Cebit 2007

**NightCrawler™** · 03-15-2007, 09:48 AM

I bet he tried to detach that fan blade once while it was still spinning looking at his finger... LOL

So.... can anyone explain why Fugger doesn't look like the guy in his avatar...? Talk about a bummer...

**Jamesrt2004** · 03-15-2007, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

I read that, Fugger said it was his Cascade.....not that it was him.

Seems to me that this is Fugger, IIRC... Definitely not the same guy with the Glasses in this thread

Don't prove me wrong

lol

**mascaras** · 03-15-2007, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by mascaras

Originally Posted by w0mbat

some guy said this is not R600 , its a RV630 model diferent (faster) from the standard RV630 model and needs diferent PCB and double slot cooling .

regards

yep , seems like my friend was right , its not R600 its the RV630XT :

CeBIT : RV630XT, RV630 & RV610 Cards Spotted

w0mbat in our forums has something nice for us again and this time round he brought us RV630 and RV610 cards. There are some misconceptions that the top card is a R600XT card, which is in fact a RV630XT card. It has 128-bit memory interface and supports GDDR4 in 256/512MB configurations. It requires an additional 6-pin power.

RV630 on the other hand has 128-bit memory interface as well and supports 256MB GDDR2 memories. No additional power is required.

As our sources revealed that RV630XT will score over 12K in 3DMark05 which is in fact faster than a X1900 XTX card. As for RV610, you can check out our previous article for its details and performance.

http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4795

CeBIT :AMD Might Opt 65nm For R600

wombat reported from our forums that ATi might opted for 65nm process technology for R600.

According to the source article with some translation over at Rage3D mentioned that senior officials from AMD informing their partners that AMD-ATi Tech Day for R600 will be held 16 days from now. R600 will be formally announced in six weeks after that date in early May. According to some rumors, AMD hopes to employ 65nm process for making R600 chips. The reason is that yield rate for R600 at 80nm process is not high and facing leakage problems.

http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4796

R600 9.5 inches at Cebit

CEBIT 2007: No pictures allowed!

No pictures allowed

We had a chance to see the R600 but no pictures allowed. If we pictured it DAAMIT would know that we took it at one of the Add in Boards partners and these guys would get in trouble.

We saw a new demo of Ruby, and it looks cool, renders the fur really well. The board has two PCIe power connectors and it looks a bit like Geforce 8800 GTX. It is red and the cooler looks similar to one on G80.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=147&Itemid=1

**Super strokey** · 03-15-2007, 10:18 AM

Im glad i ordered my 832 and its on its way to me, the new coolermaster cases dont really look that nice to me

**blind_ripper** · 03-15-2007, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by RyderOCZ

I read that, Fugger said it was his Cascade.....not that it was him.

Seems to me that this is Fugger, IIRC... Definitely not the same guy with the Glasses in this thread

and this:

hehe my mistake m8

**mascaras** · 03-15-2007, 10:42 AM

CeBIT: AMD speaks about R600

Received by AMD, we believed there until the end. When we penetrated in a flanked room of a poster “NDA” we were persuaded that it would be there. And well not. Many times announced R600 and very as many time deferred was not there, finally almost, as explained Vijay Sharma, Product to us Manager of R600 at AMD.

Hello Vijay. We thought of seeing R600, is it there?
Hello. Yes R600 is well here in CeBIT. It is presented in NDA (agreement of nondisclosure) at some of our partners. It is not visible for general public, nor for the press, but our trade partners have it already and can present it at their customers.

And for us will people of the press, when be you he visible?
He will be presented at the press at the end of April/during May at the time of an official presentation under NDA. The date and the exact place of this event are not defined yet, but that will not be in Amsterdam (note: AMD cancelled there is a few days the official presentation of R600 which was to be held in Amsterdam at the beginning of week).

And for the public?
The public will see with blow on of R600 everywhere in Computex which will take place in June since it will be launched during May.

One spoke about a problem of PCB with memory GDDR4. You confirm?
Well on that not. There is no concern, these rumours are nonfounded. R600 functions very well.

This don't CeBIT was the occasion to present it, why do it not?
We wish to develop a complete range around R600. Today, the range and all that goes around are not finalized. We will launch R600 at the same time as all the range of charts which use it.

Will AMD announced a revision with the fall of its sales for the current year, R600 be the product which will save AMD?
We hope for it and let us be persuaded of it. The processor for Barcelona waiter will be well launched this summer. The version general public Agena will be launched second half of 2007. All these innovations will show the capacities of AMD to be dissociated in this market. There is not only R600.

Compared to the solution of NVIDIA, which will give the R600 in terms of performances?
You will be surprised…

And the price?
I know it, but of course, I can nothing say to you.

Thank you Vijay

AMD received us and let us thank we them. We would have however liked to know some a little more. R600 is not there. There exists can be certainly, but we saw it, nobody besides, and the answers brought to our questions seem to be given in order to save time.

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

regards

**Super strokey** · 03-15-2007, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by mascaras

regards

So does this mean that we wont be seeing at all? Cause im not sure if the translation came through right but it sounds to me like we wont see the r600 at all till like may... prehaps i read to fast or wrong but if so that really really sucks. Sounds to me like dammit isnt sure of who well it will perform at all.

**mascaras** · 03-15-2007, 10:52 AM

it means that in CEBIT the R600 It is not visible for general public or for the press, only for "VIP´s"
:

once again:

R600 9.5 inches at Cebit

CEBIT 2007: No pictures allowed!

No pictures allowed

We had a chance to see the R600 but no pictures allowed. If we pictured it DAAMIT would know that we took it at one of the Add in Boards partners and these guys would get in trouble.

We saw a new demo of Ruby, and it looks cool, renders the fur really well. The board has two PCIe power connectors and it looks a bit like Geforce 8800 GTX. It is red and the cooler looks similar to one on G80.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...d=147&Itemid=1

more details here (X2900XT GDDR3 on 17 april , X2900XTX GDDR4 maybe 65nm , ......) >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=538

regards

**cadaveca** · 03-15-2007, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Super strokey

So does this mean that we wont be seeing at all? Cause im not sure if the translation came through right but it sounds to me like we wont see the r600 at all till like may... prehaps i read to fast or wrong but if so that really really sucks. Sounds to me like dammit isnt sure of who well it will perform at all.

You would be too, if you decided to ditch TSMC and make them(GPU's) yourself. Stupid buggers. I've been saying the same for a long time TSMC is nvidia's right-hand man! LOL. Leakage issue. AGAIN!?!

How stupid is that?

R520...leakage @ specific gate. Gpu would have stomped on nV's solution, had it come out in time.
R420...

...um..same issue? What happened to once bitten, twice shy? AMD is losing more respect than they think!

**XS Janus** · 03-15-2007, 10:59 AM

AMD and his "rules" = Stupid, boring, irritating

If that's the only way the know how to build hype... then they need to hire new staff...
________
LovelyWendie99

**irev210** · 03-15-2007, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by NightCrawler™

I bet he tried to detach that fan blade once while it was still spinning looking at his finger... LOL

hahahahhahaa man that is funny stuff

**VulgarHandle** · 03-15-2007, 11:28 AM

We saw a new demo of Ruby, and it looks cool, renders the fur really well. The board has two PCIe power connectors and it looks a bit like Geforce 8800 GTX. It is red and the cooler looks similar to one on G80.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...147&Item id=1

lol, fur eh, sounds like a good demo

**w0mbat** · 03-15-2007, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by VulgarHandle

lol, fur eh, sounds like a good demo

Originally Posted by w0mbat

**bloodbanger** · 03-15-2007, 11:35 AM

are there already known prices for those Commogores?And to they have to pay some kind of patent-money for using all those drawings they use on their cases(atleast the drawings from the games??)If so,i bet they already are bankrupt before they even sell one machine,lol

**xs64** · 03-15-2007, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by mascaras

it means that in CEBIT the R600 It is not visible for general public or for the press, only for "VIP´s"
:

once again:

more details here (X2900XT GDDR3 on 17 april , X2900XTX GDDR4 maybe 65nm , ......) >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=538

regards

According to respond from AMD , i guess i am not a VIP , End-users are not VIPs ?

How about AMD give some pictures of sample board R600 and says : "This R600 is under NDA and we could not talk much about its performance now" That's all i want from AMD/ATI.

**syne_24** · 03-15-2007, 11:45 AM

Any other cases sighting? Temjin 10!? It's a little dissapointing in this department.

**w0mbat** · 03-15-2007, 11:47 AM

R600 Watercooler

**CBONE** · 03-15-2007, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by citat3962

Very attractive considering PCIe 1X and Dolby standard instead of X-fi's crackling mess in some games and not in others...

Anyone know what the Dolby Headphone standard is?

Are you asking what Dolby Headphone is? If so, here is a pretty good explanation. Sounds pretty good. Great for silent gaming. Craps on Surround sound headphones.

**xB0n3s** · 03-15-2007, 11:57 AM

That's a lot of hardware; Niiice

**w0mbat** · 03-15-2007, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by xs64

According to respond from AMD , i guess i am not a VIP , End-users are not VIPs ?

How about AMD give some pictures of sample board R600 and says : "This R600 is under NDA and we could not talk much about its performance now" That's all i want from AMD/ATI.

But its easy to become a VIP. Just dress like a bussines man and speak with some employees that you´re representing a big company. This trick worked every cebit for me

**mascaras** · 03-15-2007, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by xs64

According to respond from AMD , i guess i am not a VIP , End-users are not VIPs ?

How about AMD give some pictures of sample board R600 and says : "This R600 is under NDA and we could not talk much about its performance now" That's all i want from AMD/ATI.

few posts back :

R600 9.5 inches at Cebit

CEBIT 2007: No pictures allowed!

Hello Vijay. We thought of seeing R600, is it there?
Hello. Yes R600 is well here in CeBIT. It is presented in NDA (agreement of nondisclosure) at some of our partners. It is not visible for general public, nor for the press, but our trade partners have it already and can present it at their customers.

And for us will people of the press, when be you he visible?
He will be presented at the press at the end of April/during May at the time of an official presentation under NDA. The date and the exact place of this event are not defined yet, but that will not be in Amsterdam (note: AMD cancelled there is a few days the official presentation of R600 which was to be held in Amsterdam at the beginning of week).

regards

**xs64** · 03-15-2007, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by w0mbat

But its easy to become a VIP. Just dress like a bussines man and speak with some employees that you´re representing a big company. This trick worked every cebit for me

nice tricks u did

But i cant, cause i'm an Asian , and just a student

Btw , i will be there in this Saturday or Sunday

**Revv23** · 03-15-2007, 12:49 PM

^being asain doesn't mean you can't be VIP, lots of asains are in the computer industry.. heck most of the manufacturing is in asia.

**w0mbat** · 03-15-2007, 01:12 PM

Yes, I think being an asian is a plus.

**STEvil** · 03-15-2007, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by CBONE

Are you asking what Dolby Headphone is? If so, here is a pretty good explanation. Sounds pretty good. Great for silent gaming. Craps on Surround sound headphones.

binaural is much better and requires no funky hardware or codecs for support.

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