ASUS Intel Beta BIOS Releases and Official Support

[AceBaran]

With evga classy i could do 4.5 24/7 stable and 225 bclk.. R3E goes weird on me @ 215 Bclk.. if qpi pll is the setting that will take me over 215 and further.. then i want the info ! I dont need a automatic pilot.. i want full control of the car i drive >_<

Said that i still love this board since it feels more stable then the classy for me.. only <215 bclk

[Leeghoofd]

Where you running the same hardware with the Classie ? You mentioned the classy went sometimes spooky on you, yet claim it stable ? Really 4.5ghz with 225Bclock and 20 multi ?... 215 with 21x for 4.5GHz, maybe you got things mixed up ?

[AceBaran]

Yes stable.. and yes to same hardware..

Sorry i wasnt very clear in my writing maybe.. Stable @ 4.5 yes with 215 bclk.. could boot up to 225 bclk but could not get it stable.... but i think that was couse of my lack in clocking skills

Edit: oh yeah the classy went spooky on me indeed @ 225 Bclk..same as R3E does @ 215

[JohnZS]

Yeah I don't understand what you guys are expecting from Asus?? I'm happy they even gave us the ability to overclock. I've had too many Gigabyte boards fail on me in both abilty to overclock and reliability. With my Asus boards its been a dream as with many other Asus products.

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I expect ASUS fix BUGS in BIOSes for all boards which were fixed on other boards.

For example. The ASUS P5E3(X38) and P5E3 Pro(X48) received BIOS updates which resolved the QX9650 and QX9770 BIOS bug whereby you cannot boot using a manual multiplier without being greeted with a VID failing to match CPU ratio error.

This issue STILL remains in the Rampage Extreme (X48 and supposedly ASUS' premier 775 board).

Another issue is that they updated the RAID option ROM to 8.7.0.1007 for the P5E3 and P5E3 Pro and Maximus Formula, but they did not bother with other X38/X48 motherboards.

It is things like this which annoy me with ASUS.

If ASUS were bothered to resolve the last few niggling issues with the Rampage Extreme motherboard I would say that it is without the best motherboard I have ever owned, for now it is only among the best and is very good, only let down by fundamental bugs ASUS know about and more annoyingly already know how to resolve!

John

[dctokyo]

ASUS Tech support has officially failed completely:

I think I might stop buying asus now.

What did you expect from a tech reply ? for them to go over and do it for you?

[dMITIj]

No but it will be nice to know what to do without that setting in the BIOS and why its by auto set it self to an xxxx value.

[Alien Grey]

What's the meaning of this thread?



Is it to give us the feeling that ASUS really cares and is going to fix all our BIOS problems. I've been in contact with ASUS for 2 years trying to let them fix the problems with the ASUS Rampage Formula and add some BIOS features that should have been there from the first release BIOS for that board.

After 2 years and little to no progress I gave up on them and they are probably happy that I don't bother them anymore.
We're using the latest unofficial 0001 BIOS with updated option ROM's added by SoLoR.

Soon every board is going to have it's unofficial BIOS that doesn't help you any further.



@JohnZs

Here's the unofficial BIOS for your ASUS Rampage Extreme board: ASUS Rampage Extreme BIOS 0002

This unofficial BIOS has DRAM Refresh Period (tREF) and Special 133 Mode (I don't know what it's supposed to do or when to use it).


That's the kind of support they give you. You ask for an ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS and they give you an ASUS Rampage Extreme BIOS.

[zoson]

What did you expect from a tech reply ? for them to go over and do it for you?

Then you paid attention and realized I'm only asking for details on the behavior of the board so I can operate it correctly. Learn to read and comprehend, or do I need to go over to you and read the entire thread to you?
You, sir, are a typical example of a PEBKAC. Read the whole thread.

I asked them the exact same thing I asked Bingo, here.

[AceBaran]

PEBKAC

that made me

But +1 to you Zoson... i totaly agree >_<

[zoson]

By the way R3E BIOS 0096 still contains CPU TEMP bug for me. I put it on BIOS2. Seems better than BIOS 1102. Not better than 1005 for me.

[JohnZS]

What's the meaning of this thread?

@JohnZs

Here's the unofficial BIOS for your ASUS Rampage Extreme board: ASUS Rampage Extreme BIOS 0002

This unofficial BIOS has DRAM Refresh Period (tREF) and Special 133 Mode (I don't know what it's supposed to do or when to use it).


That's the kind of support they give you. You ask for an ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS and they give you an ASUS Rampage Extreme BIOS.

Thank you very much Alien Grey
I shall have to give this a try.. I wonder if it will magically resolve the qX9650 manual multiplier cold boot issue.. one can only wish I guess
John

[Alien Grey]

Thank you very much Alien Grey
I shall have to give this a try.. I wonder if it will magically resolve the qX9650 manual multiplier cold boot issue.. one can only wish I guess
John

You're welcome.

I don't know if it's going to fix the multiplier issue but if it does than ASUS fixed it without knowing.

[R37ribution]

Bingo,
Could you please find out a table of values for what QPI PLL voltage is set when a CPU PLL voltage is selected on the Rampage 3 Extreme?
Example:
1.36v = x.xv QPI
1.81v = 1.1v QPI(assumed)
1.82v = x.xv QPI
1.84v = x.xv QPI
etc.

I asked ASUS support for this information and got a very bad reply:

This is a key overclocking value and we need to know this information to prevent providing too much voltage to QPI PLL!!!
If you could supply the full table of values or a method of calculating the values all the way from 1.2 to 2.0v it would be excellent.
Thanks!

Forget the table, just make it an adjustment! I get so many Gigabyte board owners jumping into my thread saying "You need to lower that CPU PLL" or, "You will get better results with a lower PLL". These boards are far too expensive to skimp on things like QPI PLL voltage, or less than stock voltage adjustments for CPU PLL, Vcore, QPI, etc. when their direct competitors (i.e. Gigabyte and E-VGA) offer these adjustments. If Gigabyte offered a mATX in the LGA1366 package similar to the Rampage Gene I'd be jumping ship.

We've been asking for this support since page two of this thread but have yet to even get a comment about it from Asus:

A bios that supports lower then 1.8 cpu pll for the P6X58D-E would be awesome.

I 2nd this for the Rampage II Gene, users around the forums are getting very high overclocks undervolting the CPU PLL below the default 1.8v. Also, QPI PLL isn't even an available voltage to adjust???

Here is an example of someone turning down the CPU PLL and getting a 4400Mhz OC on a i7 920. Its from a thread I have going about my heat issues

[JohnZS]

You're welcome.

I don't know if it's going to fix the multiplier issue but if it does than ASUS fixed it without knowing.

It is without a doubt the best BIOS for 8GB!
I gained 1200 3dmark 06 points from the BIOS flash alone!

Thank you once again

John

[Alien Grey]

It is without a doubt the best BIOS for 8GB!
I gained 1200 3dmark 06 points from the BIOS flash alone!

Thank you once again

John

BIOS 0002 FTW



You can also try with DRAM Refresh Period at 16120T to increase the bandwidth. This works 100% stable with my Q9650@4.05GHz and DDR 1199MHz with tRD 6.







I'm not sure what the Special 133 Mode should do because I don't have an ASUS Rampage Extreme board and I never received a BIOS with that feature added for the ASUS Rampage Formula.

There were two features that we requested to add in the BIOS. The first one was DRAM Refresh Period (tREF) and the second one better stability at high FSB (450->500MHz). The goal was to run our Q9650 at 4.5GHz stable.
To do that we need a BIOS with a strap change at FSB 450MHz or something else that changes at FSB 450MHz and that's probably what the Special 133 Mode is going to do.

Nobody with that BIOS knows how or when to use it and because we don't have a BIOS for the ASUS Rampage Formula with that feature I can't figure it out.



If someone from ASUS reads this maybe he can try to find out what went wrong and why we ASUS Rampage Formula users never received such a BIOS.

[Leeghoofd]

133 mode killed my REX :p board powered down after save bios and never came up again... Tried a dozen things (swapping bios chips, CPU's, batteries etc...) to resurect her... better not touch it

[Alien Grey]

133 mode killed my REX :p board powered down after save bios and never came up again... Tried a dozen things (swapping bios chips, CPU's, batteries etc...) to resurect her... better not touch it

Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee... It was meant to use at FSB 450-500MHz not at FSB 600MHz+.


I think it was just coincidence that it died because someone else tried it and his board refused to post but didn't kill it.

[dctokyo]

You, sir, are a typical example of a PEBKAC. Read the whole thread.

Hey did you just burp little doggy? So why are you repeating to me what Asus support has been saying to you ?
Your the type of person that thinks Taco Bell is a Mexican phone company

[R37ribution]

Forget the table, just make it an adjustment! I get so many Gigabyte board owners jumping into my thread saying "You need to lower that CPU PLL" or, "You will get better results with a lower PLL". These boards are far too expensive to skimp on things like QPI PLL voltage, or less than stock voltage adjustments for CPU PLL, Vcore, QPI, etc. when their direct competitors (i.e. Gigabyte and E-VGA) offer these adjustments. If Gigabyte offered a mATX in the LGA1366 package similar to the Rampage Gene I'd be jumping ship.

We've been asking for this support since page two of this thread but have yet to even get a comment about it from Asus:

I checked out the Rampage III Gene manual off Asus' support site and was pleasantly surprised to see it defining a CPU LED "Normal (Green)" voltage range of 1.20375-1.89475v. It appears that Asus is listening to our requests, its unfortunate that they haven't released a BIOS update for the Rampage II Gene to allow for < 1.81v CPU PLL. Perhaps this is a hardware limitation of the board? It would be nice to hear an official statement from Bingo as to if there are plans to add lower CPU PLL voltage to the Gene II in addition to where Asus stands on the QPI PLL adjustment for all their ROG Intel boards.

On a side note it looks like they are also allowing for significant undervolting of the DRAM - DRAM LED green voltage range on the Gene III is defined as 1.20575-1.60325v (Gene II was 1.51106-1.72306v).

Hopefully these ranges are not just for monitoring but also mean that the BIOS can be adjusted within this range...

:edit: found a statement in the manual about the CPU PLL setting...

3.3.23 CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
Allows you to set the CPU PLL voltage. The values range from 1.20575V to 2.05375V with a 0.01325V interval.
Setting the CPU PLL voltage over 2.00V may damage the CPU.

I see why everyone keeps telling me to lower my CPU PLL on my Gene II. The lowest setting of 1.81v is already just .19v to where the manual says you are getting into dangerous territory.

[Fire4Wire]

maybe some updates were cool before weekend bingo13

[Brama]

maybe some updates were cool before weekend bingo13

We are waiting for...

[PytonOrm]

maybe some updates were cool before weekend bingo13

Are u nervous dude ?

[Fire4Wire]

should i?
got bios 1301 for R3E why should I nervous?
i have all,you NOTHING,i pn nobody to leech bioses

[VoXPCS]

should i?
got bios 1301 for R3E why should I nervous?
i have all,you NOTHING,i pn nobody to leech bioses

I have 1302

[Fire4Wire]

1302 doesnt exist
fella