Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

[road-runner]

1.45 @ 4ghz is too much

1.3vcore/1.3vtt should run it stable @ 450x9


did you oc via easytune or bios?

bios, it drops to 1.328 load according to cpuz. I posted a SS on the other page at 4Ghz here it is...

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

thanks for the suggestion, I'm gonna break out my dmm after i get some lunch and see what's really up with this 100hx

[NapalmV5]

road-runner/anyone using ep45

easy oc




thermalright ifx14/2 x ystech fan/modded op1000 psu

[bigslappy]

here some SS i posted on the X48 R/F thread
LLC is disabled

this an early O/C
as i haven't really had the time to fine tune this O/C .
I'm really letting it burn-in for awhile @ 4GHz
;p

CPUZ show a clock speed as 4050.1MHz
multi 9
bus speed 450
FSB 1800
real temp 33,29,33,33 idle ambiant 26.2 c
core Voltage 1.336 idle
realtemp load temps 46,40,43,43 prime 95 ambiant temp 26.2 c
core volts under prime 95 load 1.296
LLc disabled
memory
dram freq. 450.0
FSB;dram 1 to 1
clocks as set in bios

[NapalmV5]

btw all cpu features: NX/C1E/C2/C2E/C4/C4E/TM2/VT all disabled.. never used any of these features

[NapalmV5]

NapalmV5,
You never seize to amaze me. You could have just posted your numbers and left it at that, but instead you are willing to give some of us light weights help, so kudos to you for spreading the knowledge. Hopefully, when I get my Maximus up and running I can come back here and post some credible numbers.

Again, thank you for all the help, both private and public.

Utnorris

youre welcome.. reason why ive stuck around.. help you/share with you every step of the way.. i cant stand those 4-4.2ghz clocks

So as I have never heard about this with any PSU reviews or users posting... what PSU's have VR's to adjust the rails, I'm willing to open up my PSU as long as I know what I'm looking for and roughly where it should be....

just checked my main rig and the HX1000 has the 12v rail down at 11.71v (via Everest 4.6)

Just measure your +12V with a DMM. HX1000 would never just give you 11.70V with that kind of load your system have. If so, it is defect.

Please do not even think of modding your HX1000.. It will hold every overclock on your cpu without any modding. Believe me.

look guys it all comes down to voltage regulation.. your mobo dictates that.. some do better than others but most do worst.. once you adjust your psu.. the psu dictates the voltage regulation not the mobo sorta speak

as plainly as i can put it

Well, if I get someone "more experienced" than me to do it, I'll never learn.

But if someone more experienced showed me how, I might be able to do it.

Anyway, I'm not sure how much PSU modding I want to do. Mine has no warranty anyway, so I guess it doesn't make much difference

get someone more experienced to show you then youll catch on..

[road-runner]

road-runner/anyone using ep45

easy oc




thermalright ifx14/2 x ystech fan/modded op1000 psu

Does not work on mine

[NapalmV5]

then you have to adjust v12 on the 750 psu or try a beefy 1000w psu but even that will have to be adjusted if necessary

but do fiddle around with higher vcore vtt pll i/o

[Sparda]

I saw a Silerverstone PSU that has a built in potentiometer to adjust the single +12v rails.

I read it at jonnyguru review. I think he around here but I doubt he still remember how much the poti gonna effect the rails.
SilverStone Decathlon DA850 850W (Click)

[NapalmV5]

i have the op850 and have adjusted v12 pot @ max.. the psu is not able to boot such high clocks

[Zucker2k]

I think it has been shown that as long as the 12v line is within spec (11.50v to 12.40?), adjusting the pots makes no difference because no matter how high you adjust it, the voltage regulators still have to adjust the input power; therefore the higher the incoming voltage, the bigger the strain on the VRs. I think that vtt at 1.9 makes a lot of a difference; I don't think I have the balls to do it. As far as adjusting rails, the 3.3v line would is more important especially when clocking vdimm up to 2.8, because if all the rails are loaded, that 3.3v could drop real quickly, so ample overhead is a good thing.

[NapalmV5]

*sigh* over and over.. im trying/willing to help/show you guys what it takes to achieve such high clocks.. and yet some here argue against it.. fine, you guys know better? show everyone here what you got!


leave you guys with the recipe:

1. beefy/chunky minimum 1000watt psu - still may have to be adjusted ~v12.5 if psu features 3 pots youll have greater control
2. beefy/chunky p35/p45 mobo - hearty chokes/caps/phases/bios options
3. ram that eats volts for breakfast @ default/higher clocks
4. your guts/balls/whatever you got

whom you listen to what you do and how you do it is all up to you but
even if you dont achieve your oc goals.. do enjoy what you can achieve with what youve got


wish you all great clocks and happy ocing

[ElAguila]

Here is what I got so far. I am 9x450 for 4005MHz. Here are the settings:

Vcore 1.35625v(reading @ 1.304) - vdroop drops it to 1.27v under load
PLL 1.60v(reading @ 1.680v)
FSB VTT 1.4v(reading @ 1.344v)
NB 1.47v(reading @ 1.488v)
LLC Auto

[TheScavenger]

*sigh* over and over.. im trying/willing to help/show you guys what it takes to achieve such high clocks.. and yet some here argue against it.. fine, you guys know better? show everyone here what you got!


leave you guys with the recipe:

1. beefy/chunky minimum 1000watt psu - still may have to be adjusted ~v12.5 if psu features 3 pots youll have greater control
2. beefy/chunky p35/p45 mobo - hearty chokes/caps/phases/bios options
3. ram that eats volts for breakfast @ default/higher clocks
4. your guts/balls/whatever you got

whom you listen to what you do and how you do it is all up to you but
even if you dont achieve your oc goals.. do enjoy what you can achieve with what youve got


wish you all great clocks and happy ocing

I appreciate the time you've taken to give us advice. I have learned a few things from you

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

Here is what I got so far. I am 9x450 for 4005MHz. Here are the settings:

Vcore 1.35625v(reading @ 1.304) - vdroop drops it to 1.27v under load
PLL 1.60v(reading @ 1.680v)
FSB VTT 1.4v(reading @ 1.344v)
NB 1.47v(reading @ 1.488v)
LLC Auto

DUH turn LLC on, that way you dont get such ridiculous vdroop

[Jor3lBR]

I got a good one:

Q9650
FPO/BATCH L820A930
VID 1.2125V

My PC is still under production so tests will come when everything is hooked up properly...

[WeldZilla]

hey napalm I am impressed!! however I would like to see a full range of benches run at that speed.
3D06, 05,03 pcmark05, super pi 32M, Aquamark 3 otherwise it is nothing more than an unproven suicide shot
post cpuz and gpuz in the shot along with the bench and the appropriate link.

Then I will really give you some credit.....You will deserve it!!

You can use my sig as an example, All claims have a cpu validation.


WZ

[ElAguila]

Yes I am going to play with the LLC this weekend when I have more time to devote to oc'ing this bad boy. I am using a TRUE cooler. I am looking for the highest stable oc that I can run 24/7. Mine is an E0 stepping and SLB8W/L822B509 with a vid of 1.215. Are there any settings other than the LLC that you think need to change?

[Jor3lBR]

i have the op850 and have adjusted v12 pot @ max.. the psu is not able to boot such high clocks

I saw a Silerverstone PSU that has a built in potentiometer to adjust the single +12v rails.

I read it at jonnyguru review. I think he around here but I doubt he still remember how much the poti gonna effect the rails.
SilverStone Decathlon DA850 850W (Click)

I got a Gigabyte ODIN GT 800w and you can ajust all the voltage rails thru the p_tuner software.

12v line can go as high as 12.40v on the multimeter.

Dunno if that enough, what you think Napalm?

[nugzo]

I'm stuck at 4365mhz 485FSB. I'm pretty sure its a FSB issue not max CPU OC.
I dropped multi to 8 and left all settings the same and still couldnt get stable at 490.
Windows will freeze a few minutes after booting. I've tried upping vcore, NB, SB, FSBT, and PLL.
Also i tried transaction booster on auto. My NB and SB never go over 55c.
Here are my bios settings and at the end a ss of 8hrs stable at my highest OC.
Thanks in advance for any help.

12v in everest is 12.10 idle and 12.04 loaded during prime small fft

Extreme Tweaker
AI Overclock Tuner:  Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting:  9.0
FSB Frequency:  487
CPU Clock Skew:  Auto	
North Bridge Clock Skew:  Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge:  Auto
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A1:  Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2:  Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B1:  Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B2:  Auto


DRAM Timing Control:  Auto
CAS# Latency:  5
RAS# to CAS# Delay:  5
RAS# Precharge:  5
RAS# Activate Time:  15
RAS# to RAS# Delay:  3
Row Refresh Cycle Time:  52
Write Recovery Time:  6
Read to Precharge Time:  3

Read to Write Delay (S/D):  7
Write to Read Delay (S):  3
Write to Read Delay (D):  5
Read to Read Delay (S):  4
Read to Read Delay (D):  6
Write to Write Delay (S):  4
Write to Write Delay (D):  6

Write to Pre Delay:  14
Read to Pre Delay:  5
Pre to Pre Delay:  1
All Pre to ACT Delay:  6
All Pre to REF Delay:  6

DRAM Static Read Control:  Auto
DRAM Read Training:  Auto
MEM OC Charger:  Auto
AI Clock Twister:  Strong
Transaction Booster:  Manual
Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2:  Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3:  Disabled

PCI-E Frequency:  101

CPU Voltage:  1.34575V 
CPU PLL Voltage:  1.55300V
FSBT:  1.35175V
DRAM Voltage:  2.11800V
North Bridge Voltage:  1.57700V
South Bridge Voltage 1.5:  1.55300V
South Bridge Voltage 1.1:  Auto

CPU GTL Reference 0:  Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1:  -50mV
CPU GTL Reference 2:  Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3:  -45mV
North Bridge GTL Reference:  Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage:  Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage:  Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference:  Auto

Load Line Calibration:  Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum:  Disabled
PCI-E Spread Spectrum:  Disabled

[nugzo]

Just ran 4 pass memtest all tests at 500x8 no errors. I tried upping pll to 1.7 and nb to 1.6 and taking out 4gb ram. When trying to boot into windows at 495 or 500x8 i almost make it to desktop but screen stays black right before the desktop. I'm gonna try an older bios now.



Edit: tried 0907 bios no difference. I'm in windows now at 490x8 3920mhz but as soon i reached desktop the sidebar errored out. so it should freeze any time.

[AndreaEG6]

I still can't get my Q9650 up to 450 FSB and stable, I'm using a Rampage Extreme and I'm pretty sad about this .

[NapalmV5]

batteries recharged!

I appreciate the time you've taken to give us advice. I have learned a few things from you

youre welcome

hey napalm I am impressed!! however I would like to see a full range of benches run at that speed.
3D06, 05,03 pcmark05, super pi 32M, Aquamark 3 otherwise it is nothing more than an unproven suicide shot
post cpuz and gpuz in the shot along with the bench and the appropriate link.

Then I will really give you some credit.....You will deserve it!!

You can use my sig as an example, All claims have a cpu validation.


WZ

lets get smtg xtremely straight.. im not expecting any credit whatsoever.. im not here for that.. nor do i want/need any credit from anyone.. im here if you guys want to take a ride with me to xtreme clocks

dont like it.. np im not forcing anyone

as for 24/7 stability i could care less atm.. my # 1 focus is max max clocks and will not rest.. later i can waste my time to find 24/7 stable clocks


i take it youve only seen my oc @ 4806

i didnt think 4.8ghz would complete 3dmark01 but it did on air:

4.9ghz valid @ all air + 4.8ghz 3dmark
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=203329

3dmarks @ 4.5ghz
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=202491

5ghz valid @ vapoLS
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=202987

I got a Gigabyte ODIN GT 800w and you can ajust all the voltage rails thru the p_tuner software.

12v line can go as high as 12.40v on the multimeter.

Dunno if that enough, what you think Napalm?

give it a try and see how far itll take you.. but dont expect miracles from it.. its just a starting point

Just ran 4 pass memtest all tests at 500x8 no errors. I tried upping pll to 1.7 and nb to 1.6 and taking out 4gb ram. When trying to boot into windows at 495 or 500x8 i almost make it to desktop but screen stays black right before the desktop. I'm gonna try an older bios now.



Edit: tried 0907 bios no difference. I'm in windows now at 490x8 3920mhz but as soon i reached desktop the sidebar errored out. so it should freeze any time.

certainly do try another mobo/ram/psu/combo dont give up

[funkflix]

Napalm, i do not really want to attack you in any way, but do you ever spend a thought, that you are the one lucky guy, that found the golden Q9650/CPU/Mobo-combo all people ever searching for?

Now here are a lot of people who think they can clock there Q9650 to > 4600MHz easily, just by playing with perfect(high) voltages, low vcore, and with a psu with modded rails, that should have min. 1000W.

I can run 4500MHz 1.42V load all benches, a lot of hours long. If i want to go to 4600MHz i just need to up the vcore to 1.48V load. Any other voltages doesnt't really matter at this point. Every cpu stops working on a other point, thats a fact.

Do not see this as a attack, it is just based on experience. Imho i think you should realise that too?

[Utnorris]

Napalm, i do not really want to attack you in any way, but do you ever spend a thought, that you are the one lucky guy, that found the golden Q9650/CPU/Mobo-combo all people ever searching for?

Now here are a lot of people who think they can clock there Q9650 to > 4600MHz easily, just by playing with perfect(high) voltages, low vcore, and with a psu with modded rails, that should have min. 1000W.

I can run 4500MHz 1.42V load all benches, a lot of hours long. If i want to go to 4600MHz i just need to up the vcore to 1.48V load. Any other voltages doesnt't really matter at this point. Every cpu stops working on a other point, thats a fact.

Do not see this as a attack, it is just based on experience. Imho i think you should realise that too?

Must be lost in translation as I do not understand what point you are trying to make. Are you saying that he/we shouldn't expect higher clocks? Or that it takes a lot to get to 4600 and beyond?

This is not meant as an attack, just looking for clarification.
Thanks,
Utnorris