yea, i meant water:ambient (air in). 3.5C is pretty nice!! as for the results of the supremecy, could it have the same love for tension that the supreme had? what tension did you test at for the paste? how much difference was there between paste and IX? i'll be the first to admit: i usually just go straight to the IX results because pressure can have so much influence on the results that my results could vary greatly from yours (sometimes as much as 5-6C) - whereas the consistency with IX is what i chose to look at first. anywho, i would still like to see the supreme results with IX (to compare both with the 380, and the supremecy). honestly, the results of the supremecy on IX were rather dissapointing. are you sure you had a good flow lol? (j/k)