Today's Numbers: Get 'Em While They're Hot!

[bluestang]

If only we could get UPS or FedEx to donate free shipping so we can send each other our rigs when the seasons make it impractical to crunch

[BlindFreddie]

I wonder if it would be safe to run boinc on my laptop or would it burst in flames

The CPU fan will probably run continuously, so it may wear out prematurely, plus the fan & heatsink fins may accumulate dust & lint & need cleaning more often than in a less-used machine. If you can cope with that, go for it.
Cooling tips: Blow air from an external fan onto it when that would not affect you using it. Blowing air against the CPU fan intake or across the fan outlet would aid the internal fan. If no ext fan is available, tip the machine on its side when you're not using it. If necessary, reduce the output of the machine. Reducing CPU speed using the standard (Windows) Power Settings has the advantage that it will reduce Vcore as well as speed, but this may drop speed more than you want. The alternative is to reduce the % of time that the CPU crunches. BOINC can do this but the sleep periods are multiples of 1 sec (generic Unix minimum timing increment). Suggest using Threadmaster or Tthrottle instead.

Better still, go get a 4770K CPU, cheap motherboard & RAM, an old HDD or put Linux and BOINC on a USB stick, etc etc, and really crunch some numbers

... when the seasons make it impractical to crunch

Huh? I never switch machines off or reduce clocks in summer, and don't have aircon. And I leave the house unattended for a couple of weeks over Xmas/New Year. One day in Jan this year the official max temp was over 45 deg C, a record, and my machines crunched on. (A corsair RAM stick went flaky about then tho, but I think that was coincidence). Just get high-end cooling, overclock only as far as you can without having to raise voltage much, and then just let 'em cook for the hottest week or 2 each year.

But we're OT

[yojimbo197]

I wonder if it would be safe to run boinc on my laptop or would it burst in flames

Depending on the day, I have both of our laptops going. We use Thermaltake laptop coolers that I got on sale at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Ma...+laptop+cooler

I also squirt a few blasts of compressed air into the exhaust and intake vents every 2-3 weeks.

[yojimbo197]

I'm perfectly happy to believe the former and give everyone the chance to play it that way (as in come back and just say "Whoops! App-config messed me up. My bad.") ... but there have been one or two people demonstrate the latter. No need to name people, they know who they are. Their character has been tested (and not very hard at that), and they have been found wanting.

I am guilty, though I was trying to split two rigs for different projects. The i5 rig is already back on WCG full time. The Q9550 rig should be back on WCG full time after I clear out some POEM WU's.

[Sparky]

haha crack that whip D_A

I've been browsing for hot deals on another i7 recently. My first gen had a really bad IHS that made it run hot and the triple channel memory was annoying, so I sold it and switched my work PC to a simple Core 2. Well, that's leaving a lot to be desired, so I'm thinking of picking up a 2nd hand 2nd gen i7 if I can find a decent deal. I'm house shopping however, and the cars are begging me for more money this year (tires on both, ouch) so I'm watching the budget.

[D_A]

haha crack that whip D_A

I've been browsing for hot deals on another i7 recently. My first gen had a really bad IHS that made it run hot and the triple channel memory was annoying, so I sold it and switched my work PC to a simple Core 2. Well, that's leaving a lot to be desired, so I'm thinking of picking up a 2nd hand 2nd gen i7 if I can find a decent deal. I'm house shopping however, and the cars are begging me for more money this year (tires on both, ouch) so I'm watching the budget.

Don't get me wrong, people have their own circumstances to deal with. I get that. I've had to retire 90% of my own hardware due to ridiculous power costs and the heat for some people makes it impractical to do much. Others just don't have the income to support this activity. I have no problem with any of that, we do what we can with what we've got. On the other hand, when someone pulls the "Wahhhhh! I want more GPU work or I'm leaving and taking my bat and ball with me!" routine I have no sympathy. Crunching is an activity for adults with a long term perspective and a degree of altruism, not little children with less attention span than a goldfish and no interest beyond their personal point score.

[OldChap]

........Crunching is an activity for adults with a long term perspective and a degree of altruism, not little children with less attention span than a goldfish and no interest beyond their personal point score.

It may take me a couple more weeks to get up and running properly.... trying to think how best to deploy the MOAF....... Possibly even in the attic.

[D_A]

It may take me a couple more weeks to get up and running properly.... trying to think how best to deploy the MOAF....... Possibly even in the attic.

Hmm. Humour. An adult trait!

[wplachy]

--- XtremeSystems ---
9,063,093

10 May 2013

WCG Team Stats - Todays Points
----------------------------------
IBM....................79,114,947
Team 2ch............28,576,442
Marist College.......15,644,859
Sony VAIO Team...11,933,361
Easynews............11,142,439
XtremeSystems......9,063,093



WCG Team Stats - All-Time Points
-----------------------------------
1. Team 2ch..........53,833,492,655
2. XtremeSystems..33,952,463,458
3. IBM..................32,821,843,264

[0ne.shot]

Don't get me wrong, people have their own circumstances to deal with. I get that. I've had to retire 90% of my own hardware due to ridiculous power costs and the heat for some people makes it impractical to do much. Others just don't have the income to support this activity. I have no problem with any of that, we do what we can with what we've got. On the other hand, when someone pulls the "Wahhhhh! I want more GPU work or I'm leaving and taking my bat and ball with me!" routine I have no sympathy. Crunching is an activity for adults with a long term perspective and a degree of altruism, not little children with less attention span than a goldfish and no interest beyond their personal point score.

I agree with you 100%. The extra points from HCC GPU were nice, but our main goal is crunching WUs in the long term. I often hear people decide to crunch one or more of the current WCG projects*only* when someone close to them is affected with an illness that one or more of the current WCG projects may help find a cure for. Yet, if the person decided to run a project, it is often for a very short time. The mentality of people who only help when it personally affects them irritates me immensely.

[wplachy]

--- XtremeSystems ---
8,877,157

11 May 2013


WCG Team Stats - Todays Points
----------------------------------
IBM....................61,342,556
Team 2ch............27,963,186
Marist College.......14,899,429
Sony VAIO Team...11,413,642
Easynews............10,197,711
XtremeSystems......8,877,157


WCG Team Stats - All-Time Points
-----------------------------------
Team 2ch..........53,861,455,841
XtremeSystems..33,961,340,615
IBM..................32,883,185,820

[Movieman]

--- XtremeSystems ---
8,877,157

11 May 2013


WCG Team Stats - Todays Points
----------------------------------
IBM....................61,342,556
Team 2ch............27,963,186
Marist College.......14,899,429
Sony VAIO Team...11,413,642
Easynews............10,197,711
XtremeSystems......8,877,157


WCG Team Stats - All-Time Points
-----------------------------------
Team 2ch..........53,861,455,841
XtremeSystems..33,961,340,615
IBM..................32,883,185,820

Yup, I don't need a building to fall on me to take a hint..
Time to do something proactive and get this team moving again..

[wplachy]

Yup, I don't need a building to fall on me to take a hint..
Time to do something proactive and get this team moving again..

If I can help let me know how.

Bill P

[0ne.shot]

HCC GPU may have woken up IBM. It looks like they aren't playing anymore.

[wplachy]

--- XtremeSystems ---
9,168,904

12 May 2013


WCG Team Stats - Todays Points
----------------------------------
IBM....................65,832,833
Team 2ch............29,082,879
Marist College.......16,173,740
Sony VAIO Team...11,893,995
Easynews............10,687,010
XtremeSystems......9,168,904


WCG Team Stats - All-Time Points
-----------------------------------
Team 2ch..........53,890,538,720
XtremeSystems..33,970,509,519
IBM..................32,949,018,653

[D_A]

HCC GPU may have woken up IBM. It looks like they aren't playing anymore.

Well, overall that's good for the project. It also confirms they've dedicated a LOT of CPUs so chances are there will be no shortage of CPU only work no matter what new GPU work comes along.

[wplachy]

--- XtremeSystems ---
9,450,930

13 May 2013


WCG Team Stats - Todays Points
----------------------------------
IBM....................84,016,337
Team 2ch............30,359,253
Marist College.......16,031,557
Sony VAIO Team...12,897,162
Easynews............11,866,505
XtremeSystems......9,450,930


WCG Team Stats - All-Time Points
-----------------------------------
Team 2ch..........53,920,897,973
XtremeSystems..33,979,960,449
IBM..................33,033,034,990

[NKrader]

--- XtremeSystems ---
9,450,930

13 May 2013


WCG Team Stats - Todays Points
----------------------------------
IBM....................84,016,337
Team 2ch............30,359,253
Marist College.......16,031,557
Sony VAIO Team...12,897,162
Easynews............11,866,505
XtremeSystems......9,450,930


WCG Team Stats - All-Time Points
-----------------------------------
Team 2ch..........53,920,897,973
XtremeSystems..33,979,960,449
IBM..................33,033,034,990

yikes.. we arent winning anymore lol..

my points were really bad yesterday.. here is to hoping it does better today

[wplachy]

--- XtremeSystems ---
9,321,208

14 May 2013


WCG Team Stats - Todays Points
----------------------------------
IBM....................80,685,853
Team 2ch............28,813,224
Marist College.......15,324,084
Sony VAIO Team...12,649,168
Easynews............11,036,795
XtremeSystems.......9,321,208


WCG Team Stats - All-Time Points*
-----------------------------------
Team 2ch............53,949,711,197
XtremeSystems....33,989,281,657
IBM...................33,113,720,843
Easynews...........20,188,306,604
Marist College......15,013,765,341
Sony VAIO Team....8,515,184,284

*Thought you would like to see where the ones chasing us down are at

[Sparky]

So 9M is our current resting point.

Goals. We need goals.

So, first goal should be to get back above Easynews in the dailies.

[retro77]

Goal 1: 10mil/day [short term]
Goal 2: 100mil/day [long term]

Who's powering up a new system today or maybe just going from part time to full time again? I'll slap another 2600k on the net and bring my current OC'ed 2600k to full time.

Let's do this!

[Sparky]

I've been keeping an eye out for a good deal on a 2nd or 3rd gen i5/i7. Prefer 2nd gen since 3rd has its thermal issues, and I had enough of that with my 1st gen i7.

[Evantaur]

Ordered me a cheap board and 3770K... Yeaaah intel... :S

[wplachy]

--- XtremeSystems ---
9,299,589

15 May 2013


WCG Team Stats - Todays Points
----------------------------------
IBM.....................79,679,147
Team 2ch.............26,999,716
Marist College.......14,953,379
Sony VAIO Team...12,654,530
Easynews.............10,240,746
XtremeSystems.......9,299,589


WCG Team Stats - All-Time Points
-----------------------------------
Team 2ch...........53,976,710,913
XtremeSystems...33,998,581,246
IBM...................33,193,399,990
Easynews............20,198,547,350
Marist College......15,028,718,720
Sony VAIO Team....8,527,838,814

[Rob_B]

With the rigs I have at the moment I'm not sure how to improve my output and still keep things the way I want.

My 2600k is doing fine at 4.5 GHz and watercooled.
The 3770 (non k) is on a cheap mobo that doesn't undervolt. And running hot with the stock cooler and extra fan.
And the HTPC with an i3-540 is running stock speed and undervolted. I would like to upgrade this one to a quadcore. But that would mean adding a GFX card (now using the GFX in the i3) That would add heat and noise. And need more power than the 250 watt PSU can deliver 24/7.

But I will look what I can do. We need to impove as a team. We all know we can do much better.