Official HD 2900 Discussion Thread

**cadaveca** · 05-04-2007, 08:23 AM

Why I've been saying blackbox was included...forget Fuad!!!

Extra game outside blackbox that is included is DOD: Source.

http://www.steampowered.com/activateATI/

**GMX** · 05-04-2007, 08:27 AM

Let's see how long it will last on a heavy overclock all round (cpu, ram, gpu) on a 500w...

$20 on a month.

**aMp** · 05-04-2007, 08:36 AM

True, Source-based games might not show off the best DX10 capabilities of the card, but I think the point is make an attractive bundle (possibly because the card itself isn't the best performer) and they succeeded there. You can bet your ass every gamer and his momma will be in the market for Ep.2.

**insurgent** · 05-04-2007, 09:00 AM

There is a catch in 2D mode temperature will be about 58 Celsius almost all the time. In 3Dmode R600 chip heats up to average 68.4 or in worst case scenario 71.3 degrees Celsius.

In closed case the situation gets even worst so you can expect even more than 82 Degrees Celsius close to 100 degrees that we originally reported.

that would be a stupidly lame case if the worst case is 71.3c open air then approaching close to 100c when inside. they must've covered all exhaust/vents.

**Shintai** · 05-04-2007, 09:09 AM

82C...holy nuts. There should be warnings all over the card.

The PSU requirement is scary. If so, it would cost more in electricity than the card after a year if 24/7 gaming.

Im happy about AMD stated this would be the highest power consumption one and the next generations will be lower.

naokaji · 05-04-2007, 09:12 AM

i just hope that watercoolers that fit the 2900 xt will be avalaible very fast after said card launches.... i don't want to wait aslong again as back then with the x1800xt supernoise

**Mikesnav** · 05-04-2007, 09:38 AM

I want it

**deathman20** · 05-04-2007, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Shintai

82C...holy nuts. There should be warnings all over the card.

Um todays cards can hit 82C no problems. X1900's, 8800's. Its not like its a new thing.

**Shintai** · 05-04-2007, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by deathman20

Um todays cards can hit 82C no problems. X1900's, 8800's. Its not like its a new thing.

Hopefully not on the outside of the heatsink.

**cadaveca** · 05-04-2007, 10:03 AM

yeah if heatsink is that hot, component in much hotter

100c is truly believable seeing that, except that I could point sensor @ boiling water, quickly move it to card, and then snap pic, if i really wanted to show card @ high temps.

**mascaras** · 05-04-2007, 10:05 AM

who buy a x2900xt have 4 valve games FREE

http://www.steampowered.com/activateATI/

- Day of Defeat Source
- HL2: Episode 2
- Team Fortress 2
- Portal

:thumbsup:

**cadaveca** · 05-04-2007, 10:07 AM

lol look 10 posts up!

**bloodbanger** · 05-04-2007, 10:20 AM

so you need to download those games?Damned,there goes my download-limit

**LowRun** · 05-04-2007, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Sampsa

PS. 1000/1000 MHz clock speeds at techPowerUp!'s screenshot are pretty modest

Originally Posted by perkam

I imagine the part being modest there is the ram clocks...don't think the gpu can go that much higher at 80nm...

Perkam

Originally Posted by Kinc

Think again

Now i now why i wan't one

**DilTech** · 05-04-2007, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by LowRun

Now i now why i wan't one

Hope you got LN2 if you want to attempt clocks like that...

**LowRun** · 05-04-2007, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by DilTech

Hope you got LN2 if you want to attempt clocks like that...

Time will tell what is needed for that kind of clocks, you're just speculating there as usual

**Hicks** · 05-04-2007, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by DilTech

Then again, it's the source engine... Why on earth you'd use the source engine to show new hardware I'm not quite sure, but the source engine is quite obviously outdated. Even with it's little upgrades.

Theres still not a better all round engine, with performance like that, out there.

**sky** · 05-04-2007, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by cadaveca

yeah if heatsink is that hot, component in much hotter

100c is truly believable seeing that, except that I could point sensor @ boiling water, quickly move it to card, and then snap pic, if i really wanted to show card @ high temps.

ya know.. a x1900xt got pretty hot with just the stock heatsink, the mosfets,
idk. i think according to rivatuners monitoring bit got to well into the 70's (°C)
at stock speeds. so adding a fan to blow towards the mosfets, open end of
the heatsink was mandatory. even today with a ek-waterblock on it, i still have
the 120 fan in place, slower these days, but still. now the temps are in check,
but give it the beans and you'll get 60°C no fuzz - watercooled. so a new card
using way more power than the old generation, i most certainly would expect
to hit these temps. - remember the 6800 series? with the flimsy 1 slot coolers?
they got those temps too, easy.

**cantankerous** · 05-04-2007, 11:06 AM

It is seeming to me that different manufacturers are giving their cards out with slightly different clocks. The HIS was to be released with 750/850 and Asus above is saying 757/828. I know the differences are much but if this is so I hope we can flash the card with a new bios shortly after release if a certain manufacturer offers a higher clocked bios out of the box. All the card are probably reference so it shouldn't be a problem. If this is the case it would be really good if certain manufacturers were charging more for cards with higher clocks than others. We can get the cheapest OEM and then just flash.

Has anyone heard if any OEM (non retail boxed) cards will be available or will they all be retail boxed? I know Sapphire had boxless OEM x1900 when they came out but also noticed that Nvidia never sells cards that aren't retail boxes, or am I wrong on this?

**Caparroz** · 05-04-2007, 11:14 AM

What happened to the "8800gtx OCed vs. 2900xt OCed = 8800gtx rapes 2900xt" kind of thread? I clicked on it but i had a no permission warning then the thread got deleted.

Has it something to do with Sampsa saying "people revealling all the details before NDA lift" or was it just old news, ie. DT benchmarks?

**alexio** · 05-04-2007, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Hicks

Theres still not a better all round engine, with performance like that, out there.

Unreal Engine 2?

**grudgelord** · 05-04-2007, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Caparroz

What happened to the "8800gtx OCed vs. 2900xt OCed = 8800gtx rapes 2900xt" kind of thread? I clicked on it but i had a no permission warning then the thread got deleted.

Has it something to do with Sampsa saying "people revealling all the details before NDA lift" or was it just old news, ie. DT benchmarks?

That tends to happen when the thread gets moved to a different section. Try doing a search and you'll probably find the thread has been moved.

**Scimitar** · 05-04-2007, 11:26 AM

Denny has the card, and posted some results.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=143104

**XeRo** · 05-04-2007, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Scimitar

Denny has the card, and posted some results.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=143104

I must be missing something the card has 1GB of Gddr4, but is called the XT. So there will be two SKUs of XT?

**CBONE** · 05-04-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Caparroz

What happened to the "8800gtx OCed vs. 2900xt OCed = 8800gtx rapes 2900xt" kind of thread? I clicked on it but i had a no permission warning then the thread got deleted.

Has it something to do with Sampsa saying "people revealling all the details before NDA lift" or was it just old news, ie. DT benchmarks?

Shhhhhhh! We're not talking about that thread anymore! Weren't you at the meeting??!!!!?!

j/k

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