Kepler Nvidia GeForce GTX 780

**jam2k** · 01-23-2012, 09:02 AM

Charlie says gk104 price is $299: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/23/e...k104-price-is/

**boxleitnerb** · 01-23-2012, 09:04 AM

MRSP 299$ for GK104:
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/23/e...k104-price-is/

Damn, too slow

**[XC] hipno650** · 01-23-2012, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Vardant

Learned what? The difference between 1.5GB and 3GB was negligible. Not to mention, they just upped it by 512MB...

Thats all fine and good for a single 1080P monitor but if you do any of the following it runs out really fast:

-run 2560x1600
-run Nvidia Surround with 3 displays
-use Nvidia 3D Vision

Not to mention the newer games are already on the edge with a single 1080P monitor.

I for one would pretty disappointed if they kept the high end to 2GB considering it is really easy to get Metro 2033 over 2GB as it is...

**3lfk1ng** · 01-23-2012, 09:10 AM

^Agree

I cap out my 2GB 6970 at 5936x1080 (Eyefinity with Bezel Compensation) when I am playing Grand Theft Auto 4.

**Kristoferr** · 01-23-2012, 09:25 AM

If the price is true, theres no way it stands up to HD7950, not to mention 7970.

**Vardant** · 01-23-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

Thats all fine and good for a single 1080P monitor but...

The problem is it just doesn't help

It is either playable with 1.5GB or it isn't at all.

**N19h7m4r3** · 01-23-2012, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Vardant

The problem is it just doesn't help

It is either playable with 1.5GB or it isn't at all.

Can you show some results that don't use SLI please.

Not everyone has two GPU's or can use two.

Hell even in that if you have metreo with x4 AA +DoF, just look at the scores. :/

**Vardant** · 01-23-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

Can you show some results that don't use SLI please.

Previous page - http://tof.canardpc.com/view/a2f56c4...fce6c28e95.jpg

**Lanek** · 01-23-2012, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

Can you show some results that don't use SLI please.

Not everyone has two GPU's or can use two.

Hell even in that if you have metreo with x4 AA +DoF, just look at the scores. :/

Here's the original article from where come thoses benchmarks. ( well in reality the original is Hardware.fr but like that you have in english )

http://www.behardware.com/articles/8...-surround.html

Note you cant do 3 monitors on a single GTX580 ( max 2560x1600 ), this is why the SLI one's for 5760x1080

**N19h7m4r3** · 01-23-2012, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Vardant

Previous page - http://tof.canardpc.com/view/a2f56c4...fce6c28e95.jpg

Originally Posted by Lanek

Here's the original article from where come thoses benchmarks. ( well in reality the original is Hardware.fr but like that you have in english )

http://www.behardware.com/articles/8...-surround.html

Note you cant do 3 monitors on a single GTX580 ( max 2560x1600 ), this is why the SLI one's for 5760x1080

That's not too bad.

I'm currently on 2560x1440, so if Kepler has 2GB I won't mind too much if most games scale like that.

I just hope the power usage isn't bad, as I'm on a Silverstone 600W psu in my m-ITX build.

**SKYMTL** · 01-23-2012, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by boxleitnerb

One of the two would start a price war for sure. I don't expect more than 600$ for the top dog. What good does a card do that no one will buy?

Well, GTX 280 was ~$700
8800 GTX was ~$600
8800 Ultra was ~$800
Radeon X1900 XTX was ~$600

All sold VERY well.

**Krizby87** · 01-23-2012, 11:27 AM

300$ card that is as fast as GTX 580, with 2GB memory and come with huge oc potential would be totally kick a$$, following the trend of success like previous cards the 8800GT, GTX 460. Although it won't be much attraction to the xtreme crowds

**-=DVS=-** · 01-23-2012, 11:30 AM

But economy is different now, games stopped evolving , you no longer need top end card, except for the niche multi screen crowd.

**Cordell Cahill** · 01-23-2012, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Vardant

The problem is it just doesn't help

It is either playable with 1.5GB or it isn't at all.

How many of those games are bumping up against the ram limit? And what's up with the 20% increase in DX11 Metro?

**Cordell Cahill** · 01-23-2012, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Vardant

The problem is it just doesn't help

It is either playable with 1.5GB or it isn't at all.

How many of those games are bumping up against the ram limit? And what's up with the 20% increase in DX11 Metro?

**Dimitriman** · 01-23-2012, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Krizby87

300$ card that is as fast as GTX 580, with 2GB memory and come with huge oc potential would be totally kick a$$, following the trend of success like previous cards the 8800GT, GTX 460. Although it won't be much attraction to the xtreme crowds

Dunno, seems people are expecting a 300$ card that is faster and consumes less power than a 7970 from what I've been reading...

**SKYMTL** · 01-23-2012, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Dimitriman

Dunno, seems people are expecting a 300$ card that is faster and consumes less power than a 7970 from what I've been reading...

Yeah....right.

**Vardant** · 01-23-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cordell Cahill

How many of those games are bumping up against the ram limit? And what's up with the 20% increase in DX11 Metro?

That is the point, most of the games, available or upcoming, won't even hit the 1.5GB limit, so a 2GB card is just fine.

**Cordell Cahill** · 01-23-2012, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Vardant

That is the point, most of the games, available or upcoming, won't even hit the 1.5GB limit, so a 2GB card is just fine.

I currently play 4 games, and 3 of them use 1800mb or more without any AA. It's only gonna get worse as games progress.

**N19h7m4r3** · 01-23-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Cordell Cahill

I currently play 4 games, and 3 of them use 1800mb or more without any AA. It's only gonna get worse as games progress.

Which games are those? I'd be interested

**Jokester_wild** · 01-23-2012, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by -=DVS=-

But economy is different now, games stopped evolving , you no longer need top end card, except for the niche multi screen crowd.

all you have to do is have a larger screen example 27" to have a need for either a faster card or dual cards with the current games. My GTX 580 cant run BF3 maxed out at 2560x1440.

**Jokester_wild** · 01-23-2012, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Well, GTX 280 was ~$700
8800 GTX was ~$600
8800 Ultra was ~$800
Radeon X1900 XTX was ~$600

All sold VERY well.

gtx 280 launched at $650

**Cordell Cahill** · 01-23-2012, 02:09 PM

DP

**Cordell Cahill** · 01-23-2012, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3

Which games are those? I'd be interested

rFactor 2, iRacing, and BF3. The 4th game, rFactor, is 5-6 years old and I don't think it ever goes over 800mb of VRAM usage.

**Tim** · 01-23-2012, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Yeah....right.

IMO Problem is, you are a reviewer and often have got pre knowledge on new stuff. Saying yea right without explaining, people are going to have some questions marks. If you do know more, I don't think you should post that, unless you are going to explain what you know. If you don't know more, then, it's kind of trolling a bit. You obviously do know more, otherwise you wouldn't post that. I don't mean that in a derogatory way, but that is the first thing that came to my mind.

If GK104 is mid range performance, and will launch first, it will be a first that a "4" chip is launched before the flagship product wouldn't it? Why would nVidia do that unless it was at least as fast as 7970? From the current rumours, it seems that will be the case, even from the Charlie articles.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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