EK Supremacy

[Church]

Oh, now there is written about different thickness of jet plates, nice. Imho much needed for IB with it's narrow core and bad thermal contact of core & IHS. Still, tiborr: how about making alternative block versions (or at very least - replacement tops) with "old" looks?

[fr0wn3r]

I don't mind the looks. It's not great looking but if it gets us more flow and lower temps I'll buy it. However, 2 months ago I got the Supreme HF so I will stick with it for a while. Though, I must admit that I've never been the guy that gives a damn about looks/performance ratio - functionality usually drives my mind.

I do like that metal logo detail on the top. Also, those rings on plexi top could be an interesting detail when illuminated with LEDs.

Anyway, waiting for the upcoming reviews.

[Slave1974]

People will be arguing with their wallets. These blocks are ugly. So many people saying it should matter. If the product is awesome, but no one buys it, will you keep your doors open?

[Marcusk]

People will be arguing with their wallets. These blocks are ugly. So many people saying it should matter. If the product is awesome, but no one buys it, will you keep your doors open?

And one problem is people will still buy it because of the supposed better performance, and since they may need a new block and the old ones aren't sold anymore, so it might look like people like the new looks on his salesnumbers even if they prefer the old blocks look.

[zalbard]

Beauty is in the eyes of beholder. I see no point in arguing about the looks with anyone.

Would you perhaps like to put up a poll on these forums to see if people like the new design and want to have alternative 'plain' tops available?

[muppenz]

I really love all of EK products and their quality, but the design with these circles are just honestly quite bad. I wish we'd been told sooner of coming changes to the design. How I wish they'd release the waterblock for asus gtx 680 DCII top with the old design I'm guessing that's out of the picture now.

[DarthBeavis]

@churchy: Beauty is in the eyes of beholder. I see no point in arguing about the looks with anyone.

then you should be fired if you work for EK. Customers have a right to give feedback on product design. Saying you do not care what customers think is spitting in our faces. How pathetic. You guys used to do it right. Even with your missteps with quality you still had the chance to improve things. This attitude indicates we should COMPLETELY write you off.

[prava]

I like your tone on these forums much better than what you type on others. Civil and argumented, just like it should be.

@churchy: Beauty is in the eyes of beholder. I see no point in arguing about the looks with anyone.

Full EK CSQ build (EVGA X79 Classy, 7970 crossfire, Corsair Dominator):

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Not when your job is to sell a product. Just look at the potential customers that are complaining over the aesthetic changes, and then compare to the ones who aren't. See the trent?

then you should be fired if you work for EK. Customers have a right to give feedback on product design. Saying you do not care what customers think is spitting in our faces. How pathetic. You guys used to do it right. Even with your missteps with quality you still had the chance to improve things. This attitude indicates we should COMPLETELY write you off.

Specially when so many people complained about that issue... and, also, because of the fact that EK products have also been clean looking. We should be given, at least, the opportunity to choose between this new look and the one we had forever..and we actually liked.

[AmuseMe]

When you're too stiff to slow down your milling process to eliminate rough milling marks - simply implement the design into the rest of the product!

[DarthBeavis]

When you're too stiff to slow down your milling process to eliminate rough milling marks - simply implement the design into the rest of the product!

LOL - looks like Andy Warhol designs to me . . .their new spokesman should be

[Edited]

Hmm.. I don't know about this. For my own part, as a loyal EK customer for years, I will probably jump over to AquaComputer or Heatkiller the next time I am about to upgrade. The reason for that, as other has mentioned, is because the horrible circle-design quite frankly disturbs me. It looks cheap and is very little aesthetic at all. The metal imprint thingy, the new font location and technique is although not so bad, but needs to be refined.

EK Supreme Rev 1 was fantastic
EK Supreme Rev 2 with the jetplates was fantastic
EK Supreme Rev 3 with the enlarged EK logo was also good looking
EK Supreme LTX/Lite all look good also.
Now, EK Supreme Cu-versions are my favourites - will the design be put on theese also?

Look, EK - I am a big fan, hands DOWN, but I just wont put this in my computer, i think it looks horrific. I call a poll regarding the community opinions for the new design. Not just the CPU block, ofc, but the whole circle-thingy.

Best regards!

[ohms]

My god they are absolutely horrid. I hope that the Geforce 680 blocks aren't like this. Who was the insane madman who thought that circles covering the entire block would look good?

I shall use these 2 emotes to describe the blocks

[caveman_2]

the xfire/sli birdge looks like its wrapped in christmas paper

[mcleotg]

@churchy: Beauty is in the eyes of beholder.

We are a good representation of beholders (beholder: a person who becomes aware (of things or events) through the senses.) of your product and we think it looks terrible. Please go and change it.

[paulbagz]

I'll take a block that's 2 degrees hotter if it looks better.

-PB

[st0ned]

I'll take a block that's 2 degrees hotter if it looks better.

-PB

I definitely wouldn't. Performance >>> Looks. I think this can be seen both ways and isn't a consensual opinion in LC community.

[paulbagz]

2 degrees though?

I wouldn't mind seeing the opionions of highly sponsored builders where looks are everything more so then performance.

Each to their own, but I would choose an older EK block for the same card over a newer circle/square block that had just that smidge better peformance.

Because in the end, even with a high OC etc, what's the difference between 47 degrees and 45 degrees under full load? (inb4 "2 degrees" smart arses )

-PB

[st0ned]

Well I would spend 50€ for 2ºC so yeah, for sure I would go with bad looking. But yeah I'm not one of those builders and I don't care about aestetics

[DarthBeavis]

2 degrees though?

I wouldn't mind seeing the opionions of highly sponsored builders where looks are everything more so then performance.

Each to their own, but I would choose an older EK block for the same card over a newer circle/square block that had just that smidge better peformance.

Because in the end, even with a high OC etc, what's the difference between 47 degrees and 45 degrees under full load? (inb4 "2 degrees" smart arses )

-PB

I am that highly-sponsored builder. If I was worried about a 2 degree delta then I would go more extreme routes then water-cooling like building in a single stage or cascade phase change system.

[musicfan]

It is a mistake to assume the 2°C improvement until it can be verified by independent testing. We have heard this from block makers before they were tested by Martin or Skinnee or others. And, there are many CPU blocks with good flow. EK needs to prove this performance is better than what is out there by sending this block out for testing. Until then, water-coolers should feel free to judge by appearance. I am into performance far more than appearance but cannot find anything appealing in this new design. I voted No in the Poll. Sorry EK, you can do better.

[CrazyNutz]

Beauty is in the eyes of beholder. I see no point in arguing about the looks with anyone.

According to the current poll http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...le-Design-POLL you guys (EK) are targeting a small group of beholder's. Just saying

[xmtsystems]

According to the current poll http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...le-Design-POLL you guys (EK) are targeting a small group of beholder's. Just saying

QFT These new EK Blocks are absolutely hideous. EK's response to their customers "I see no point in arguing about the looks with anyone." shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone anymore. They have proven time and time again that they don't care one iota about their customers, or their quality control.

That quote from tiborrr is enough for me to throw out any consideration I might have of using EK again. It's like Cartman saying "Whatever, I do what I want". Eddy needs to kill that mindset in his company, and take a serious look at how low the public opinion of EK is right now.

[Church]

xmtsystems: Don't overblow it. They just did mistake (probably very costly one though, if one would calculate potential costs of redoing designs and production lines and also having old round patterned design stock that probably will need price drop to move from the shelves) and now feel confused. They designed blocks this way with thought that it would look cool/different and felt pride in their products. It's not not-caring about customers, just costly mistake. To err is being human, cut some slack.
tyborr: btw, i liked one design bit for new supremacy - their mounting plate straight squared off edges. As for top .. with it's current shape it probably won't look very good/will look too empty with plane square shape. Not much clues as to what would be best way around it. Hmm, maybe some cuts at angle at corners, or as variant - at sides (as subvariant only in middles of the sides)? It might still catch a bit of new design of square forms/lines.

[DarthBeavis]

xmtsystems: Don't overblow it. They just did mistake (probably very costly one though, if one would calculate potential costs of redoing designs and production lines and also having old round patterned design stock that probably will need price drop to move from the shelves) and now feel confused. They designed blocks this way with thought that it would look cool/different and felt pride in their products. It's not not-caring about customers, just costly mistake. To err is being human, cut some slack.
tyborr: btw, i liked one design bit for new supremacy - their mounting plate straight squared off edges. As for top .. with it's current shape it probably won't look very good/will look too empty with plane square shape. Not much clues as to what would be best way around it. Hmm, maybe some cuts at angle at corners, or as variant - at sides (as subvariant only in middles of the sides)? It might still catch a bit of new design of square forms/lines.

uh, no. read tyborr's response. That says NOT CARING ABOUT CUSTOMERS.

[Roadhog]

Next they will be making aluminum blocks.