Forward: official GIGA 965P-S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 beta BIOS

[tripleflip18]

Congrats on the water setup, how quiet is it comparing to your previous setup? You have any internal fans cooling your vid card ram? or N/S bridges?

[ziddey]

Thanks. I've currently got 4 fans on the dual rad doing push/pull. There's a 120mm in the back exhaust, along with 120mm going into the psu and out the back. I'm planning on adding a quiet 80mm to the side when I find one. I've got an 80 up front as well.

I think I'm flashing back to F7 tonight. I set up the thing on orthos and atitool artifact finder. Then I left to get dinner. When I came back, it was a black screen and power cycling isn't bringing it back to life. This happened to me a ton of times since going to F9, and usually it's a combination of unseating video card / clearing cmos that finally brings it back. Really irritating

[dekruyter]

I've been following these threads and trying various combinations of bios settings.

I am and have been stable (DS3) at 3.2 = 400 x 8 with 800 4-4-4-12 ram with an E6600. FSB settings below 400 boot fine (mostly), but the overall performance is worse so they're useless (or not optimal).

However, I can't get any settings to hold after cold boot above 400 fsb (the monitor is not even recognized). Very frustrating. I also have not learned anything definitive on the internet or from Gigabyte to resolve this situation.

I'm just about ready to give up and use the above settings, and/or I may return the board for a replacement; maybe Asus. I also may wait a few months and buy a new board after more bugs have been workded out of the 965's. Maybe the "true" Quad compatible boards will fair better.

I don't know why this board does not overclock successfully over 400 (with a cold boot) with, what appears to be, perfectly acceptable settings. How rediculous that this "Gaming/performance" board, and probably lots of other 965 boards, are so difficult. You also gotta love the "mystery" surrounding each bios release. Why can't Gigabyte communicate how to use the bios, or at least explain how they are designed and work. Where's the documentation!! But no, we have to do all the testing based on guess work and observation; Re-boot, re-boot, reboot.

Here's my guess; the current NB and/or SB 965 chipsets sucks for extreme overclocking with the C2D's. I think Gigabyte and others are trying their best to resove the situation created by the intel 965chipset. Perhaps Nvidia, who also has (other) reported problems, will resolve this issue for me and Intel. I have been enjoying the overclocking adventure up to now, but enough is enough.

Sorry about the rant.

-- Let me add, I am aware of most of the usual suspects for this dilema (voltage, ram latency, strap, etc.). However, this knowledge is useless if the computer doesn't boot/post to the bios.

[ziddey]

Well that's it folks. I think I'm going away as well like dnottis and so many others

I was debating between the biostar and the ds3. Boy what a mistake it was. With F9, I've had a ton of times when it'd lock up in windows, and on a reboot, I'd be greeted with a blank screen. No POST or anything. No on/off loops like traditional problems. Resetting cmos doesn't even fix it. It usually involves pulling video card / ram / cpu for it to start beeping and then work again. And no it's not something shorting out since it was on the bench when it first started happening, which was also when I first went to F9.

I was intending to go back to F7 tonight but I just can't get it to post. And now it flashed once saying something about no cmos, but now it's back to nothing again. I don't have a working floppy drive nor any floppies so I wouldn't be able to do anything anyway. Good grief

Not sure where to go now. I kind of wanted parallel and serial ports. Thing with the biostar is I need to buy a port to plug into the leads on the board.

[Battleneter]

I've been following these threads and trying various combinations of bios settings.

I am and have been stable (DS3) at 3.2 = 400 x 8 with 800 4-4-4-12 ram with an E6600. FSB settings below 400 boot fine (mostly), but the overall performance is worse so they're useless (or not optimal).

However, I can't get any settings to hold after cold boot above 400 fsb (the monitor is not even recognized). Very frustrating. I also have not learned anything definitive on the internet or from Gigabyte to resolve this situation.

I'm just about ready to give up and use the above settings, and/or I may return the board for a replacement; maybe Asus. I also may wait a few months and buy a new board after more bugs have been workded out of the 965's. Maybe the "true" Quad compatible boards will fair better.

I don't know why this board does not overclock successfully over 400 (with a cold boot) with, what appears to be, perfectly acceptable settings. How rediculous that this "Gaming/performance" board, and probably lots of other 965 boards, are so difficult. You also gotta love the "mystery" surrounding each bios release. Why can't Gigabyte communicate how to use the bios, or at least explain how they are designed and work. Where's the documentation!! But no, we have to do all the testing based on guess work and observation; Re-boot, re-boot, reboot.

Here's my guess; the current NB and/or SB 965 chipsets sucks for extreme overclocking with the C2D's. I think Gigabyte and others are trying their best to resove the situation created by the intel 965chipset. Perhaps Nvidia, who also has (other) reported problems, will resolve this issue for me and Intel. I have been enjoying the overclocking adventure up to now, but enough is enough.

Sorry about the rant.

-- Let me add, I am aware of most of the usual suspects for this dilema (voltage, ram latency, strap, etc.). However, this knowledge is useless if the computer doesn't boot/post to the bios.

Not much point posting any comment unless you post "full" details of your Overclock.

Ranting is not helpful

[HamidFULL]

Official News from Gigabyte :
Description of S3 F7/DS3 F9/DS4 F7/DQ6 F8 now Updated

Update CPU ID
FSB 1333 MHz support for rev 3.3 only

we have confirmed with our product manager that "FSB 1333 MHz support" this is only for PCB 3.3 or newer. Therefore, your M/B does not support with FSB1333MHz. This issue already forward to the related department and will revise the information on our web site. Sorry for the inconvenience.

By the way, so far, our engineer is trying to release BIOS to support with using USB flash disk. However, it is not yet available for all models. If you cannot use it, then we will suggest you to use floppy disk with Q-Flash tool or @BIOS tool in Windows

[johann]

Sofar my DS4 is doing ok, not great like my P5B deluxe but OK. I can do 432FSB stable where I got 485FSB stable from P5B deluxe.

My main concern is Sata Hard drives crashing. It seems like they are losing power and then spinning back up. I need to switch the machine off a few times to get them working again.

Is this the SATA issue people are talking about in this thread?

[ziddey]

whoa that's kind of scary. I must have missed the "sata issue" never really had any problems. The only issue I have with the hdd is that the motherboard likes to cycle up and down nonstop until I intervene, and in each time, it brings the hdd up and down.

Kind of wish it was still going up and down though. It's just dead. Going to pull it out and put it on the bench one last time and if it doesn't work, time to rma. Good grief. F9 did me in I swear to god. Probably just me though

[johann]

Yes my drive starts making a squeecky noise, spins up and down then bluescreens windows.

This have not happened in the last few days though. I threw out my previous 2 drives because i thougth they had failed only to realise that my brand new drive is doing the same.

I have not tried it without an overclock yet but Im seriously starting to think to leave this machine at stock and end the problems. I dont need the performance of an overclocked system, I prefer stability. My E6700 is fast enough on stock speed.

[laziepig]

johann what psu are you using? no problem for me with cm450w...

[Xfree_[ITA]]

Official News from Gigabyte :
Description of S3 F7/DS3 F9/DS4 F7/DQ6 F8 now Updated


we have confirmed with our product manager that "FSB 1333 MHz support" this is only for PCB 3.3 or newer. Therefore, your M/B does not support with FSB1333MHz. This issue already forward to the related department and will revise the information on our web site. Sorry for the inconvenience.

By the way, so far, our engineer is trying to release BIOS to support with using USB flash disk. However, it is not yet available for all models. If you cannot use it, then we will suggest you to use floppy disk with Q-Flash tool or @BIOS tool in Windows

What does it mean? My DS4 is rev 1.0, but, where i can find PCB revision?

[therat]

whoa that's kind of scary. I must have missed the "sata issue" never really had any problems. The only issue I have with the hdd is that the motherboard likes to cycle up and down nonstop until I intervene, and in each time, it brings the hdd up and down.

sounds like your power supply is starting to fail. Try and borrow an ampmeter and measure the voltage coming out of the power plug that connects to your hard drive. Make sure it's a full 12v constantly.

cheers

[NJDevilsFan21]

Wow I really think I dodged a bullet here.

I installed F9, and it sucked. The first boot my o/c settings where reset. Everytime I would re-do my o/c, there was like a 50/50 chance I'd get into Windows. So I said f-it and downloaded F7, put it on a floppy and flashed. Done. The cpu then started to power cycle on and off, and I'm just sitting there thinking "what the hell did those F9 bios do to my computer". I ended taking out the video card, pulling a jumper off the back of an optical drive, and inserting it to clear the cmos. Left it there for about 20 seconds, soon as I pulled it off the computer turned on (no video card), but the thing wasn't power cycling so that was a good thing. Reseated the video card and it works fine now. Back to F7. But now I'm reading of people who cleared their cmos and still get power cycling (maybe it was because I flashed back to F7 first, and then had to clear?)

I'm done updating, F7 works perfectly fine (unless a new update comes up that allows vdimm to go up +.05V - but even then I'm waiting for like a good 2-3 weeks and reading everyone else's results before I even touch the thing).

[Masami]

Official News from Gigabyte :
Description of S3 F7/DS3 F9/DS4 F7/DQ6 F8 now Updated


we have confirmed with our product manager that "FSB 1333 MHz support" this is only for PCB 3.3 or newer. Therefore, your M/B does not support with FSB1333MHz. This issue already forward to the related department and will revise the information on our web site. Sorry for the inconvenience.

By the way, so far, our engineer is trying to release BIOS to support with using USB flash disk. However, it is not yet available for all models. If you cannot use it, then we will suggest you to use floppy disk with Q-Flash tool or @BIOS tool in Windows

What means?

[ziddey]

Yikes, I was about to do a rma with newegg for my ds3 but found out they have it as out of stock. I wanted to just get something else but didn't want to fork up 15% for restocking fee, especially on a failed motherboard. But then I noticed the p5b plain is actually cheaper than the ds3. Anyone have any opinions on that thing? I know vdimm is limited to something like 2.1v?

[bl4ckdr4g00n]

FSB 1333 MHz support for rev 3.3 only

does anyone khow what it means?

[ziddey]

means official support for 1333fsb cpu's whatever those are in rev3.3. So far we've only seen rev1 and rev2 though. Maybe something new is amongst us.

[Richard Dower]

Rev 3.3 mobo?...you gotta be kidding?...they've only JUST released rev 2.0 boards. Man i spent the last week with big problems on my fresh build...where are these 3.3 boards?

[JDizzle]

PCB revision 3.3 not board revision 3.3

[eXceeded]

Rev 3.3 mobo?...you gotta be kidding?...they've only JUST released rev 2.0 boards. Man i spent the last week with big problems on my fresh build...where are these 3.3 boards?

Hey Rich, what problems you been having? Ain't heard from you in ages!

[laziepig]

Let's say how we identify our mobo PCB rev.? is it printed on the box or the mobo itself?

[OnLine]

Let's say how we identify our mobo PCB rev.? is it printed on the box or the mobo itself?

Bottom left on the board!
My S3 has Rev. 1.0 printed.

[davidos]

I've just had my first cold boot/reset to stock with F9... on a mild overclock 400 x 7 (was running 450 x 7 with F7)....

Back to F7 for good.

What is the current 'best' overclocking board? Is it still the P5B Dlx? Been out of the loop for about 6 weeks.

[Stalk3r]

I don't know if this makes any sense but my cold boot and OC dissapearing issues went away after cooling the NB properly (F9 bios).

[PanteraGSTK]

After installing the infinity and cutting some holes for 3 more fans here are some results after tinkering this weekend. With the infinity and 2 80cfm 120mm fans in push pull config I get a max load temp of 58c. I need to update my sig, but I'm running at 3500mhz 500fsb 1:1 4-4-4-12 timings. I used to be able to post at 532fsb with ds3 f8i, but I never left it that high because I didn't have adequate cooling, then I updated to f7. Now I can't get higher than 517fsb no matter what. and even then it isn't stable. My current settings are rock stable and thats what I'll run 24/7, but I want it to run higher (100% overclock goal). The highest I've been able to bench it at is the 517fsb or 3620mhz. I think I have a vdroop problem at any voltage above 1.475v. I'm also not sure if the nb is getting too hot, but I have a fan blowing directly down on to it from outside my case. I'll try one on the inside and see if it helps. I don't have any cold boot issues. I don't really have any of the issues you guys have. The only weird thing I've noticed is when I have 4-4-4-12 timings my fsb drops lower than what I set it at. I set it at 500 in BIOS, it says 499 when I boot up. 501 is the same. 519 is 517 and so on. When timings are 5-5-5-15 it is fine until above 517. Whats up with that? I'm thinking about going back to f8i just to see if my overclock might be better.