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    I wonder how to mod vdd too ? please someone can say word !!

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    I've had this board + FX-55 for a little over a week now, and am still trying to take in all this information. This is my very first AMD system, and as such a lot of this is new to me. Just wondering if this sounds about right to you all.

    BIOS 1.36 Beta
    Voltage: 1.55 + 3.3% by VID which gives me 1.58-1.60 actual according to MBM, running 10 x 275 (2750mhz)
    Memory: Gskill TCCD @ 2.75v running at 275HTT 2.5-3-3-7-1T
    AGP Voltage for 6800GT OC @ 1.65v
    My temps read around 37C Idle, max i've seen is 57C (Thermaltake Venus 12)
    I'm using a PCP&C 510 Deluxe in this system

    Most of the other settings i've just been doing what everyone else has used. Just wondering if those voltages look about right for what i'm running. Anything less than that on volts and it reboots, this seems stable right now. I heard 1.65v is the most you want to go on an A64 (air)?

    On a side note, my rails vary A LOT depending on which proggy i use. I'm seeing numbers as low as 11.4 on the 12+ rail, and for having the PSU i have, can i trust these readings? I am gonna test it with a multimeter as soon as i can, but all my rails look like crap on the sensors for this board.

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    Question

    What is the advantage by increasing the AGP voltage?
    Does it improve your o/c?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [ r2 ]
    What is the advantage by increasing the AGP voltage?
    Does it improve your o/c?
    Just on my graphics card. And when i had it lower before i did the 1.4v mod on my 6800 GT, it would reboot. I guess i can lower it down, but i've always run 1.6 on my 9800's.

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    which sticks should take for winchester 3000+ ???

    I have only 2 x 512 hynix d43 and 2 x 512 buffalo winbond ch5

    PLEASE HELP

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    try them and see which oc better

    ----- AMD K6-2 300 "Chomper" xxxxx xxxx xxxx /// 300 MHz @ 2,200 V -----
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    ----- AMD Athlon XP-M 2600+ "Barton" IQYHA 0401 XPMW /// 2500 MHz @ 1,750 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon 64 3000+ "Newcastle CG" xxxxx 0418 WPMW /// 2600 MHz @ 1,600 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon 64 3200+ "Winchester D0" xxxxx 0433 SPMW /// 2750 MHz @ 1,616 V -----

    ----- AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE "Callisto" xxxxx xxxx xxxx /// 4080MHz @ 1,375 V -----
    ----- AMD Ryzen "Zen" xxxxx xxxx xxxx /// TBA @ TBA -----

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    i'm not afford to have them both

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    I have been messing with this board for 3-4 days 18hrs a day getting down all the small issues it has and i'm about to give up. I had the board running at 260 fsb with some bh-5 1:1 2-2-2-5 and it was moving great until i ran into this issue: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=45309

    This sub zero cold boot issue is driving me insane.
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    Is there diffrent revisions of this board? I just wonder cause I got mine today
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    Nope, just the Rev. 1.0!
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    Nice Then I cant get so much crappier board then others
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiCKE^
    Nice Then I cant get so much crappier board then others
    of course you can

    u have to look at the NB-revision

    if it's produced in TAIWAN (weeks beforce 0418A2) your max will be around 260-280MHz 1:1 - when your NB has a revision AFTER 0418A2, then it's established in KOREA and it should work >300MHz

    ----- AMD K6-2 300 "Chomper" xxxxx xxxx xxxx /// 300 MHz @ 2,200 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon XP 1700+ "Thouroghbred B" JIUHB 0306 MPMW /// 2400 MHz @ 1,900 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ "Barton" AQXEA 0327 UPMW /// 2450 MHz @ 1,850 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon XP-M 2600+ "Barton" IQYHA 0401 XPMW /// 2500 MHz @ 1,750 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon 64 3000+ "Newcastle CG" xxxxx 0418 WPMW /// 2600 MHz @ 1,600 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon 64 3200+ "Winchester D0" xxxxx 0433 SPMW /// 2750 MHz @ 1,616 V -----

    ----- AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE "Callisto" xxxxx xxxx xxxx /// 4080MHz @ 1,375 V -----
    ----- AMD Ryzen "Zen" xxxxx xxxx xxxx /// TBA @ TBA -----

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4z1f1st
    of course you can

    u have to look at the NB-revision

    if it's produced in TAIWAN (weeks beforce 0418A2) your max will be around 260-280MHz 1:1 - when your NB has a revision AFTER 0418A2, then it's established in KOREA and it should work >300MHz
    You mean HTT > 300Mhz with what's LDT ? 3 or 4 ?

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    I just took a look at my NB.. and at first I saw Taiwan, and my heart dropped.

    But strangely, the week was like 0440something.. I'll check the bios revision on the board when I book it up tonight with a 3200 .9mm! Wish me luck for 300HTT >

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    Oh yes, Oh yes!!!!
    Thanks Kyosen
    My crappy NB (before the magic week) stopping at 270FSB dual channel while going past 300FSB on single channel is not stopping me anymore
    The VDD mod did wonders (upped it .2v total for now) and I am rock stable past 300FSB now. I need to rework on getting correct dividers, etc as well as memory timing now that all seems have changed with this single mod. HoooRAY
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    Question VDD mod?

    Where did you get the VDD mod details? Kyosen?

    can you post?

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    Hmz I didnt look @ my nb number but I saw on the box that it was made in China. Will that confirm it or do I have too take off my nb cooler?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiCKE^
    Hmz I didnt look @ my nb number but I saw on the box that it was made in China. Will that confirm it or do I have too take off my nb cooler?
    Take it of and have a look, won't take long...

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    Well, I put the MSI on my Vapo LS today...

    First run, and all seems good except keyboard and mouse (PS2). Take them to USB and all seems to work fine.
    A couple of windows reboots (ordered by me), and then Vapo LS software install. EDIT: I must say that the Vapo was programed to boot at -10º, and after install software, I programed it to boot at -30º
    Don't know why, after this, the system hangs in boot screen after DDR post and before HDD detection...

    ->Take off extra sensors bought in asetek website, and that I can't put to work with the Vapo.
    ->Take off vcore mod, that seems not to work (BTW, can someone explain and place some pics about vcore mod?).
    ->Take off battery, because can't reach reset cmos jumper (because wi-fi card), and place it again.

    Same hang...
    Any thoughts?

    BTW, vcore mod (with 25K pot)... is like this?


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    Same hang...
    What CPU?
    I suppose you have read the threads on cold settings with winchesters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by split
    What CPU?
    I suppose you have read the threads on cold settings with winchesters?

    Winchester 3500+...
    Yes, I'm reading the other related threads also.

    Thank You!
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    I decided to give this board another try....I posted earlier of problems with my first one, now returned with dead usb ports, floppy controller and more

    So far everything has gone smoothly. Updated the bios to 1.30, put in my second OCZ stick. Time has now come to tweak this thing, so I have many questions for you:

    1. How do I access the hidden options in the bios? I tried in the main window, pressing shift+F2 + Alt+F3 but no luck.

    2. AGP is set to 67, is this enough to activate the pci-lock? I don't want to start pushing untill I'm sure it's activated.

    3. Ram settings:

    How do I go about clocking? I need an explenation of how fsb, HT freq and timings are related. I'm hoping to press towards 270mhz, at least when I get my watercooling sorted.

    If someone has a list of how the different options are set in bios it would be a great help.

    I guess that will be all for now

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    You only see diferences with shift+f2 alt+f3 in the sub-menus and not in the main menu... Not like gigabyte boards...

    So, do shift+f2 and then alt+f3 and you can see differences, for example, in the "cell" menu. Try to do this inside this menu, besides the main menu, to see the change in the disponible options...
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    Hello guys , i have what i think is a problem , i have a msi k8n neo2 with the vio with one a normal enermex giving 3.28 volts to the bh5 .
    With the dual channel activated i can´t go over 225/230 , in single channel i can´t pass 255.
    Is there anything i must do to gain oc with the dual channel ?
    My cpu can reach 2700 on ar for bench and i liked to bench 1:1 and super pi and so on .
    I´m buying a ocz next week .

    Cumps guys [[]]

    Edit :

    A friend sayd me that can be the mems controller in the cpu that is wasted , is that possible ?


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    Last edited by |-jokker-|; 11-11-2004 at 04:26 AM.

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