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Old 05-26-2007, 04:17 PM   #1
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HD2900XT Overclocking and 3DMark&Games

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E6600 - Stock Cooled
Powercolour HD2900XT 512 - Stock Cooled, Stock volts
2Gb Crucial Ballistic PC8000
Silverstone ST65ZF 650w
5 HDDs
Typically 22C-26C case temp (From my own probe)

Driver: 8.37.4.2-070509a-047323E-ATI

For FEAR Results, read further down page

First Stock Everything Benchmarks:
3dmark01se - 45951
3dmark03 - 36134
3dmark05 - 15501
3dmark06 - 10398
Aquamark3 - 145,842 CPU 16,012 GFX 26,769


3dmark Testing - E6600@3375Mhz, Stock HD2900XT:
3dmark06 11050
3dmark05 - 19588
3dmark01se - 58051


E6600@3400Mhz, HD2900XT@840/1000

3dmark06 - 12093
3dmark05 - 20345

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1280x1024 - Maximum settings + maxxed advanced settings, including AA
45~55 FPS avg outdoors
50-60 FPS indoors



Oblivion:
Oblivion - 1280x1024 Maximum settings, Full HDR
45-60FPS (60 more often than not)
Going outside made no difference


Comments Very appreciated and I hope this puts some more perspective out on these cards
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Old 05-26-2007, 07:30 PM   #2
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thats some of the best testing Ive seen so far, excellent job...Thanks so much for adding stock vs. OC, and finally posting some gaming numbers.
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Old 05-26-2007, 09:03 PM   #3
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Thanks Viper !

I did some tweaking, got the E6600 to sit at 3.5GHz on stock air, the RAM on a 4:5 divider running 4-4-4-12
The HD2900XT will run over and over on 860/1000 on stock cooling without a hitch

New 3dmark06 score


New 3dmark01 :P
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:24 PM   #4
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12k 3dmark 06 with only 3400mhz! i didnt think this video card could do that but anyways, your cpu could be higher.

Im pretty sure you could reach 13k.. if you swap with a 8800GTS heheh
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Old 05-26-2007, 10:27 PM   #5
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12k 3dmark 06 with only 3400mhz! i didnt think this video card could do that but anyways, your cpu could be higher.

Im pretty sure you could reach 13k.. if you swap with a 8800GTS heheh
I need better than stock cooling on the CPU first :P
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:24 AM   #6
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The FEAR result is... IMPOSSIBLE, make sure the SShadows are enabled for sure, you can't enable SShadows with AA at the same time, first you have to enable SShadows, apply it, then you enable the AA you desire.

For SURE its NOT working properly. I get 35fps at 1600x1200 FAA@4x, FA@16x, SShadows enable with my 2900XT@850/2000 using 8.38 RC7 and my E6400@3,2ghz.

You should get around 50-55fps with SSHadows enable and AA@4x at 1280x1024

Anyway, good job!
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:25 AM   #7
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Im pretty sure you could reach 13k.. if you swap with a 8800GTS heheh
No way:

3dmark06 --> 10.500 points
E6400@3,2ghz
8800GTS 640MB @630/1900

3dmark06 --> 12.000 points
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Old 05-27-2007, 02:55 AM   #8
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The FEAR result is... IMPOSSIBLE, make sure the SShadows are enabled for sure, you can't enable SShadows with AA at the same time, first you have to enable SShadows, apply it, then you enable the AA you desire.

For SURE its NOT working properly. I get 35fps at 1600x1200 FAA@4x, FA@16x, SShadows enable with my 2900XT@850/2000 using 8.38 RC7 and my E6400@3,2ghz.

You should get around 50-55fps with SSHadows enable and AA@4x at 1280x1024

Anyway, good job!
With Catalyst AI on highest settings and CCC settings on high (aka not default) I get average 59FPS,
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:50 PM   #9
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Ok, I have a better FEAR test here, more accurate reading of what performance will be under normal settings with catalyst AI on.
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:37 PM   #10
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Good results you are giving to us
Let's compare to GTX with old old drivers. I've made some testing in the beginning of the year
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FEAR SLI@650/2100 max ALL AA4 AF16 + SS on

FEAR single@650/2100 max ALL AA4 AF16 + SS on

SLI 655/2120 /3dmark settings and CPU 4g HP and some LOD/ max ALL AA4 AF16 + SS on
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It looks in this particular game Nvidia is far away(more then 80-100$, and less with 50W ). I don't have this game right now to test with the newer drivers, but considering 3dmark numbers 10-20% improvements in FEAR are sure
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Old 05-27-2007, 08:45 PM   #11
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Yeah, it seems FEAR is a no competition game.
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:20 PM   #12
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Oooh, I'm surpised, I thought 2900 would deliver better performace. Here is my Opty 170 with 7900GT SLI
I'm pretty sure these were all maximum setting in-game including soft shadows (I wouldn't have wanted it any other way)

Opty 2965mhz (755/930)

1280x960


Opty 170 2965mhz (750/920)
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Old 05-28-2007, 12:13 AM   #13
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Guys i got some problems with the 2900XT cards and the 3dmark benches.

First of all i couldn't run 3dmark03/05/06.
I am double clicking the Shorcut and then the screen freezes on the first signs of the 3dmarks.
I went to the properties and rename them to xxxxxxx -nosysteminfo in order to run them.

But then, FM does not approve nothing

I saw som scores on FM with 2900...how this came?

Furthermore, when i run AM3(with the old or the new .dll) ,the bench ends and then, black screen everywhere. Ctrl+Alt+Del to end the task and everything is ok again. But there is no score...shi(f)t.

Any ideas when FM will apporve the drivers and when the 7.5 will come out?

Problems with CF goes on....the CCC opening and closing every 20 seconds....

I got the 7.4 Catalyst..
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Furthermore, when i run AM3(with the old or the new .dll) ,the bench ends and then, black screen everywhere. Ctrl+Alt+Del to end the task and everything is ok again. But there is no score...shi(f)t.
for AQUAMARK plz. remove is " Direcpll.dll " from install folder will can have the score, I'm tried is work

source >> here
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:05 AM   #15
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why in 3d05 gets high scores? there's a particulare reason?

it's possible that the card will always have low fps, even with good drivers?
maybe all the new features of the card are useless in games... i dunno :\

anyway i think that game developers should work better on engines....
i mean... look at oblivion... 10 fps for crap graphics... not like valve's source engine: good graphics and 200fps.

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why in 3d05 gets high scores? there's a particulare reason?

it's possible that the card will always have low fps, even with good drivers?
maybe all the new features of the card are useless in games... i dunno :\

anyway i think that game developers should work better on engines....
i mean... look at oblivion... 10 fps for crap graphics... not like valve's source engine: good graphics and 200fps.

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Good to have you. Looking forward to more games being benched in this thread...would love to see how HD 2900 handles some of the newer summer releases

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why in 3d05 gets high scores? there's a particulare reason?
the HD2900XT is very strong in 3dmark, especially 2k5, I don't know exactly why.

I did some PREY tests
All run on 1280x1024, MAX ingame settings, 4xAA/16xAF

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so which card is playing FEAR better on? I am talking max settings with 4-8xAA and 16XAF SINGLE CARD at 1600x1200 or so?
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so which card is playing FEAR better on? I am talking max settings with 4-8xAA and 16XAF SINGLE CARD at 1600x1200 or so?
That would be an 8800GTX The Nvidia cards love FEAR.

New 3dmark scores!

3dmark06 - 12421 - stock cooled CPU/GPU


3dmark05 - 21216 - stock cooler CPU/GPU


3dmark01 also achieved 60500+
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12k 3dmark 06 with only 3400mhz! i didnt think this video card could do that but anyways, your cpu could be higher.

Im pretty sure you could reach 13k.. if you swap with a 8800GTS heheh
I don't think so. I pushed my old 8800GTX 640MB with a QX6700 the best I could do was 12,670 Now, with the HD2900XT I've passed it with just an E6600:

E6600@3.870Ghz w/ HIS HD2900XT 890/1000

3DMark06 13,200

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nicepun, some good results there, I'll get some numbers once I'm not on completely stock cooling :P
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hi Morgoth

what driver version are you using ?? your scores are a bit low i think , maybe your using 8.36 CD driver (suks a lot!)


here my scores with stokcloks and 8.37 driver

CPU: E6600@ 3600mhz
VGA: Sapphire HD2900XT @ Default Clocks
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VGA DEFAULT -- E6600 @ 3600Mhz :


3dmark 2005 >> 20616 marks (8.37) >> http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3056950

3dmark 2001 >> 62790 marks (8.37 & LOD) >> http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9202801

3dmark 2006 >> 11500 marks (8.37)

3dmark 2006 >> 11650 marks (8.38 RC7 ) >> http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2046685



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hi Morgoth

what driver version are you using ?? your scores are a bit low i think , maybe your using 8.36 CD driver (suks a lot!)


here my scores with stokcloks and 8.37 driver

CPU: E6600@ 3600mhz
VGA: Sapphire HD2900XT @ Default Clocks
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VGA DEFAULT -- E6600 @ 3600Mhz :


3dmark 2005 >> 20616 marks (8.37) >> http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3056950

3dmark 2001 >> 62790 marks (8.37 & LOD) >> http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9202801

3dmark 2006 >> 11500 marks (8.37)

3dmark 2006 >> 11650 marks (8.38 RC7 ) >> http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2046685



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I'm using the 8.37 driver
Driver Packaging Version 8.37.4.3-070510a-047096E-ATI

Although with the earlier benchmarks my ram was running 5-5-5-15
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Is anyone having problems with Prey? It's like hit or miss, right after I load or resume a game the damn thing freezes. Anyone?

Edit: Nevermind, I found out I need to disable AI in CCC. All is well.
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