my first cascade (Raven & ryba)

[ryba]

wdrzal just wanna remembering you guys about safety, its about life and death guys... he knows what he talked about...
safety comes first, temps second...

anyway, thats a good cascade dude... wish i have the skill.... well, its not too late to learn though...

Sometimes he speak to much about safty and liability

In my opinion unit must be:
1. powerfull
2. easy in use
3. quiet
4. small

[aasmaukr]

Very nice temps on that unit guys But a safety valve is a must in cascades and autocascades with high pressure gases. Think about it, if the cap tube in second stage is blocked, you will pump all the gas into the high stage and when you shut the compressors off and second stage heats up again, pressure will rise and a component might not take it.
If you use a pressure relief valve you don't have to think about that.

[LukeXE]

Sometimes he speak to much about safty and liability

In my opinion unit must be:
1. powerfull
2. easy in use
3. quiet
4. small

Yes, but wdrzal is a little bit right about safety devices in cascade or auto-c, for sure cut-off swich cost about 15$. It will be better to use it than nothing.

[ryba]

Yes, but wdrzal is a little bit right about safety devices in cascade or auto-c, for sure cut-off swich cost about 15$. It will be better to use it than nothing.

I'm allways dreamed about own bomb in house :]

[Jort]

you will talk different when something happens, ask people from IRAK how they love bombs

But it is for sure a Very nice cascade with some good temps for sure!!!

[aasmaukr]

Bombs are for sure fun when you know when they blow and can control it . But if your cascade blows up while you're benching it aint that fun anymore. As I said a high pressure relief valve is a must for cascades, no cascade should be built without one.

[Tonic]

and?? who will be bother that

Sometimes he speak to much about safty and liability

In my opinion unit must be:
1. powerfull
2. easy in use
3. quiet
4. small

I'm allways dreamed about own bomb in house :]

Enough. Fool, you never had a nightmare of having seriously injured body parts, especially those used to sense environment or moving, right? Not only you shows a total ignorance of life and safety and in addiction rudeness to person, whom wants good for you. How miserable! Seems you hadn't any serious accidents, however, I think that in future, with your treatment of safety, something bad might occur. It has happened to me, so don't think I'm proofless.

[jinu117]

okay enough comment guys
I might not agree with way wdrzal used to come down on safety issues but that doesn't mean I don't agree with him. As many people have pointed out, especially units that goes away from builder to someone else must have proper safety precaution. And please, let's not try to single out someone in public.

[Sneil]

Enough. Fool, you never had a nightmare of having seriously injured body parts, especially those used to sense environment or moving, right? Not only you shows a total ignorance of life and safety and in addiction rudeness to person, whom wants good for you. How miserable! Seems you hadn't any serious accidents, however, I think that in future, with your treatment of safety, something bad might occur. It has happened to me, so don't think I'm proofless.

Well said, listen to this guy. Everyone here, especiall wzrdal are only concerned with your safety, why else would they bother to say anything at all? I hope nothing happens with your cascade that wil cause you serious injury, but I honestly can't believe you have no HP reliefe valve on there... that is really not good.

[ryba]

small update

Compressors: 2x Toshiba PG160-X1C (95000 BTU)
Evap: Chilly1 clone
Expansion valves: captube 0.8mm
Gasses: R507/R1150/.
Safety devices: my reflex
oilseparator: temprite 340 + hand valve










Idle



After 2-3h working @ 180W dummy load, Interstage HX out/evap

[Jack]

No safety devices at all?

[Marvin]

this thread should be closed.

[Xeon th MG Pony]

WTF? Holy necro thread, I realy should have checked the date.

[ryba]

Pretty?

[Xeon th MG Pony]

Or added schrapnel? Wheres the blast shield? You'll need it if the 1st stage ever gets plugged or looses capacity!

[ryba]

Or added schrapnel? Wheres the blast shield? You'll need it if the 1st stage ever gets plugged or looses capacity!

It's too expensive for me :] I like beer more than Safety devices. I know what can do too big high pressure on 2nd stage when 1st is broken.

[Marvin]

It's too expensive for me :] I like beer more than Safety devices. I know what can do too big high pressure on 2nd stage when 1st is broken.

It is your choice, but remember that safety devices an save your life, and beer can destroy it.
Thats for everyone : Dont do that.

[Xeon th MG Pony]

Natural selection in progress people.

[n00b 0f l337]

Especially with a hand valve for an oil sep, you have no idea if the oil might freeze and your pressures might spike. YOu could be dead and not know it.
But as xeon said, natural selection at its finest. (Though technically not true since darwinism ends when we affect our survival rate, so quit warning him :P jk)

[Gray Mole]

It's too expensive for me :] I like beer more than Safety devices. I know what can do too big high pressure on 2nd stage when 1st is broken.

I somehow missed this thread, and the underlying attitude toward safety in it.

I am going to leave the thread here for now, and only this one last post to underpin what has already been said.

Safety is important. More important than 'beer' as you've put it. More important than making a few extra euro or dollars or pounds on selling a unit.

Sometimes it appears like safety is pushed too hard in here, and if you feel that way I'm really sorry to hear it.

I would like to state for those reading and thinking that 'if he does it this way, why shouldn't I?' to please think again. Making a cascade requires more than just 'your reflexes' to be safe. Newer members should look at this as an example of what NOT to do in terms of safety, and a poor attitude towards it.

Regards,

Gray