Originally Posted by
tajoh111
The bias come forth when your typically optimistic about AMD and pessimistic about Nvidia. I remember you said the 7990 was going to come out shortly after the gtx 690 and that didn't happen.
It also relate currently about this topic where it might have been possible for Nvidia to release the gtx 780 release a year ago.
Considering some of AMD's releases recently like its 7990( some rumors were there was like a 1000 cards for launch) or the fx-9590 which were all high priced, extremely low volume parts, I think if Nvidia had wanted to at the time, they could have delivered a volume similar to those products. But they didn't.
One possibly reason which would be reasonable is they simply didn't want to cannibalize their gtx 680.
GTX 680's were still priced closer to 500 dollars at the time and were plentiful and easy for Nvidia to make. What would happen if something like a $650 gtx 780 popped up? Sure they would sell every single one of those cards, lets say 20,000 cards(cards that didnt make k20x) at $650. But the hundreds of thousands of gtx 680 that had no supply issues couldn't be sold for 500 anymore. It wouldn't be a flagship any more and at 650, the gtx 780 would be the better value considering their price difference and performance difference. The pricing of the gtx 780 only makes sense and doesn't cause as much cannibalization when the street price of the gtx 680 falls to 400 or less.
But what your saying LordECC without any proof and just say I know is it couldn't be done. They couldn't release it. If AMD was in the reverse situation, you might take the positive upshot(like the 7990 release).
If you want me to give you an example of this attitude and bias, lets look at Charlie from semiaccurate(don't worry your not this biased). When rx-xxx was leaked he was saying it was the end for Nvidia, they are screwed because of AMD's all new lineup is going to put Nvidia to the curb. He lightly mentions that some of the cards are rebrands but he talks up Hawaii like the second coming of Christ. When he was talking about gk110, he said the performance was underwhelming and underperforming, screaming at the top of his fingers that the gtx 770 was a rebrand. And he completely ignored hawaii is coming 8 months after gk110.
If we look at what AMD is doing with this launch aside from mantle, is releasing their Nvidia equivalent of the 7xx series 8 months later. Its hardly going to screw Nvidia besides put some pressure to lower the price of some of their products to have margins which resemble AMD's, rather than the record margins before this launch.
What I am trying to get at is you resemble to a lesser extent this negative outlook Charlie has. Talking up AMD and putting down Nvidia.
And lets look at the big picture, Hawaii's launch time was needed a long time ago. It was needed because the price of the 7970 and the rest of the lineup has fallen so far to the point AMD was barely breaking even on the graphics card division. Not having a new lineup has depressed the price of Tahiti so much that tahiti cards can be found at half the price of their initial value( and this price drop isn't a result of their own cards). It's coming out 8 months after gk110, and during this time AMD has lost a lot of potential revenue through shrinking margins.
Hawaii is on schedule from a roadmap stand point but late from a financial standpoint because it has caused them to lose a lot of potential revenue.
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