Intel shows running 32nm chips.

[Shintai]

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/10/i...nm-processors/

*Video at the source*

Intel Demonstrates First Working 32nm-based Microprocessor
in Both Mobile and Desktop Systems

Feb. 10, 2009 - At a media briefing in San Francisco today, Intel Corporation discussed new milestones for 32nm manufacturing and progress toward future products. Earlier that day, in Washington, DC, Intel President and CEO Paul Otellini disclosed that Intel is making the largest- ever investment in a single process technology in the United States to support upgrades to advanced manufacturing facilities in the country and the move to its next-generation, 32nm chip manufacturing technology. Intel is investing approximately $7 billion in 2009-10 on 32nm manufacturing technology, raising the total by the end of that timeframe to approximately $8 billion (for 32nm investment in the United States).

Below is a summary of the product roadmap news at the briefing in San Francisco:

First-ever demonstration of a working 32nm-based microprocessor:

Intel is demonstrating the first 32nm working microprocessor in both mobile and desktop systems.
Great 32nm process and product health are enabling Intel to accelerate 32nm product ramp
Westmere mobile and desktop processor production in the fourth quarter of 2009
32nm enables increased performance and power flexibility
Intel processors based on Westmere will ramp into mobile, desktop, and server segments over time, as the 32nm process ramps
For client, Westmere brings Nehalem through Intel's mainstream processor product line
Increased performance, smaller processor core size
New multi-chip package with graphics integrated in the processor
Repartitioned system architecture, simplified motherboards
Volume ramp; expect 32nm in server market in 2010
Westmere key features
Intel® Turbo Boost technology
Intel® Hyper-Threading technology (2 Cores, 4 threads)
Integrated graphics, discrete/switchable graphics support
4MB cache, Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) – 2ch DDR3
AES Instructions
The 32nm process with second-generation high-k + metal gate transistor era begins
Intel's strength as an integrated device manufacturer allows the company to continue to deliver new generations of advanced process technology on a 2-year cadence. Intel has developed a 32nm logic technology with industry-leading features:
Second-generation high-k + metal gate transistors
32nm marks the first time Intel uses immersion lithography on critical layers
9 copper + low-k interconnect layers
About 70 percent dimension scaling from 45nm generation
Pb- and halogen-free packages

The performance segment is missing tho. Mainstream will be scaled back to 2cores with HT but higher speeds.

[clayton]

Gulftown

[deathman20]

Man scaled back is right. 2 cores then a jump to 6 cores. Damn... Then again its not like I want integrated graphics either with a 2 core CPU.

[Gramner]

So the only CPUs without integrated graphics will be high-end desktop and servers?

[Chri$ch]

Westmere with iGFX (Clarkdale?)



http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/...mere/index.htm

[Shintai]

So the only CPUs without integrated graphics will be high-end desktop and servers?

There is also the performance segment.

70.8W for one platform under load.

Basicly the "old" i7, i5 and i3 seems to change to i7 and i3 only at 32nm. i5 gets cut in the middle between i7 and i3.

[fiveprime]

Decoder ring? Did OP find this in a cereal box? Looks good glad they have the process on track.

[ToTTenTranz]

So all mainstream CPUs will be dual core only? Isn't this kind of a downgrade compared to what we have now?

Unless that iGPU has some actual computing power, which I find difficult, since it's probably just an old GMA.

[[XC] gomeler]

Well that's good to hear. Dualcore, quad-thread is more than sufficient for the mainstream platform. Only commercial applications and enthusiasts will want more power(for the immediate future) and pay for it.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/10/i...nm-processors/

*Video at the source*

ES motherboards are always so ugly

[Macadamia]

i5 is probably too competitive that it surely would cannibalize i7 if released at the the same speedgrade.

It has to be sold cheap, and its nearly the same investment size-wise as a Bloomfield. So obviously it would have to be scrapped.


Next i5 part might be a Gulftown with 2 cores disabled. (So much for the bravado speech.)

[Shintai]

ES motherboards are always so ugly

I love the SATA cable connector that blocks two other SATA ports

[Shintai]

i5 is probably too competitive that it surely would cannibalize i7 if released at the the same speedgrade.

It has to be sold cheap, and its nearly the same investment size-wise as a Bloomfield. So obviously it would have to be scrapped.


Next i5 part might be a Gulftown with 2 cores disabled. (So much for the bravado speech.)

i5 is not scrapped. Its just an 45nm product only. At 32nm you have to go either down to 2 cores or up to 6.

They just remove one CPU type completely. One mask, production line etc less. i5 dies with 45nm. Only i7 and i3 goes to 32nm.

[Nanometer]

by the look of that heatsink, that's definitely a 32nm cpu

[Wiggy McShades]

so what bus is used for communication between the cores and the memory controller if the memory controller isn't actually on the same die as the cpu cores.

[Shintai]

so what bus is used for communication between the cores and the memory controller if the memory controller isn't actually on the same die as the cpu cores.

QPI.

[xVeinx]

i5 is not scrapped. Its just an 45nm product only. At 32nm you have to go either down to 2 cores or up to 6.

They just remove one CPU type completely. One mask, production line etc less. i5 dies with 45nm. Only i7 and i3 goes to 32nm.

Do you happen to know if the socket is going to stick around? Since they have a separate socket for i5, that would make it the shortest-lived socket ever if they ditch it...

[XS Janus]

So no integrated graphics mobos for efficient 4core i7, i5 setups and mATX?

[Origin_Unknown]

stick your finger in that fan!

[perkam]

The Classic Intel HSF with the push through hole design. It......Must......DIE !!

Perkam

[Extelleron]

Hopefully Gulftown will be compatible with current LGA 1366 boards and Intel doesn't pull the usual "same socket, not compatible" game.

[Shaggy]

May have missed the news, but when will a 32nm revision of the 4c/8t w/o graphics be released?

[Extelleron]

May have missed the news, but when will a 32nm revision of the 4c/8t w/o graphics be released?

Never apparently. High end desktop will be 6 cores, mainstream will be 2 cores with graphics. MP server market will likely see a 8-core refresh of the Beckton octal-core chip (45nm), or perhaps Intel will scale that up to 12 cores to match what they did with high-end desktop?

[deathman20]

Hopefully Gulftown will be compatible with current LGA 1366 boards and Intel doesn't pull the usual "same socket, not compatible" game.

Yeah now im highly reconsidering upgrading i7 when I get a chance too, to not til more info comes out hoping that the next package will have compatible socket.

[Mats]

Decoder ring? Did OP find this in a cereal box?

No, at intel.com, page 14.

[xVeinx]

Between the additional cores and the smaller core size, I wouldn't be surprised to see the power requirements change, and with the the necessity of a new board...