Ryzen - Return of the Jedi

[Formula350]

Chew, have you seen bios 1.73? It has an additional 8 or 9 memory settings. As you said I can not get over 3333mhz. On 1.73 bios I got there without disabling BGS. Of course that was on 2 dimms. I have yet to figure a way to get above 2667 on my 4 dimms of Flares X DDR4 3200. I think it is time for me two put the second 16GB dimm kit on sale on Ebay. At least I'll have a down payment on my Vega card that I'll buy in 2 months.

Hey bud, fancy seeing you here! LOL
Yea I posted and told him about all the new mem settings on the previous page and linked him one of my modded BIOSes with the SB SpreadSpectrum and PowerSaving disabled :P

I hate to see folks struggling with RAM, since at this point (in the industry, not Ryzen's lifecycle) you'd expect things to be working far better. However, as people have pointed out, even Intel had teething issues with their first DDR4 :\ I'm on the fence about what I'd do in your shoes. Part of me thinks that yea, might be better to offload the other kit.... But, part of me thinks that kit prices may only go up due to demand once more Ryzens get into consumer hands, nevermind when Threadripper lands on the market. As such, perhaps it'd be better to hold onto them? I dunno <_>

Btw i just did some SPD profile snooping...I need to do some testing to verify but....they look like they were flashed with a very "loose" profile.

I just compared vs Trident -z 3200,3600 bins vets flare X....plug and play load xmp...3200 tridents should be fastest if you set 3200 14-14-14-34 and just go.

Here's something I've been wondering about SPD and memory on these systems, and had actually asked os2wiz about on [H] forum heh
If you take a TridentZ CL14 B-Die kit, and a FlareX CL14 B-Die kit, ran them both on the same system with all timings set to Auto, not running any profiles at all, would their timings differ at all?

I ask because when I set 3200 manually all the subtimings etc, are the exact same as what they are if I apply A-XMP. Even the tRC, which on my CL15 TridentZ kit's XMP SPD it's tRC 50 and tFAW 39, but Auto still shows the usual of 75 and 34 (respectively). So is the BIOS actually calculating timings based on timing tabled in the DIMM, or is it all pre-programmed?
If it'd help, I can upload another BIOS with the DRAM Patch ID option unhidden, but I just figured it wasn't of much use and leave it off.

Also I feel like L3 speed in AIDA is an indicator of RAM instability. No background task is running but Read speed is wwwwway low at 257gb/s...
EDIT: and maybe Latency? The usual for me lately has been 71ns, but this run it's been consistently 75ns +-0.3, which I'm running 3200 at 14-14-14, timings I've already wondered the stability at.