Phenom X4 vs. Yorkfield tested in Crysis

[gundersausage]

The battle begins

Expreview has managed to get their hand on an AMD Phenom X4 and an Intel Yorkfield based QX9650 and have run the two against eachother in Crysis to see which chip is the better one.

Also thrown in for comparison was an Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 and a Core 2 Extreme QX6850. As you might have already realised, the Intel chips are clocked a fair bit higher than the Phenom X4, so to make things a bit more even, the Phenom X4 was overclocked to 3GHz.

This is still not quite a fair comparison, as the Phenom X4 had it's memory running at 375MHz due to limitations of AMD's integrated memory controller which prevented it to run at 400MHz as per the Intel based test systems. The Phenom X4 system also had a lower bus speed, due to Intel's move to 1,333MHz bus.

The Phenom X4 was tested using an RD790 board while the Intel CPU's were tested on a P35 based board. The graphics card used wan an 8800 GTX and the test results are looking quite promising for AMD, at least if the Phenom X4's will retail below Intel's asking price. The only problem is that the Core 2 Duo E6850 seemed to outperform it.

The Crysis time demo was run 5 times and Expreview took the average of those runs, with the Phenom X4 scoring an average 46.48fps while the QX9650 managed 49.95fps. The Core 2 Duo E6850 scored an average of 49.19fps while the Core 2 Extreme QX6850 managed 49.92.

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[KTE]

That's not quad optimized at all. No gain at all between 3x 3GHz CPUs.

[gundersausage]

That's not quad optimized at all. No gain at all between 3x 3GHz CPUs.

Hopefully it's just the demo that is not optimized for multicore or else I'm going back to dual

[KTE]

I was thinking of buying a Penryn quad or Phenom quad in 2 or so months and that shows nothing worth considering.

Did you see the CPU-Z voltages?

ES QX9650 @ 1.248
G0 QX6850 @ 1.328
E0 E6850 @ 1.248
B2 X4 @ 1.536

Those are high volts for 3GHz X4 if true but another thing I noticed again is, some of the guys who are getting QX9650 ES to test on stage from Intel like Fugger are not getting those same chips but maybe handpicked onces. They are getting the stock 1.1V QX9650 while this is the 3rd person I've seen with stock 1.248V QX9650.

[Brother Esau]

Dual Core is much better at gaming contrary to what they say the game will be optimized for

[tictac]

25Mhz less on memory
2clock loosen on tRP
1.6GHz NB Speed

There is still headroom for PhenomB2 to perform on that test..

[BeardyMan]

the tests clearly show it's gfx depended.

[Syzygy187]

Do you really believe that a K10 running the RAM 5%-10% faster and the NB 10%-20% faster would match Kentsfield's performance?

You're forgetting that when the final release of Crysis hits the shelves, theres a strong possibility the game utilises all 4 cores of the CPU

[Blasar]

Do you really believe that a K10 running the RAM 5%-10% faster and the NB 10%-20% faster would match Kentsfield's performance?

You may believe it or not, but it seems you already know the answer, right?

I´m convinced of one thing, IF Phenom cannot beat Yorkfield (and i agree that, at the moment, it is the most plausible assumption)

it will be cheaper, so no matter what, good news are coming along

[boban10]

Most of you failed to see one very important thing: Minimum fps of phenom is only 8.28
Every other cpu get a minimum fps of around 30
That mean they tested Phenom diferently.
There is no way a cpu will provide 3x better minimum fps.

[BeardyMan]

25Mhz less on memory
2clock loosen on tRP
1.6GHz NB Speed

There is still headroom for PhenomB2 to perform on that test..

And tras is much higher and while they were comparing, why not run the phenom at 9*333 to make it a head to head comparison.

From what i can see now, the QX9650 is worthless for upgrade.

[Calmatory]

So the winner will be decided by overclocking and price. One which overclocks better, or is cheaper, will be the winner.

[BeardyMan]

So the winner will be decided by overclocking and price. One which overclocks better, or is cheaper, will be the winner.

cheaper has always been the winner.

What AMD could do as a favour is stock multi +1 extra unlocked, that would make things crazy

[Psycho_eddie]

I think this proves that Amd are still in with a fight, i think that wasnt a good test personally... would of been better to test using 3dmark06!! showing off what native quad core can do..

I think people will be pleasently supprised by Amd's Phenoms and RD790 mix

[BeardyMan]

3D Mark doesn't shows anything at all. It is a pure synthetic benchmark and IT IS NOT optimized for 4 cores. Even if the so called "native" core is perfect, 3D Mark would make it looks poor. Check out some 3D Mark 2006 scores.

Yes show me those Phenom X4 on RD790 3dmark06 scores, don't worry i can wait for a few minutes.

[Syzygy187]

even if AMD gets within 10% of Intel, I will be happy. So far, its looking promising

[knightwolf654]

Most of you failed to see one very important thing: Minimum fps of phenom is only 8.28
Every other cpu get a minimum fps of around 30
That mean they tested Phenom diferently.
There is no way a cpu will provide 3x better minimum fps.

must be there is something wrong with those tests, i am going to call a minor fake here, since now a days only people who can run real truthful test are on here.

[Brother Esau]

Bleh....I will be going Back to AMD for some Real Love on the Memory deal and I am quite sure that Phenom will be equal / better that whats here now AMD just runs so much smoother.

[BeardyMan]

must be there is something wrong with those tests, i am going to call a minor fake here, since now a days only people who can run real truthful test are on here.

I've just read that the bench is utilising only 1 core

So far the credibility of this bench and thread.

core1:[------------------------------------------------------------90% ]
core2:[---5% ]
core3:[--3% ]
core4:[----5% ]

[K404]

Does the bus really matter for AMD?

wouldnt... say... 200*12 perform the same as 266*9 as long as the RAM is performing at a similar level? The HT bus isnt even close to being filled, so it doesnt matter if its running at say... 1.6 or 1.2GHz

Seeing as the AMD is overclocked and the Intel is at stock, thats a bit of a downer.

[tictac]

that indicate that phenom b2 can go higher than 3ghz.. ?

[Nedjo]

it's ridiculous to run memory on 750 MHz, when this CPU can use 1066 MHz DDR2 that could work @ 1000 MHz (3000/6)!

[BeardyMan]

that indicate that phenom b2 can go higher than 3ghz.. ?

I think they haven't properly tested at all, no info on cooling used, and probably they just pushed 1.55v trough it to make sure it runs 3ghz..

I think this step will run much higher

[64dragon]

why not run the phenom at 9*333 to make it a head to head comparison.

i was thinking that too.

[Equil|briuM]

Ive given up on AMD.

Phenom should have been out 2 months ago, a month ago, today.

Performance is not looking to promising, the darkside is looking tempting.