[Testing] Sapphire X2900XT

[DilTech]

did you guys already saw this results ??? New driver?? FAKE???











http://game1.ali213.net/thread-1499633-1-1.html
http://game1.ali213.net/thread-1500431-1-1.html

It's fake...the 8800GTX has a larger lead than that over the 8800GTS. Definitely fake.

Especially seeing as it's well known the 8800GTX pulls 79+ in fear at 4xAA 16xAF at 1600x1200. Until a trusted site lists numbers, you may as well consider it fake for the time being.

[CedricFP]

When can we expect the next refresh of cards?

[DilTech]

When can we expect the next refresh of cards?

End of summer/beginning of Fall.

[CedricFP]

End of summer/beginning of Fall.

Drat. Thanks for the info, Dil. It's a shame the R600 isn't more powerful that it is.

[flopper]

Drat. Thanks for the info, Dil. It's a shame the R600 isn't more powerful that it is.

We always want the worst, best and powerfullest card possible
För the pricepoint the card is well set and with some watercooling it performs well.

[nicepun]

Ouch, those fear scores on the 2900 are crap to say the least. The GTS is running all over the 2900 in this game. Sucks too as that is the main game I play and that game alone is going to determine which card I get based on the performance the card can deliver for this game. So far the 2900 is not looking good.

Well, although we expected to drivers to be mature it is my belief that there's alot of work to be done. Although I don't expect for the performance to improve...hmmm let say 50% I do think some improvements will be made. And for the record, at least for me, I find the IQ better with ATi. Later on today I'll raise the OC on the processor and video card.

[mascaras]

Mascaras,

I am loving the reaction you are getting on the identical thread at the [T]ardForums

Pure comedy

yep , some of them maybe kids or guys who dont understand too much of hardware , im also Laughing a lot with some of them :

if u notice on all the 2900xt 3dmark screenshots all the resolution parts are covered, but on the nvidia 3dmark screenshots, the resolution is shown. i think he runs the 2900xt at 1024x768, and the 8800's at 1280x768. that shows the 1000 point differences in all the scores

Indeed. Could've faked the tests.

Its total comedy over there

[Lane-k]

Why not 800x600?...

[nicepun]

yep , some of them maybe kids or guys who dont understand too much of hardware , im also Laughing a lot with some of them :











Its total comedy over there

Yeah, I guess that's why too many of the people here don't post over there for this particular reason.

[Evil]

what waterblock are you using ???


regards

Swiftech MCW60 fits perfectly. I also have MCW50 which i will be using with my second r600 in crossfire. The card maxed out at 860 with stock cooling.

[dinos22]

Swiftech MCW60 fits perfectly. .

that's good to know


let us know how the OC increases and temps of course

[mascaras]

Swiftech MCW60 fits perfectly. I also have MCW50 which i will be using with my second r600 in crossfire. The card maxed out at 860 with stock cooling.

and you have a good contact with the core because the shim is taller ????

whats your temps??





regards

[albertwesker]

that's good to know


let us know how the OC increases and temps of course

idle: 35°C
load: 47°C

clock: 890 MHz

i'm waiting for the ATI Tool for raising the voltages. When will be the tool released? When it takes too long, i will voltmod the card hard.

[nicepun]

idle: 35°C
load: 47°C

clock: 890 MHz

i'm waiting for the ATI Tool for raising the voltages. When will be the tool released? When it takes too long, i will voltmod the card hard.

What about mem?

[albertwesker]

What about mem?

it is not necessary to cool the mem, but the ic's have to be cooled, so i cool those things with the stock cooler (without the copper block for the GPU, which i replaced with the mc60).

[nicepun]

it is not necessary to cool the mem, but the ic's have to be cooled, so i cool those things with the stock cooler (without the copper block for the GPU, which i replaced with the mc60).

I was talking about how high you're getting your mem to OC.

[cantankerous]

Well, although we expected to drivers to be mature it is my belief that there's alot of work to be done. Although I don't expect for the performance to improve...hmmm let say 50% I do think some improvements will be made. And for the record, at least for me, I find the IQ better with ATi. Later on today I'll raise the OC on the processor and video card.

Have you compared an 8800 to the 2900 and found that the ATI has better IQ or are you just generally speaking? I have always loved ATI's IQ as well but screenshots and reviews are touting the 8800 as being pretty damn good and I must admit it appears so. If you have used an 8800 and an 2900 and still found one better than the other please sure and why. If you are just generally speaking then please do admit that too. I am not trying to pick a fight, just curious is all.

Please do let us know how the card fares in FEAR once overclocked some more. I look forward to your results.

[albertwesker]

I was talking about how high you're getting your mem to OC.

1000 MHz

[mascaras]

Have you compared an 8800 to the 2900 and found that the ATI has better IQ or are you just generally speaking? I have always loved ATI's IQ as well but screenshots and reviews are touting the 8800 as being pretty damn good and I must admit it appears so. If you have used an 8800 and an 2900 and still found one better than the other please sure and why. If you are just generally speaking then please do admit that too. I am not trying to pick a fight, just curious is all.

Please do let us know how the card fares in FEAR once overclocked some more. I look forward to your results.

looking to his sig he also have a 8800GTS


i personally also think the image quality its a little better in x2900xt than in 8800GTS (both very good)


regards

[DilTech]

looking to his sig he also have a 8800GTS


i personally also think the image quality its a little better in x2900xt than in 8800GTS (both very good)


regards

It sounds to me like this round it's to the point that Image Quality is subjective, unlike last round when there was no denying the R5xx had better IQ than the 7 series.

Some are saying they like the HD 2900XT's IQ, others the 8800's IQ. That goes even for reviewers. I know I was shocked to see even beyond 3d state they preferred nvidia's image quality from the 8 series over ATi's.

So, apparently it might actually be pretty close this round, unless of course you turn on ATi's new AA methods that cause blurring, then it's all nvidia.

[nicepun]

So, apparently it might actually be pretty close this round, unless of course you turn on ATi's new AA methods that cause blurring, then it's all nvidia.

You had to bring it didn't you....

Quick Update:

E6600@3.9Ghz and HIS HD2900XT 850/1025 still Stock HSF.
3DMark06 12,890 3DMark05 23,156

Additional Comments: I'll post more stuff tomorrow as it's time to go play with my super ubber extreme to the max high octane 2 1/2 year old daughter. I'll do some Lost Coast comparisons.

3DMark06


3DMark05

[mascaras]

well , here in portugal its 23th already , no Catalyst 7.5 driver in ATI site yet


regards

[Eastcoasthandle]

New drivers released yesterday 8.38 RC7, Vista

[SoulAssassin]

Hi there, i´m a proud owner of one of these grafic cards....
going to sound like a noob, but i havn´t had a ATI card since the 9700pro.
So my question is, how do i unlock the overdrive option? i´ve read the manual and it says it should be displayed on the catalyst interfacer tree but in my case it doesn´t.

can anyone help me on this?

ps, is it normal for the cooler to speed up to full rpm´s for a minute then down to inaudible level in windows desktop?

[jimmyz]

you need an 8 pin power plug 6 pin won't let you use overdrive. amd gpu tool will though. mine doesn't spin up full speed unless i am doing serious benching.