Forward: official GIGA 965P-S3/DS3/DS4/DQ6 beta BIOS

[OnLine]

I had to find out what the actuals are for my board. .

normal and +.3 same at OC FSB pretty much what they found out here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=107692&page=2
months ago.

Here's my 965P-S3 F7 MCH readings.

stock 266x7
actual bios setting
1.277V normal
1.373V +.1
1.468V +.2
1.556V +.3

400x7
1.571V normal
1.379V +.1
1.473V +.2
1.572V +.3

450x7
1.575V normal
1.381V +.1
1.476V +.2
1.574V +.3

480x7
1.578V normal
1.381V +.1
1.477V +.2
1.578V +.3

500x7
1.577V normal
1.477V +.2
no boot at +.1 & +.3

and just to be sure because memory.
vdimm 450x7
2.12V +.3
2.22V +.4
2.32V +.5
2.42V +.6

480x7
2.32V +.5

As I was taking the readings, I kept thinking: All I've got to do is touch the lead over there and my cold boot issues with F7 will be over.

Now that was nice work with a DMM , I'd have done the reading mysef if it weren't for;

#1) I'm a lazy guy.
#2) My DMM is crap, can't really trust a 10 yo, $15 DMM.
#3) The MOSFET with V(g)mch reading point is AFAIK hidden behind the graphics card, can't reach it.

Interesting seeing Normal = +0.3V when in OC mode. That was news to me.
Think I'll stick to +0.1/+0.2V. I feel more comfortable with that.

Great!

Edit: Ha Ha, Your Vdimm readings shows voltage(s) exactly like my DMM do, which probably means my DMM isn't so crap after all. Good to know that too.

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@skitlets: Yep!

[KenzoIX]

What??? DS3 automatically increases the MCH voltage when oc? How about FSB and PCI-E voltage?

[burn what?]

finally! got solid oc 24/7 and am done f...ing with it. for those with cold boot issues, i highly recommend going back to f5. if it were more stable i'd keep a small horse in it, and not bad recovery for failed oc's. keeps my oc at 430x8 1:1 all day. settings:

multi = 8
fsb = 430
pcie = 102
ram multi = 2
all other ram timings are on auto
all voltages are on normal after seeing handle's post. thanks.

after all that just leave on normal works at those speeds. so simple. i can warm boot up to 450x8, haven't tried over that, but it won't hold at 440 or above. then do get the cold boot issue. may hold in higher 430's but a few ticks ain't worth it. i need more cpu speed than mem speed so not going to lower the multi and try higher mem frequencies. from what i read i believe f5 does have d9 issue so those running in the 1000's prob not for u.

i'm dual booting vista64 and xp now so can post some screenies to check out. idle temps are 36-40C and load in high 50's. i think i can live with these volts and temps for a while anyway, next move is to H2O

dnottis, if you do still have the board it's ur turn to check the next bios for cold boots!!!!!


OH YEAH, HAPPY 07 TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!

[HamidFULL]

OMG ... guys sorry for my bad you are right
largon : Tanx a lot
KenzoIX : yes when it say system voltage optimized means it will bump other voltage depends on your OC
burn what? : Nice please give me your patriots serial its +EP oe +SL?
did you see here : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3792
t800 : before use http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3792 you could reach how much of MHz!?

[aldamon]

As I was taking the readings, I kept thinking: All I've got to do is touch the lead over there and my cold boot issues with F7 will be over.

Wishful thinking. The DS3 would find a way to rise from the dead and torture you some more.

[Richard Dower]

F8 bios is F**KED!!...first off there is an error with the new QFlash, i had beta F8c and it had version 2.00 for QFlash...i connected my Floppy as normal inserted the Floppy and it gave me "master boot record invalid"...wtf??

It said to press any key, so i did and this new window opens up and says Floppy, so i press enter and then it check the sub directory and finds the F8 bios....what the hell?

Why all the hassle and added layers of rubbish to read off a damn Floppy?
Something also changed with the updated QFlash...it now says "update main bios from drive", as opposed to Floppy?....why?

Does this mean QFlash can now flash from say a USB flash drive?
There is a new bios option called Advanced Chipset Features?...all it shows is some GBe LAN (Enable/Disable) and two other options that are not changeable one being IDE-R...huh?

While i have OC to my normal 425x8 it was nesscary to increase G(MCH) and FSB by 0.1V, with F7 and previous bios this was never the case, i never needed a voltage bump....add to this i haven't even shut down the PC yet to see if the cold boot issue exists, but will do soon.

Dammit GB why the hell do you keeping introducing bugs? and you gits never updated the Intel Matrix bios ROM, it's STILL 6.0.0.1022

[markopoleo]

People told you before to use @bios, why don't you just do that like most people do?

[vocch]

DS4 F7 bios absolute utter crap...and a total waste of time....get reboot on my 24/7 o/c...don't even get to windows @ 7x500fsb....which can do NO PROBLEM on F4!

[Richard Dower]

I shut down for 30 mins and she booted back in at 425x8:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=152096

It's it's FREEZING cold right now in Limerick!

[Richard Dower]

People told you before to use @bios, why don't you just do that like most people do?

Because @bios sucks?, the PROPER way to flash is using a Floppy drive, if however GB have updated QFlash to allow for flashing by a USB flash drive i will use that, but i still need a Floppy...or at least until Vista drops, and those unattended Windows CD's always crap out on me.

[Richard Dower]

DS4 F7 bios absolute utter crap...and a total waste of time....get reboot on my 24/7 o/c...don't even get to windows @ 7x500fsb....which can do NO PROBLEM on F4!

500FSB?...bloomin 'ell....man i WISH i could get to 500FSB, i can't get past 445 with any bios i have tried.

I'm hoping to new rev 2.0 board which arrives tomorrow will be better for me.

[Richard Dower]

Speed bump!...when using the new Intel Matrix Storage drivers version 6.2.1.1002 (dated Oct. 31st 2006) i got a good 2MB/s speed increase.

I am now hitting 140MB/s with my RAID array...woot!
Now Lestat...don't tell me and updated bios ROM would now help!, i bet it would boost performance even more.

[t800]

t800 : before use http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3792 you could reach how much of MHz!?

Well 9x300 or something, but it didn't or whole F7 bios haven't any effect on that 399mhz fbs wall which is problem with any bios at now. I can run in windows 9x445mhz 24/7 prime stable, but setting 9x400 in boot, i get in boot screen, where comes text "dual memory enabled bla bla", then rig boots at 9x266.

[dnottis]

Well 9x300 or something, but it didn't or whole F7 bios haven't any effect on that 399mhz fbs wall which is problem with any bios at now. I can run in windows 9x445mhz 24/7 prime stable, but setting 9x400 in boot, i get in boot screen, where comes text "dual memory enabled bla bla", then rig boots at 9x266.

Thats the cold boot problem. Looks like you got bug bitten!
I finally went back to my p5b-e which is prime stable to the same speeds but doesnt reset my OC every other cold boot.

[markopoleo]

Because @bios sucks?, the PROPER way to flash is using a Floppy drive, if however GB have updated QFlash to allow for flashing by a USB flash drive i will use that, but i still need a Floppy...or at least until Vista drops, and those unattended Windows CD's always crap out on me.

Whoever put that in your head is so wrong. Flashing with floppy is not the proper way to do it, sure it was in like early 1990s when all there was was floppy drives and zip drives. I remember using the first windows utility to flash bios in windows 95 and never EVER had a problem with it on hundreds of systems over the years. In fact most servers now flash with software cause does not require going to location.

One could argue flashing with floppy is worst method now.

edit: Asus is soon going to be %100 software in windows flashing. They must not like your proper way i guess..

[Charloz24]

Whoever put that in your head is so wrong. Flashing with floppy is not the proper way to do it, sure it was in like early 1990s when all there was was floppy drives and zip drives. I remember using the first windows utility to flash bios in windows 95 and never EVER had a problem with it on hundreds of systems over the years. In fact most servers now flash with software cause does not require going to location.

One could argue flashing with floppy is worst method now.

edit: Asus is soon going to be %100 software in windows flashing. They must not like your proper way i guess..

QFT

Floppy is dead for many people now including me. @bios work very well and I tried every BIOS/BETA BIOS that GB did and never had problem at all.

[Tac0]

Whoever put that in your head is so wrong. Flashing with floppy is not the proper way to do it, sure it was in like early 1990s when all there was was floppy drives and zip drives. I remember using the first windows utility to flash bios in windows 95 and never EVER had a problem with it on hundreds of systems over the years. In fact most servers now flash with software cause does not require going to location.

One could argue flashing with floppy is worst method now.

edit: Asus is soon going to be %100 software in windows flashing. They must not like your proper way i guess..

Just my I have puked a few bios flashes using software/internet flash utilities...the last time it happened to be a Gigabyte 478 board a couple years ago...that being said I have never borked a flash with a floppy, ever. Probably just jinxed my next one

[markopoleo]

Well im sure some have borked both ways, but I doubt the % between the 2 are no different now-a-days. Just when you know dell ships computers without floppy drives, its hard to argue floppy drive is "proper" way.

[dnottis]

Just my I have puked a few bios flashes using software/internet flash utilities...the last time it happened to be a Gigabyte 478 board a couple years ago...that being said I have never borked a flash with a floppy, ever. Probably just jinxed my next one

Ive borked a few with a floppy, nothing like getting read errors halfway through a bios flash....

[burn what?]

[QUOTE=HamidFULL]
burn what? : Nice please give me your patriots serial its +EP oe +SL?
did you see here : http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=3792QUOTE]

someone else asked me that a while back and it's LL i guess? it's rated at 44412 i believe. here is the part # PDC22G6400LLK, i got it from the egg. i did see that post, and i have hit 1000 and over in the past doing your bumping method, the problem has always been cold boots. once i shut down, the next restart it either loops endlessly, which i call loop and poop cause it shiiites all over itself, or just sets the cpu host control back to disabled and boots at 266fsb. that's the cold boot issue. tell your friends at gb to turn their computer off after they get over 1000 with their awesome method and maybe they'll see what the f we're talking about. you have a ds4, so maybe yours holds it's oc better than the ds3, or you got a lucky board of the lot

[Tac0]

Ive borked a few with a floppy, nothing like getting read errors halfway through a bios flash....

Ah, well...I'm sure most here do more flashing than I do

[handle]

Its been fun and I'm calling this build done. When I started the goal I had was to get E6600 stock performance out of this E6300, then the next goal was X6800. I could not a have reached that goal without all of the input from the board members. Thanks for all the info.

I've settled on S3 F6 and 480x7 for daily use. I can turn my system off and on as often as I like. That's kind of important to me. Hooked up water this morning. Silence, that's important too.


I'm not flashing again my cmos popped-up an IDTenT error “You have exceeded your allotted writes, do not flash me again. This is your last and only warning.”
What the hell is an ID10T error?

[Richard Dower]

Still holding my overclock, but i'm keeping an eye on it.

[therat]

I'm not flashing again my cmos popped-up an IDTenT error “You have exceeded your allotted writes, do not flash me again. This is your last and only warning.”
What the hell is an ID10T error?

From what i've been told it usually means flashing with the wrong or bad bios file but I'm not sure.

Someone will know for sure tho.

[vocch]

500FSB?...bloomin 'ell....man i WISH i could get to 500FSB, i can't get past 445 with any bios i have tried.

I'm hoping to new rev 2.0 board which arrives tomorrow will be better for me.

IMO it's down to just being lucky with the hardware you got and people hoping to get 500fsb+ with a new bios on DS4 seems like they will have a long wait as from F6 they seem to be getting worse as with my E6600 on F5 i could hit up to 512fsb...then tried F6 and no go @ 500fsb....Now with my E6300 with F4,F5, can get up to 500fsb and not a penny over....again using F6,F7....no go @ 500FSB!

Here's a screenshot F4 @ 500fsb.