ASUS Maximus V Forumla/Extreme Official Support Thread

[usoldier]

My system now was constantly crashing with AMD driver stoped responding error, Moved my Ram sticks from the red slots to the black slots and no errors, iam also back at 1604 bios with no problems using turbo multipliers in bios.

Now what could be wrong my ram , mobo , or Cpu ?

My ram is 8gb Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US

Any ideas?

[Raja@ASUS]

Need more info from you guys - what kind of CPU frequency and memory frequency are you running. What happens when CPU is at default and memory is no faster than DDR3-1600? These newer builds have updated microcode, that can change how stable certain DRAM types are when overclocked. If that's part of the cause there may not be much you can do to remedy it apart from relax timings a bit and see if it improves.

[usoldier]

Thanks for the reply Raja@ASUS iam running this setup:

3770k with Turbo multi at x42 iam using Offset overclocking -0.080v (witch translates into 0.808v at idle and 1.650v full load)

The memory was run at stock 11-11-11-28 1.35v and 1.45v to test running Memtest86 gives me no errors left it over night 8 hours .

I have now put the memory back at the Red slots again and its working ok no AMD Driver stoped responding for now.

The only thing diferent now is that ive unpluged my Storage Harddrive Samsung Spinpoint HD203WI 2TB

Now please understand that this drive is only for backup nothing from the system is there. But i do have a issue with this drive on this board.

The drive only works on the two Intel Sata 3.0 Gb/s ports if i conect it to the 6.0 Gb/s ports the drive goes nuts and starts making a horrible noise (like if the read neadle is going back and forth hitting the fisical limits?) and prevents the system from booting.

Do you think that this drive even tho its working fine on the Sata 3.0Gb/s is causing this problems on my system? I have it off for now while testing.

[cadaveca]

Need more info from you guys - what kind of CPU frequency and memory frequency are you running. What happens when CPU is at default and memory is no faster than DDR3-1600? These newer builds have updated microcode, that can change how stable certain DRAM types are when overclocked. If that's part of the cause there may not be much you can do to remedy it apart from relax timings a bit and see if it improves.

For me, this happens at stock. I have used both Corsair Dominator Platinum 2666 C10 @ 1333 MHz(JEDEC) and G.skill TridentX 2666 C11 @ 1600 MHz(JEDEC).


Always 4x4 GB.


I have been doing memory testing for reviews, obviously by my postings. Are you saying you think the BIOS may have been corrupted a bit by me pushing, and then the problems weren't noticed until I had the VGA crash?

I can live with that.


But for me, flashing new BIOS doesn't fix the problem, at least not in all instances. It did fix the new Extreme board when I made the crap happen again, but my old Extreme and my Formula are very much buggered, even after re-flashing the BIOS.

The MEI update...does that reside in each individual BIOS, or somewhere else?

[Raja@ASUS]

ME firmware resides in BIOS. Not an easy thing to flash yourself (at least not officially).

If the new BIOSes are not working out then try rolling back. If no help there, then RMA the board and try another lest there is some kind of weird EC issue. If the new board has the same problem then I suspect it is the way you are pushing the system, or something to do with a weird parts incompatibility.

[Raja@ASUS]

Thanks for the reply Raja@ASUS iam running this setup:

3770k with Turbo multi at x42 iam using Offset overclocking -0.080v (witch translates into 0.808v at idle and 1.650v full load)

The memory was run at stock 11-11-11-28 1.35v and 1.45v to test running Memtest86 gives me no errors left it over night 8 hours .

I have now put the memory back at the Red slots again and its working ok no AMD Driver stoped responding for now.

The only thing diferent now is that ive unpluged my Storage Harddrive Samsung Spinpoint HD203WI 2TB

Now please understand that this drive is only for backup nothing from the system is there. But i do have a issue with this drive on this board.

The drive only works on the two Intel Sata 3.0 Gb/s ports if i conect it to the 6.0 Gb/s ports the drive goes nuts and starts making a horrible noise (like if the read neadle is going back and forth hitting the fisical limits?) and prevents the system from booting.

Do you think that this drive even tho its working fine on the Sata 3.0Gb/s is causing this problems on my system? I have it off for now while testing.

Could be something about that HDD's firmware. When you unplug it, if you dont have the same problems, I guess that answers the question...


Memtest is okay as a quick test but is not 100% bomb-proof.

Wait, 1.65V Vcore under full load on the 42X multplier???? Sounds like a typo. If the negative offset voltage is too low, the system can crash because the VID is insufficient when the load modulates. Try using a static level of Vcore to debug this or decrease the negative offset so the idle voltage is not as low as you have it now. Ideally I would return the CPU to stock, and use static VID (not offset mode) to debug this issue before you do anything else.


If it is not that then I suspect you might need to relax some of the memory sub-timings.

[cadaveca]

ME firmware resides in BIOS. Not an easy thing to flash yourself (at least not officially).

If the new BIOSes are not working out then try rolling back. If no help there, then RMA the board and try another lest there is some kind of weird EC issue. If the new board has the same problem then I suspect it is the way you are pushing the system, or something to do with a weird parts incompatibility.

OK. Why is there a separate MEI update on the download pages of all these boards then, and not just a BIOS update? What is the purpose of this download and update?

Is that the source of my problems, perhaps? Windows8 BIOSes and this update came out at about the same time, MEI update a bit later if I remember correctly.

I mean, I guess it'd be hard for you to know without seeing the board in person, I suppose. I just found it really weird that I have zero problems with the same parts on X79, but not Z77, and no matter what ASUS Z77 board it is, so odd things like that stick out for me.

[zanzabar]

i cannot get the optical in to lock with my cable box (rng110,) it works with my TV, ps3, and 360, but it will not lock with my cable box no matter what. the cable box will work with my receiver in the other room. anyone have an idea?

ME firmware resides in BIOS. Not an easy thing to flash yourself (at least not officially).

If the new BIOSes are not working out then try rolling back. If no help there, then RMA the board and try another lest there is some kind of weird EC issue. If the new board has the same problem then I suspect it is the way you are pushing the system, or something to do with a weird parts incompatibility.

do you guys still sell bios blocks, or rma just the block. if not there is always bios depot on ebay.

also, can you swap the block if it fail flashes, or does it try to flash both at the same time.

[Raja@ASUS]

OK. Why is there a separate MEI update on the download pages of all these boards then, and not just a BIOS update? What is the purpose of this download and update?
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I think you've misunderstood what I meant. I mean there is not an open door to flash any ME you want at any time (officially at least). That update was mandatory that's why it was posted (Win 8 WHQL requirement). It's a flash once affair officially as well, they don't allow going back and forth AFAIK or reflashing the same version again. Hope that makes sense

Unofficially some users have tools that can update the ME. But I didn't tell you that

[Raja@ASUS]

do you guys still sell bios blocks, or rma just the block. if not there is always bios depot on ebay.

also, can you swap the block if it fail flashes, or does it try to flash both at the same time.

Sell BIOS blocks? You mean sell BIOS chips? Not sure about that, you'd need to contact RMA. It depends on what is available. Sometimes it's easier for them to swap out a board.

[zanzabar]

here is what the panel says


i can get other devices to work with the computer, and other devices to work with the cable box, so i dont why they dont like each other.


edit- so apparently only the gene and formula have the good audio setup, and the extreme has the low end crap realtek chip/firmware that comes on base boards, no amp, and only support PCM on the optical since they did not license dolby or creative software for the board (i did not notice the lack of amp since i am running 32ohm headphones right now.) it seams unreasonable that the flagship $450 board does not have the good audio chipset or even the software to use the ports. so it looks like cracking the xfi driver or buying a sound card are the only options. /rant

[usoldier]

Could be something about that HDD's firmware. When you unplug it, if you dont have the same problems, I guess that answers the question...


Memtest is okay as a quick test but is not 100% bomb-proof.

Wait, 1.65V Vcore under full load on the 42X multplier???? Sounds like a typo. If the negative offset voltage is too low, the system can crash because the VID is insufficient when the load modulates. Try using a static level of Vcore to debug this or decrease the negative offset so the idle voltage is not as low as you have it now. Ideally I would return the CPU to stock, and use static VID (not offset mode) to debug this issue before you do anything else.


If it is not that then I suspect you might need to relax some of the memory sub-timings.

That was defenitly a typo load voltage is 1.250v

Iam am now trying to debug the Sata issue more acuratly before buying a new HDD, thing is this drives work perfectly on my Asus P6T Deluxe.

[cadaveca]

I think you've misunderstood what I meant. I mean there is not an open door to flash any ME you want at any time (officially at least). That update was mandatory that's why it was posted (Win 8 WHQL requirement). It's a flash once affair officially as well, they don't allow going back and forth AFAIK or reflashing the same version again. Hope that makes sense

Unofficially some users have tools that can update the ME. But I didn't tell you that

It does, thanks Raja.

[usoldier]

Sell BIOS blocks? You mean sell BIOS chips? Not sure about that, you'd need to contact RMA. It depends on what is available. Sometimes it's easier for them to swap out a board.

Raja could you please take a look at this thread on Asus Rog Forums and check if theres something being done or looked at to fix this problem.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...untry=&status=


I have the same problem on my MVG i dont know if its a MB problem, but is very anoying has one cannot tweak the system correctly because of this, getting Multiplier stuck all the time is realy bad and only way to fix it is to clear cmos

Quote from the Asus forum.

strange issues with latest bios (1604)
suddenly , changing the cpu multiplier in bios stopped working . for example i changed it to 45 , during post it shows cpu freq @ 4500mhz , then once in windows , max freq is 3700 (under load) .
loaded bios defaults ,changed multi to 45 , same thing . once in windows cpu freq was up to 3700 .
uninstalled asus ai suite - no change .
then switched to second bios chip (original 0257) and walla , everything works fine .
switched back to the first chip , no good ...
finally , cmos reset solved it .
it worked for couple of tries , then got stuck again , now its stuck at 4400mhz , and changing the multiplier had no effect .
i reset the cmos once again , and so far its working .but i dont know when its going to go crazy again .

board is MVE

[Alex-Ro]

Stop using uefi versions higher than 0704 and you are fine,asus messed up some stuff in later uefi's,got that problme with multiplier too on my v extreme...

[usoldier]

Stop using uefi versions higher than 0704 and you are fine,asus messed up some stuff in later uefi's,got that problme with multiplier too on my v extreme...

So i can safely install M5G 0704 from Asus Rog Website Alex ? Iam using Win7 64 btw.

[Alex-Ro]

Sure you can

[usoldier]

Sure you can

Thanks for the help Alex cheers.

[cadaveca]

Stop using uefi versions higher than 0704 and you are fine,asus messed up some stuff in later uefi's,got that problme with multiplier too on my v extreme...

You also need to tell people to not use Windows8. Most are updating to newer BIOS to add "proper" Windows8 support....

Stick to 0704 or newer, and Win7 or WinXP, yeah, it can be fine....

Too bad it says "Windows8 Ready" on the front of the box like a big fat old yard that is starting to unravel! And I tell ya, my four boards have definitely unraveled!




The question remains, how to relate this in the review I'm writing for the Maximus V Extreme..."here's how to break your board, let me show you the exact steps...", or "This board sucks, and gets a 2/10".





Oh, and don't forget those that are flashing newer BIOS because their keyboard or mouse doesn't work in BIOS, only when OS loads...

[andressergio]

im using version 0095 lol and works awesome every new version i dont like tends to be unstable

[usoldier]

This issues are preaty bad, i wonder if its possiple to get a refund cause the product doesnt work has advertised?

[JH_man]

Got a new Maximus V Extreme mobo, started to build the new PC yesterday, and got a few questions:
1- The PCI-E power connector, should I connect it if I do NOT use SLI/Xfire?
2- I am going to use 'alot' of fans, should I use the mobo connectors and bios/software fan controll, or should I get a bayslot fan controller?
3- Should I use the latest BIOS or is there a special one I should go for?
4- I am just going to connect a SSD which I connect to the Intel 6gb port. Should I use a different 3gb (sata 300) port for the dvd drive?

If there is any general things I should know about this board, please give it!

EDIT:
I am a OC noob, and plan to try the OC Genie or what it is called. What can I normally hope for on a i/ 3770K? 4,3ghz? 4,5 ghz? Should I run the OC gamer thing in BIOS, or use the software in windows (win7 Pro)?

jarle

[LardArse]

Raja could you please take a look at this thread on Asus Rog Forums and check if theres something being done or looked at to fix this problem.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...untry=&status=


I have the same problem on my MVG i dont know if its a MB problem, but is very anoying has one cannot tweak the system correctly because of this, getting Multiplier stuck all the time is realy bad and only way to fix it is to clear cmos

Quote from the Asus forum.

strange issues with latest bios (1604)
suddenly , changing the cpu multiplier in bios stopped working . for example i changed it to 45 , during post it shows cpu freq @ 4500mhz , then once in windows , max freq is 3700 (under load) .
loaded bios defaults ,changed multi to 45 , same thing . once in windows cpu freq was up to 3700 .
uninstalled asus ai suite - no change .
then switched to second bios chip (original 0257) and walla , everything works fine .
switched back to the first chip , no good ...
finally , cmos reset solved it .
it worked for couple of tries , then got stuck again , now its stuck at 4400mhz , and changing the multiplier had no effect .
i reset the cmos once again , and so far its working .but i dont know when its going to go crazy again .

board is MVE

managed to replicate this , will update

[JH_man]

Got my new machine set up on saturday, so far so 'good', but a few things I do not understand.

The machine:
ASUS Maximus V Extreme 1155 (default bios, 1408 or what it is called)
Kingston DDR3 HyperX Beast 16GB 2400MHz 2x8GB KIT CL11 HyperX Beast (KHX24C11T3K2/16X)
Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series 512GB
Intel Core i7-3770K
Corsair H80i Hydro Series cooler with 2 Corsair AF120 Performance 120mm fans in push+pull (default ones swaped out)
Corsair Obsidian 550D Midi Tower with Corsair AF140 Quiet Edition 140mm in the side door
Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB GDDR5
ASUS BC-12B1ST, BD-Reader/DVD-Writer
Windows 7 Pro 64bit

The RAM do not have a XMP profile for 1666 mhz (kinda sad, my bad, too noob to check for this) so it defaults to jedec 1333 mhz (got no interest in running at this low speed). If i run all stock with this ram setting, all looks normal. CPU speedsteps up/down and also adjust power up and down.

When I select XMP profile 2133 is when things get strange. CPU is LOCKED in turbo mode at 3900 (100x39), it NEVER speedsteps, only adjust watt usage depending on usage. And the volt is 1.1x when idle and 1.0x when under full load. Rock stable, 'Intel Extreme testing tool' burn (all cores/threads) results in about 70 degrees CELSIUS, also gfx card is OCed to 1025/1525 with fan set to 60% when playing, case fans at 1000 rpm, and fans on Hydro 80i set to 1600 rpm. Also looping Unigine Valley with no problems, gfx card caps at about 70 degrees CELSIUS.

I do not understand how I can get the CPU to speedstep at this setting, I have checked all bios settings, and as noobish me can see they are all set to enable speedstep/powersave. I do not understand that this low volt setting can be correct at 3,9 ghz. Is it a bios bug? Both CPU-z and Aida64 show same values. Neither do I understand why I get this high temp at this low volt, and with this good cooling (can be badish fitting of paste/block, but I doubt it).

I have checked for info on the Extreme bios settings, and the ones I find are not detailed enough for noobish me. Several settings are not mentioned, and for example how to manually set volt etc are not detailed, neither is speedsteping (there are several settings all over the bios). The bios on this card is very different from my 5 year old x38 card.

Any input/help/suggestions would be super!

PS! Do NOT use Aida64 gfx test, this thing is doing something strange, and I do believe it can damage your card (it produces gfx artifacts which indicates things are not good/overheating).

[Raja@ASUS]

Make sure C1E and Speedstep is enabled in the CPU Settings section (I think XMP might be disabling it). Windows power profile needs to be set on Balanced and at its default settings for processor power management also. CPU Vcore should be in Offset mode for power saving voltage changes as well.