ASUS Z77 Motherboards - Official Support Thread

[neo_rtr]

Clari fication about crossfire setup.
On the p8z77 ws chapter 2-7 and 2-8 . It says that crossfire setup should use PCIe x16_1 and PCIe x16_2 for PCI express x16 graphics cards.
Just to confirm this is the case.
You see on page 2_7 it says that pcie x16_2 operates at x8 mode

EDIT: I might be misleading you good folks here.

Iam trying to confirm what the proper setup is for a crossfire configuration.
Is it
a) PCIe x16_1 and PCIe x16_2 for PCI express x16 graphics cards.
Or
b) PCIe x16_1 and PCIe x16_3 for PCI express x16 graphics cards.

[fgw]

Raja@ASUS:

any info on release dates of upcoming z77 boards?

maximus 5 formula?
rampage 5???

[Budwise]

I found a work-around for the 6950->6970 bug. I use onboard video as well as the 6950 and I noticed if i set in the bios for the 6950 to be the first initiated graphics then i have 2 issues:
1)All my additional options in CCC go away. The Power Settings in CCC disappear etc.
2)Wont boot with the 6950 on the 6970 bios

Fix/Workaround is to set it so the Integrated Graphics are the first/main initialized graphics in the bios. Effects:
1)the post screen is now only on my 2nd and 3rd smaller monitors. This is a small drawback but not a big deal
2)the Win7 splash screen shows up on only my 2nd and 3rd monitors since the Intel graphics is now the "main" graphics selected in the bios
3)Once i get to the Windows login then all my monitors kick on and everything is fine
4)With this method i can boot using the 6970 bios and i get all my CCC options back.

Unfortunately i think this would not be a valid workaround for someone not using both Intel graphics and dedicated for multi monitors because they would not have another monitor to see the post screens etc like i do. Just thought you guys might like to know...

[Raja@ASUS]

Raja@ASUS:

any info on release dates of upcoming z77 boards?

maximus 5 formula?
rampage 5???

Formula should be soon.

Rampage is for Intel EE edition platforms only so no chance of that until Intel releases the next platform.

[fgw]

Formula should be soon.

Rampage is for Intel EE edition platforms only so no chance of that until Intel releases the next platform.

so formula is the way to go, as there's no EE in sight ...

hopefully it's out within the next couple of weeks. upgrade of my equipment is due. don't know how long i will be able to stand by especially as 680 and 670 are available for some time now. might consider a mv5g if it takes too long.

thanks for the quick response!

[Solid Snake]

I have the same problem with the same Mother Board we need ASAP a BIOS Update.

[Solid Snake]

Raja@ASUS

therealJMC reported that he received bios 0703 for his P8Z77 WS resolving issue with LSI raid cards.
I believe that the same fix has been prepared for other Z77 boards. Could you please provide me with the fix for P8Z77-V Deluxe? I really apprecialte it.

Dear Raja.

I have the same problem that "DEFLORATOR" I have the RAID CARD LSI 9260 and ASUS P8Z77 Deluxe I tried with all BIOS from webpage but nothing happens, please help us to get a new BIOS.

Regards.

[neo_rtr]

Going back to my question of why can i not disable throttling.

My theory of why one can not adjust to full load with out throttling is this.
There is some interaction between CPU ratio (manual page 3-14) and Enhanced Intel Speedstep as well as Turbo mode (manual page 3-15)
Cpu ration above 35 turns the following to enabled by default.
Therefore the base value x100 times the CPU ration will give you 3.5Ghz. The CPU will operate at 3.5Ghz.
Increasing the CPU ratio turns ON or Enables both Enhanced Intel Speedstep as well as Turbo mode, and there fore you have throttling.
One can disable Enhanced Intel Speedstep but not Turbo mode.
Now if this is by design i dont know. I would like however to be able to "lock" the CPU ratio to what ever speed i wish for what ever purpose that is.

[PiLsY]

So dont overclock using turbo mode, use base multiplier instead and disable turbo.

I am completely failing to understand why you would want to do this though. Why waste electric and stress your components when at idle?

[jackbrennan2008]

Be sure to keep your LucidVirtue MVP drivers up to date. The latest release is: 2.1.113 - May 21st

http://www.lucidlogix.com/driverdownloads-mvp.html

[Solid Snake]

Hi Guys

I have a problem with the P8z77 Deluxe, always the BIOS show me " CPU ERROR Over Voltage" I know but I need to use more than 1.55V and I can't I see all the BIOS and move some parameters but nothing happens.

[Dumo]

BIOS show me " CPU ERROR Over Voltage"

Disabled cpu voltage monitor in bios

[Raja@ASUS]

Going back to my question of why can i not disable throttling.

My theory of why one can not adjust to full load with out throttling is this.
There is some interaction between CPU ratio (manual page 3-14) and Enhanced Intel Speedstep as well as Turbo mode (manual page 3-15)
Cpu ration above 35 turns the following to enabled by default.
Therefore the base value x100 times the CPU ration will give you 3.5Ghz. The CPU will operate at 3.5Ghz.
Increasing the CPU ratio turns ON or Enables both Enhanced Intel Speedstep as well as Turbo mode, and there fore you have throttling.
One can disable Enhanced Intel Speedstep but not Turbo mode.
Now if this is by design i dont know. I would like however to be able to "lock" the CPU ratio to what ever speed i wish for what ever purpose that is.

Do what user Pilsy said or set Windows to High Performance Mode. Nobody else has the issues you cite if they wish to retain maximum frequency. The other poroblem here is that you are years out of date in terms of understanding just how good Intel's low power modes are. The impact of the power saving features is miniscule and has no bearing on 24/7 system performance whatsoever. The gains far outweigh the ramping delay.

I think your beliefs are affected by the fact that you have upgraded from an old system and are somehow caught in the mindset that C-States and SpeedStep hurt overclocking stability. Things have moved a long way since the conception of these technologies, both in terms of how most people understand the tech, and the technology itself (DVID for example).


Also don't confuse "throttling" with Speedstep functions. Throttling in modern terms relating to these platforms is modulation under full load. SpeedStep is for frequency reduction under idle-light load conditions.

-Raja

[neo_rtr]

I think you are correct, when saying iam behind in terms of the understanding.
Thank you sir.

Windows to High Performance Mode is and has been the case since start.

[Raja@ASUS]

I think you are correct, when saying iam behind in terms of the understanding.
Thank you sir.

Windows to High Performance Mode is and has been the case since start.

If that's the case then the multiplier should stay fixed unless you are using an old installation of Windows.

-Raja

[DEFLORATOR]

Hi, Raja,

One piece of bad news: I couldn't wait any longer for bios fix for Deluxe board for LSI cards and had to abandon it.
One piece of good news: I purchased Asus P8Z77 WS instead, whose compatibility with LSI cards has recently been fixed by bios 0703
Could you please clarify what neo_rtr asked before (I feel confused as well):

Clari fication about crossfire setup.
On the p8z77 ws chapter 2-7 and 2-8 . It says that crossfire setup should use PCIe x16_1 and PCIe x16_2 for PCI express x16 graphics cards.
Just to confirm this is the case.
You see on page 2_7 it says that pcie x16_2 operates at x8 mode

EDIT: I might be misleading you good folks here.

Iam trying to confirm what the proper setup is for a crossfire configuration.
Is it
a) PCIe x16_1 and PCIe x16_2 for PCI express x16 graphics cards.
Or
b) PCIe x16_1 and PCIe x16_3 for PCI express x16 graphics cards.

1) It's strange that in manual (page 2-7) it says that slot PCI-E x16_4 (black) is PCI-E 2.0 only. Is it true or is it PCI-E 3.0 compliant as well?
2) Why in manual (page 2-8) is it recommended to use slots _1 and _2 for SLI/CF configuration instead of using _1 and _3 (blue)? I believe that slots _1 and _2 will go x8 if used at the same time. Isn't it better to enjoy PLX advantages and use _1 and _3 for x16 configuration?
3) My Archon doesn't allow me to use _1 slot for videocard. Will slot _2 go x8 if I install my 7970 there and leave slot _1 empty?

Thank you for all your support.

[Raja@ASUS]

Hi, Raja,

One piece of bad news: I couldn't wait any longer for bios fix for Deluxe board for LSI cards and had to abandon it.
One piece of good news: I purchased Asus P8Z77 WS instead, whose compatibility with LSI cards has recently been fixed by bios 0703
Could you please clarify what neo_rtr asked before (I feel confused as well):

1) It's strange that in manual (page 2-7) it says that slot PCI-E x16_4 (black) is PCI-E 2.0 only. Is it true or is it PCI-E 3.0 compliant as well?
2) Why in manual (page 2-8) is it recommended to use slots _1 and _2 for SLI/CF configuration instead of using _1 and _3 (blue)? I believe that slots _1 and _2 will go x8 if used at the same time. Isn't it better to enjoy PLX advantages and use _1 and _3 for x16 configuration?
3) My Archon doesn't allow me to use _1 slot for videocard. Will slot _2 go x8 if I install my 7970 there and leave slot _1 empty?

Thank you for all your support.

Two different boards. But I suppose some overlap.

1) No it's not Gen 3, those lanes are route via PCH.
2) Because both of those are Gen 3.0 and tied to on die CPU PEG bus.
3) Yes slot _2 is X8 only, it takes 8 lanes from _1.

[neo_rtr]

As per previous post
Iam trying to confirm what the proper setup is for a crossfire configuration.
Is it
a) PCIe x16_1 and PCIe x16_2 for PCI express x16 graphics cards.
Or
b) PCIe x16_1 and PCIe x16_3 for PCI express x16 graphics cards.

As you see iam getting two different pieces of information here.
The CCCatalyst will report back x8
Gpuz reports @x16


By neo_rtr at 2012-05-24


ALSO
What will the best program to úse in order to get a proper CPU Temp Reading.
Is it the AI suite from ASUS , Real Temp, AIDA? I notice some differences in values among these three.
AI suite reports higher than AIDA for example.

Some preliminary testing figures can be found here

[Raja@ASUS]

See my post above for GPU lane allocation. Follow the manual.


Use either Aida, Core Temp or Real Temp.

[DEFLORATOR]

Two different boards. But I suppose some overlap.

1) No it's not Gen 3, those lanes are route via PCH.
2) Because both of those are Gen 3.0 and tied to on die CPU PEG bus.
3) Yes slot _2 is X8 only, it takes 8 lanes from _1.

Raja, sorry, all my questions were related WS, not Deluxe.
In spec page it says that it supports 16+16, or 16+8+8, or 8+8+8+8. From this point of view it is supposed that all x16 slots are Gen3 and are coming from CPU via PLX, not PCH. But then page 2-7 says that bottom black is Gen2 only. Where is truth?

[Raja@ASUS]

Raja, sorry, all my questions were related WS, not Deluxe.
In spec page it says that it supports 16+16, or 16+8+8, or 8+8+8+8. From this point of view it is supposed that all x16 slots are Gen3 and are coming from CPU via PLX, not PCH. But then page 2-7 says that bottom black is Gen2 only. Where is truth?

Okay from HQ, they say that is a typo in the manual, that slot should be gen 3. In which case mux is on 16 CPU PEG lanes, to each of those slots.

[neo_rtr]

Currently iam doing what the manual is saying in page 2_8.
Quote: In CrossfireX or SLI mode, use the PCIe 3.2/2.0 x16_1 and PCIe 3.2/2.0 x16_2 slots for PCI Express x16 graphics cards to get better performance.

However the table on page 2_7 refers to x8 / x8.
All iam asking is for clarification. Unfortunatly can not reposition the 2 cards as they are wattercooled and its a bit difficult to do just that.

[Raja@ASUS]

Currently iam doing what the manual is saying in page 2_8.
Quote: In CrossfireX or SLI mode, use the PCIe 3.2/2.0 x16_1 and PCIe 3.2/2.0 x16_2 slots for PCI Express x16 graphics cards to get better performance.

However the table on page 2_7 refers to x8 / x8.
All iam asking is for clarification. Unfortunatly can not reposition the 2 cards as they are wattercooled and its a bit difficult to do just that.

Clarification is above for your board (Deluxe).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5105798

Keep the cards as is. . If you wish further clarification, please email local ASUS support for you region.

[greg.m]

@DEFLORATOR

Have you tried with gpuz or ccc to see if your cards run as pci-gen3, x16 or x8?
If you do that, could you please show us some screenies?

@ Raja

P8Z77-WS question:
You said "In which case mux is on 16 CPU PEG lanes, to each of those slots." Does it mean that if i want to run sli/crossfire it doesnt matter which slots i use? Do all the combinations will give 2times x16?

[Raja@ASUS]

@ Raja

P8Z77-WS question:
You said "In which case mux is on 16 CPU PEG lanes, to each of those slots." Does it mean that if i want to run sli/crossfire it doesnt matter which slots i use? Do all the combinations will give 2times x16?

Check the manual for lane allocation under various loading conditions, it will tell you which slots stay at which bandwidth or should. Not all slots can do 16X and when more than one card is used, 8X is max to any slot.