.myweb.hinet.net/MSI2900xt/MSI2900XT-12.JPG[/IMG]

    [-IMG]http://ialan12.myweb.hinet.net/MSI2900xt/MSI2900XT-16.JPG[/IMG]
    For the 512bit interface, you need chips on both sides. So it may still be 512MB (not saying it is). Also, for 1GB they could be using denser chips.

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