***ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Owners Thread***

[Canis-X]

ASUS Rampage IV Extreme Bios 1404

Bios 1404

Modded RSTe ROM 3.1.0.2101

Modded Bios 1404 with Updated RSTe ROM
Use At your Own Risk!

I can Comfirm modded working fine currently on my rampage IV extreme

I downloaded the file twice and when I try to flash this it tells me that it is not an EFI BIOS. Any suggestions?

[Random Murderer]

For h24 is better to be "High" or "Ultra High" for the LLC?
And 1.34v for the vcore in h24 is reasonable (WC)?

Thanks

High.
1.34v is reasonable for air. You shouldn't have to worry about voltage being too high until about 1.45-1.5 on water, unless temps start getting too high.

I downloaded the file twice and when I try to flash this it tells me that it is not an EFI BIOS. Any suggestions?

Did you try forcing the flash by using the ROGConnect port and a usb stick?

[Anvil]

I just installed 1404 w/ the modded option rom using Asus Update (part of suite II) and it worked just fine.

[Canis-X]

Cool! Thanks for the ideas, I'll give them a try this evening and let you know.

I got it installed via AI Suite II successfully. Thanks everyone!

[Ice009]

What's the best way to flash the BIOS on the R4F? Should I use ROG connect or just the EZ Flash 2?

I'm currently on 1202 and have got my overclock set up with Offset at 4.5Ghz. I'm quite happy with those overclock as it is Prime95 27.7 stable over a 22 hour run, but I am also having a problem with the computer waking up from sleep properly.

Do you guys think this is a BIOS issue? It happens on stock clocks too, so not sure if it is a MB issue. When it wakes up from S3 sleep RealTempGT shows the temps as 91 degrees on each core and the CPU speed seems to be locked at 1200Mhz, I guess it's in a throttled state? Could it possibly be an issue with my SSD? SSD is a Crucial M4 with 309 firmware. Should I try updating the firmware on that first to the latest before flashing to the latest BIOS?

[Random Murderer]

It seems different people are having luck with different methods. I've used the ROG Connect method three times without problem, Anvil and Canis-X used AiSuite II to flash from Windows, and another guy from a different forum has been using EZ Flash exclusively. It's just personal preference, really.

[D749]

Are real RST/RSTe drivers going to come out for our board? I still can't access S.M.A.R.T. information and I'm not even running a RAID setup.

[cx-ray]

Perhaps the problem is the software that you're using? With AIDA64 for instance I can read S.M.A.R.T. info including that of RAID drives.

[tistou77]

High.
1.34v is reasonable for air. You shouldn't have to worry about voltage being too high until about 1.45-1.5 on water, unless temps start getting too high.

Ok, thanks

With Ultra High, the Vcore can be lower in "idle",

With High, 1.33v on idle, 1.34v on Load (currently)
With U. High, for example, 1.31v on idle, 1.34v on Load

it is not better?

Thanks

[xarot]

It seems different people are having luck with different methods. I've used the ROG Connect method three times without problem, Anvil and Canis-X used AiSuite II to flash from Windows, and another guy from a different forum has been using EZ Flash exclusively. It's just personal preference, really.

Personally I would never flash any BIOS from Windows ever again. I've had much success in the past with this option as well, but once left with an empty BIOS chip while the system is still running. Reflashing just didn't work and the system could not be shut down because it would not boot up again. This is from the 680i days but still.

[WicKeDcHilD]

Personally I would never flash any BIOS from Windows ever again. I've had much success in the past with this option as well, but once left with an empty BIOS chip while the system is still running. Reflashing just didn't work and the system could not be shut down because it would not boot up again. This is from the 680i days but still.

Wouldn't that be kinda hard to mess up, now that we have dual bios's?

[Random Murderer]

Ok, thanks

With Ultra High, the Vcore can be lower in "idle",

With High, 1.33v on idle, 1.34v on Load (currently)
With U. High, for example, 1.31v on idle, 1.34v on Load

it is not better?

Thanks

No. Your Vcore should be set to the value you want under load, not idle. Setting it to the value you want to idle at and then using LLC to raise that voltage to where you want your load voltage is generally a bad idea.
If you want your Vcore to lower during idle states, you should use Offset mode for setting the board to add a specified amount of voltage to the VID to reach your target load Vcore rather than having LLC overcompensate for VDroop and supply too much voltage.

If someone else could jump in and explain better, it would be appreciated.

[tistou77]

Thank you very much for your explanation Random Murderer, I will try to find a tutorial for offset

It is better Vcore fixed or Offset?

[Anvil]

Personally I would never flash any BIOS from Windows ever again. ...
This is from the 680i days but still.

I normally flash from BIOS but the ROM option update made me give the update utility a try. (as it wasn't recognized as a EFI bios using normal procedures)

The same happened a few weeks ago on an P8P67 Deluxe, again there were no issues and so I'll probably continue as long as there are option ROM updates that needs testing.

[Piggin]

Can someone please help me
I am currently running 2 680GTX's in SLi on my RIVE
I have one card in PCI-E slot 1 & the other in slot 4 (as per the user guide)
I would like to add another 680 GTX to my setup so its 3 way SLi
The user manual says to put the cards in slots 1, 2 & 4 to give 16x8x16 (which is not a problem)

The question is, what do I do with my ASUS Xonar Xense sound card so the three cards stay at 16x8x16?

Hopefully someone will have the answer as google is not my friend & I have spent the last 5 hours looking at build logs.

[Random Murderer]

Wouldn't that be kinda hard to mess up, now that we have dual bios's?

That's very true, there are a few easy ways to rectify the situation:
1) ROGConnect flashing doesn't even need a CPU or RAM installed. As long as the board is getting power, you can force a flash to the selected BIOS chip.
2) The BIOS chips are in DIP8 sockets for easy removal/replacement. I'm not sure about anyone else here, but I have the ability to flash DIP8 ROMs with a USB programmer, so if worst comes to worst, I can just remove the BIOS chip from the RIVE, put it in the programmer, go to another computer and flash the BIOS using that computer and the programmer. Even without a programmer, you can buy pre-programmed BIOS chips online and just pop the new chip in the socket.
3)Swap the two chips and boot. It'll say something like "Updating iROG 1." Once that's done, you should be good to go.

Thank you very much for your explanation Random Murderer, I will try to find a tutorial for offset

It is better Vcore fixed or Offset?

Depends on the situation. I use fixed so I can't really comment on how to properly set up an offset.
In this situation, I'm just going to point you towards Raja or LardArse. They can answer your question much better than I can.

Can someone please help me
I am currently running 2 680GTX's in SLi on my RIVE
I have one card in PCI-E slot 1 & the other in slot 4 (as per the user guide)
I would like to add another 680 GTX to my setup so its 3 way SLi
The user manual says to put the cards in slots 1, 2 & 4 to give 16x8x16 (which is not a problem)

The question is, what do I do with my ASUS Xonar Xense sound card so the three cards stay at 16x8x16?

Hopefully someone will have the answer as google is not my friend & I have spent the last 5 hours looking at build logs.

The only way would be to put the Xense in the x1 slot, which would require the bottom-most 680 to have a single-slot cooler(pretty much the only way that'll happen is if you're watercooling).
Otherwise, you'll have to put the Xense in x16 slot 5, which will reduce your 680s to x16/x8/x8.

[tistou77]

Ok thanks Random Murderer

[Piggin]

The only way would be to put the Xense in the x1 slot, which would require the bottom-most 680 to have a single-slot cooler(pretty much the only way that'll happen is if you're watercooling).
Otherwise, you'll have to put the Xense in x16 slot 5, which will reduce your 680s to x16/x8/x8.

Thanks Random Murderer for the very quick response.
I should have explained that the cards all have water blocks fitted.
I have looked at the x1 slot but there is not enough room as the cards take up two spaces due to the double size backing plates.
This means the sound card will fit on the board but the rear of the card hits the card in slot 4.

Do I have another option for a sound card?

Or will in not see much of a decrease @ x16/x8/x8

[Random Murderer]

Thanks Random Murderer for the very quick response.
I should have explained that the cards all have water blocks fitted.
I have looked at the x1 slot but there is not enough room as the cards take up two spaces due to the double size backing plates.
This means the sound card will fit on the board but the rear of the card hits the card in slot 4.

Do I have another option for a sound card?

Or will in not see much of a decrease @ x16/x8/x8

Honestly, it's not that big of a deal. Theoretically, PCIE 3.0 x8 has the exact same bandwidth of PCIE 2.0 x16. Extensive testing by TPU's W1zzard proved this so with a GTX680 and HD7970 on an IVB platform. His test reults show that even running both cards ran at full PCIE 3.0 x16, there is a max of 1% performance increase over 3.0 x8.
Granted he tested only a single GPU setup, I wouldn't imagine you'd be able to saturate all of that bandwidth even with 3 GTX680s.

[Stijndp]

Does the R4E show any decline in OC capabilities with filling all 8mem slots instead of only 4?

I'm asking because I destroyed 2 R2G by filling 6slots and my current R2E has bad bclk overclocking and high degradation from filling 6slots.
I don't want another $400 board that stops living an overclocking life after only 2years.

[Piggin]

Honestly, it's not that big of a deal. Theoretically, PCIE 3.0 x8 has the exact same bandwidth of PCIE 2.0 x16. Extensive testing by TPU's W1zzard proved this so with a GTX680 and HD7970 on an IVB platform. His test reults show that even running both cards ran at full PCIE 3.0 x16, there is a max of 1% performance increase over 3.0 x8.
Granted he tested only a single GPU setup, I wouldn't imagine you'd be able to saturate all of that bandwidth even with 3 GTX680s.

Thank you Random Murderer for the reply.
Looks like I will have another 680GTX on its way

[holystarlight]

3.1.0.1085 RSTe and the S.M.A.R.T reading in AIDA64 is working fine for me, Using the modded bios,
And anyone having problems installing the modded bios Try using the AI Suite to update/flash the bios, Should work fine.

[holystarlight]

What's the best way to flash the BIOS on the R4F? Should I use ROG connect or just the EZ Flash 2?

I'm currently on 1202 and have got my overclock set up with Offset at 4.5Ghz. I'm quite happy with those overclock as it is Prime95 27.7 stable over a 22 hour run, but I am also having a problem with the computer waking up from sleep properly.

Do you guys think this is a BIOS issue? It happens on stock clocks too, so not sure if it is a MB issue. When it wakes up from S3 sleep RealTempGT shows the temps as 91 degrees on each core and the CPU speed seems to be locked at 1200Mhz, I guess it's in a throttled state? Could it possibly be an issue with my SSD? SSD is a Crucial M4 with 309 firmware. Should I try updating the firmware on that first to the latest before flashing to the latest BIOS?

latest BIOS 1404 for the Rampage 4 Formula with the latest Intel ROM 3.1.0.2101 modded
install via AI Suite.

[tistou77]

You prefer using the Offset or Normal Vcore for your OC?
For the LLC, you use Medium or High (or other)?

I tested the offset, and I find that the voltage (Vcore) is not really stable
Probably because it's based on the VID, and the VID is not "stable"

For me, the VID does not vary much between 4.5 and 4.6Ghz (Core Temp and Aida64)

4.5GHz: 1.3511v
4.6Ghz: 1.3561v

Thanks

[Random Murderer]

You prefer using the Offset or Normal Vcore for your OC?
For the LLC, you use Medium or High (or other)?

I tested the offset, and I find that the voltage (Vcore) is not really stable
Probably because it's based on the VID, and the VID is not "stable"

For me, the VID does not vary much between 4.5 and 4.6Ghz (Core Temp and Aida64)

4.5GHz: 1.3511v
4.6Ghz: 1.3561v

Thanks

Not sure if you've seen this or not:
Rampage IV Extreme UEFI Guide for Overclocking

It's a very informative read, but you should start with post #7. tijgert had a conversation with Raja about using offset, and Raja does a great job of explaining how to set up offset to get your desired voltage.
As for your opening question, I use High LLC and Normal VCore. I don't bother with power-saving features when overclocking, so having the processor run at full clock speed and full voltage all the time doesn't bother me one bit. However, I do know there are people who prefer to leave SpeedStep and the like enabled when overclocked to reduce power consumption, and for that reason there is the option for VID offset.


BTW, I hate being the only one that responds. C'mon people! I'm far from being as knowledgeable as most of you who have posted in here before, so why am I the only one answering questions?