Quote Originally Posted by Baron_Davis View Post
To those saying how informed buyers will KNOW the 6870 is slower than their 5870, you are being very short sighted. This isn't about the <1% (ppl on XS) that build their own systems, this is about the mainstream. BestBuy and jabroni stores like it will have desktops with 6870's, and laptops will start carrying 6870M and random Joe's will buy it, see the 6870, see another product with a 5850 or 5870 and immediately think "mine is faster". If you don't comprehend this type of thinking, you must live alone in a cave. ANY NORMAL, NON-TECHNICAL PERSON ASSUMES A BIGGER NUMBER MEANS FASTER.
It doesn't matter, because apparently this type of thinking makes you a "cry baby" and you are just whining about something that is insignificant.

It's hilarious to me, because the whining was totally tolerable when NVIDIA did the same thing. (rename previous generation to something with a bigger number making it look faster.)

Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
actually a 6870M could have alot of power
if perf per watt is better, then a Xwatt tdp in a laptop part can hold more power in the new gen over the old gen. since we dont have specs at all for that segment, i wouldnt even wonder about it yet

anyone who bought a 5870, and plans on getting a 6870 without reading any info, deserves to be fooled. i wish i could dump 2000$ a year on computer parts (i assume they also buy other components each year if they are already buying top end gpus yearly)
Perf per watt is not better which I will show you guys in a few minutes.
5850 > Barts XT...in several ways.