AMD to launch Volcanic Islands GPU (HD8000s) in 2013

[LordEC911]

Nowhere they said GTX 690 sold poorly. Titan just sold much better than they expected.

You seem to be coming with your opinions as facts a lot recently. You should cut the BS. It's getting old.

Yep, I agree, I worded that poorly. I meant GTX690 sold poorly compared to Titan.
As far as that second part, that is your opinion. While I do have a slight bias, I don't post BS.

That is patently false. The GTX 690 exceeded the expectations of retailers, board partners and NVIDIA alike. So much so that they produced a second run months later and the cards you see in stock now are from a third, more limited run.

So a, artificially, limited Titan availability outselling a product that has been on the market for a year in less than 3 months somehow equates to both of them selling like hotcakes?
Gotcha... BTW- Have you seen the numbers for Titan units shipped to AIBs?

You do not understand the fan and/or viral marketing world very well Sky.

If you're an AMD fan or viral marketeer, NVIDIA says,"We are shocked at how many people paid $1000 for 690s, but we're even more shocked a lot more people paid $1000 for Titans! Thank you for giving us record margins all you people with $1000 in your pockets!" but all you see is "690s sold very badly. Titans are doing a little better, but can't really be expected to succeed due to the lower performance.".

You have no room to talk about viral marketeers. You are a shill through and through.

Lordecc always takes the most negative view on Nvidia. It isn't a surprise.

Gtx 690 had to sell reasonable well for Nvidia to even consider the 1000 dollar price point for the gtx titan. Also, the gtx 690 never had a price drop which typically happen after sales are bad, e.g like the whole 7xxx series after the gtx 6xx series came out(this is to just rub it in lordecc face a bit).

Most negative? Nope.
FYI- You don't drop prices on your halo dual GPU cards with extremely limited volume even if they are selling poorly.

The issue here is that AMD publicly said they won't have anything to replace their high end cards this year. To me, that holds more truth than rumors.

As it stands now, NVIDIA is essentially AT LEAST a half generation ahead of AMD. AMD needed a refresh which is something that should have happened five months ago. Instead, they will suddenly find themselves competing against refreshed NVIDIA cards that will walk all over them, necessitating price cuts.

To make matters worse, if AMD can't achieve at least a 75% performance increase over Tahiti XT with the next generation, NVIDIA won't even need Maxwell. They'll just reduce the price of TITAN, release a fully enabled GK110 and wait until Maxwell is fully baked.

And let's not forget AMD's track record on launches. We have constantly seen them release a card to reviewers only to make it available weeks or sometimes even months later. So Q4 2013? In the world of AMD launches, that means absolutely, positively nothing.

The fact that you can't read through the lines or listen to the massive amount of hints out there, even back in February, doesn't mean all of us are the same way.
Remember kids, Nvidia decided to rehash GK100 for fun and decided to hold onto GK110 even though they could have released it back in 1H '12.... Give it a rest.
Paper launches? You might want to harp on Nvidia a little.

Of course I have but I put about zero credibility behind rumors.

Instead, I refer you to this official AMD slide:



If you want a transcript of their Q&A session with analysts, I can provide that as well. But here is a direct passage:

Brandon (press): Are you saying that the HD 7970 gigahertz edition will be your flagship single gpu card for the rest of 2013?

Devon Nekechuk (AMD): Yes, that is exactly what we are saying. While other cards will be rolled out throughout the year to fill out some segments, the ghz edition will remain in a top tier spot for the remainder of the year.
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I can provide links to plenty of sites from TR to Anandtech to Tom's which received the exact same info.

So either one of AMD's premier product managers and pretty much their entire international product team told us the wrong info (which I highly doubt) or there's some viral marketing going on in an effort to blunt NVIDIA's upcoming launches.

Take your pick but I'm certainly not going to hold off on any purchases based on a rumor that runs contrary to everything AMD has been saying for the past five months.

To me, this smells of the same BS that went down when people and several sites hilariously assumed the "Solar System" parts were AMD's next gen desktop parts. Oh how the rumors flew then.

Again though; I say this in relation to high end SKUs. It's completely possible that AMD will have a lower end 20nm pipe-cleaning product in 2013 followed by a broader rollout in 2014.

Official AMD slide and Q/A session that you completely misinterpreted...
We have already gone through this if you want to keep playing dumb and ignorant, well so be it, but it sounds more like you shilling for Nvidia.

Great spin. So basically Fermi wasn't late it was a half generation ahead?

Also, GK110 wasn't late but launched early.