EK Supremacy

[Erklat]

Guys, from what I've seen, most people that are raging aren't raging about the design itself, but about the statement by tiborrr and the lack of response from EK about not listening to their customers. What they're doing is in pretty bad taste, just like with the nickel plating fiasco.

Not exactly. When nickel plating fiasco happened a lot of people were actually damaged by it so the rage was justified.
Their design change is their decision and whether they are good or bad will be shown to them in their statistical reports at the end of the quarter or the business year.
So, this is not the case of doing any material damage to anyone here except themselves probably, but instead a thing of damaged egos here, to which I implied on a few occasions, but some don't know when is time to pull the plug.
Been there, done that. Raged too, linked forum administration with various conspiracy theories, and let me tell you - it's usually last bus stop before permaban.
Neither any graphics manufacturer asks you about their fan sticker design, nor does Apple asks you for design of their new iSomething. You Americans of all have plenty to choose from.

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[muppenz]

It's a shame with the new looks. I was eagerly awaiting their DCII block, only to see it with the new design and also not even a copper version of it (not going to touch any of their nickel products). I cancelled my Asus DCII and ordered a regular Asus GTX 680, alongside a HeatKiller for it. Thanks EK, but I will not support your design choices and choices of material in regards to your new product lines.

[AVulgarPicture]

man. i cant believe no one has noticed that the new full cover blocks can only be plumbed from below unless you buy an adaptor (which is more money)

the only thing i approve of is that they dont have that gigantic fu.cking EK taking up the entire acetel section like on the ram blocks.

[Evantaur]

man. i cant believe no one has noticed that the new full cover blocks can only be plumbed from below unless you buy an adaptor (which is more money).

It's only DC2 blocks, i believe it has been like that for a while now.

[Mobsters]

It seems to be all new gtx 680 "CSQ" blocks that have this one side only holes...

[lennox]

I just saw these blocks on PPCs and was wondering what the hell are they thinking with the circles?? It makes them look cheap

[ohms]

Perhaps it is a "witch hunt" because of actions displayed by EK before with the Nickel plating issues,cracked reservoirs and now this like many people have already stated.

EK is in serious need of a PR person to do damage control and to deal with the forum masses in a better manner other then "I see no point in arguing about the looks with anyone.".

Yeah, well guess what Tiborrr and Eddy? When your consumer base ultimately makes or breaks your (EKs) success you should discuss/argue on such topics or at least give some reasons as to why it was done or perhaps answer simple questions that the community/consumer base is inquiring into.


And I apologize ahead of time for this.

This smells like protecting EK to me.

I do agree with DB here.

[Buckeye]

I can agree with you 100% that EK needs some serious PR. If it was me I would not do it here tho, you guys are all to hostile twards EK and I have no idea what it will take to clear that up.

There is nothing wrong with what ever design they come up with and I think what tiborr is saying is its a matter of taste, some like it, some don't. It's actually a rather trivial mater to discus over and over and over until our eyes bleed.

When Gigabyte came out with those Sniper Motherboards with the fake gun, ammo clip etc I think many did not like that, I know I didn't. Did it matter to them ? no as they still make them in all kinds of versions and people buy them all over the place, I would not tho.

I had other problems with that same motherboard company, boards dying, network ports going out, RMAing dead GPUs that were a month old and getting back the exact same GPU, still dead after waiting for weeks. I had customers to deal with so I did what I had to and switch brands and have never been happier.

The point I am trying to make is, if you don't like the design, then don't buy them, move to other brands that you do like.

I think the people who have agenda's here are the ones who keep posting over and over about this issue because this is like thread number 4 that just goes on and on about this design.

[CrazyNutz]

Buckeye, the frustrating part is, I like EK I have from the beginning. When the plating fiasco surfaced, I did not drop a single comment. Why? Because I was never effected by it. Even though there were claims they made that I thought were very bogus, I remained silent.

I just want you to know I created the Poll to get opinions, particularly from EK customers. So that EK could see that %5 like it, and a whopping %95 dislike it, and in hindsight It should have been a poll with comments disabled. I apologize if it caused you any grief

[Buckeye]

CrazyNutz the poll was not a problem, its cool man don't worry about it.

[DarthBeavis]

I can agree with you 100% that EK needs some serious PR. If it was me I would not do it here tho, you guys are all to hostile twards EK and I have no idea what it will take to clear that up.

There is nothing wrong with what ever design they come up with and I think what tiborr is saying is its a matter of taste, some like it, some don't. It's actually a rather trivial mater to discus over and over and over until our eyes bleed.

When Gigabyte came out with those Sniper Motherboards with the fake gun, ammo clip etc I think many did not like that, I know I didn't. Did it matter to them ? no as they still make them in all kinds of versions and people buy them all over the place, I would not tho.

I had other problems with that same motherboard company, boards dying, network ports going out, RMAing dead GPUs that were a month old and getting back the exact same GPU, still dead after waiting for weeks. I had customers to deal with so I did what I had to and switch brands and have never been happier.

The point I am trying to make is, if you don't like the design, then don't buy them, move to other brands that you do like.

I think the people who have agenda's here are the ones who keep posting over and over about this issue because this is like thread number 4 that just goes on and on about this design.

BS. Even I would be MORE than willing to hear their side and would praise them if they agreed to offer the older style designs along side their new ones and also if they took responsibility for their quality control problems instead of blaming everyone else under the sun. I would like EK to be what they used to be as much as anyone else as I want to have their offerings as an option.

If I do not like their designs I will SAY something about it. This is a public forum. Are you saying DO NOT SAY you do not like it publicly?

EK made this a bigger problem with their response. I am surprised you cannot comprehend this.

[DarthBeavis]

Buckeye, the frustrating part is, I like EK I have from the beginning. When the plating fiasco surfaced, I did not drop a single comment. Why? Because I was never effected by it. Even though there were claims they made that I thought were very bogus, I remained silent.

I just want you to know I created the Poll to get opinions, particularly from EK customers. So that EK could see that %5 like it, and a whopping %95 dislike it, and in hindsight It should have been a poll with comments disabled. I apologize if it caused you any grief

The poll was a great idea. It only got closed because XS mods thought it was mine. Still trying to figure out why they have not banned me as they have others for commenting. Hopefully I will survive here long enough to make it to the XS party (now that Fugger, Movieman, Vapor, and I are on good terms). That is the one event where all of this drama really becomes interesting.

[scamps]

It would be great to come back to topic... other threads are closed not without reason.

Does somebody already have this block and some information regarding internals and performance? If not EK itself - perhaps someone else would provide us with selfmade tops for it

[st0ned]

Well mine should arrive today I'll start testing not short after. I'll take some pics of the internals too. I also have to find out what's the best nozzle to use for direct Die cooling on my 3770k. I allready have my EK Supreme -HF full Ni all benched out so I'll be to do some interesting comparations

[tiborrr]

I hope you do receive the competitors water blocks. Thank you for all the work you have done so far.

Best Regards,
Niko

[Church]

tiborrr: i'm curious, if HF's plates can be used on supremacy. As in it imho might be interesting to test with more restrictive plates, to turn lesser pressure drop of new drop in even better temps, with those plates seemingly being obvious option to try..

Hhe, and nice to see storm calming down.

[tiborrr]

No, they can't be used on HF. They will not fit the slot on the HF.

Regards,
N.

[scamps]

No, they can't be used on HF. They will not fit the slot on the HF.

Regards,
N.

without knowing any detail of the internals of Supremacy:
What do you think about those "wave-plates" of the new Phobya? http://www.hardwaremax.net/wasserkue...a-uc-1-lt.html

I really would like to test such a thing in my HF.

[Church]

scamps: for such waves jetplate needs to be thick enough (weren't HF's rather thin relatively?). Imho you'll get different results not as much from those waves, as rather from different bow/mounting pressure from jetplate's thickness, so for apple to apple comparisons it needs to be compared with jetplate of common cutout but of same thickness.

[BeepBeep2]

No, they can't be used on HF. They will not fit the slot on the HF.

Regards,
N.

You answered the opposite of his question...

[scamps]

scamps: for such waves jetplate needs to be thick enough (weren't HF's rather thin relatively?). Imho you'll get different results not as much from those waves, as rather from different bow/mounting pressure from jetplate's thickness, so for apple to apple comparisons it needs to be compared with jetplate of common cutout but of same thickness.

You are absolutely right. Checked the HF-jetplates in the meantime once again. No chance I guess.

[st0ned]

GSL have been joking with me >< I didn't got this block yet...

[jogshy]

I have a doubt about the new EK block judging the images....
Can support two 1/2"(13-19mm tube) compression fittings without problems? I think the holes are too close together. I want to avoid what happened to me with this XSPC block ( fittings are too close to operate confortably )

[st0ned]

You'll have no problem with that I can assure you [ See last pic, those are 19/13 fittings ]

Some pics of the just arrived block, I hope to have some numbers in a couple of days.

[scamps]

Internal pics?