My RE4 is on order, and I'm trying to pick a MB waterblock. It seems that currently there are two companies making them. Koolance #MBASR44 and EK #FB KIT RE4. There are a couple of posts in this thread regarding the Koolance block, but nothing (that I saw) on the EK. Any advice on which is better? I'm concerned about cooling performance and about the location of the rear port on the X79 portion of block. The port seems very close to the top PCI slot and may cause clearance issuse between the compression fitting and the first graphics card. I don't know which one has more clearance. Im new to this forum, so if I'm posting in the wrong place, I appologize in advance and appreciate the appropriate redirection.
Thanks for your help.
You see you're right that SATA connectors are very attached to the graphics, so I suggest you connect the cables before installing the graphics card, then you easier access to connections.
With respect to the block EK, the problem that arises is that not all MOSFET cooling, so it is more advisable to Koolance.
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I cannot say which block is best as I only have the Koolance. I can confirm that there are no serious clearance issue on the Koolance and it does a good job keeping temps in line....especially the VRM area that otherwise needs active cooling to overclock into the higher ranges. I will post up some clearance pics later tonight.
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Last edited by Olvik; 01-07-2012 at 09:48 AM.
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Thanks for the comparative pics. I never noticed before that the EK block does not cover the same area as the Koolance. I was leaning towards EK, now you have given me reason to rethink my choice. I wonder if anyone from EK would be able to post a response as to why that area is not covered.
There isn't anything to cool for the lower block except for the PCH. That's all the Koolance does, is "cover" more from view. It's up to you which one you prefer. The only thing that you can argue is that the original cooler blows some cold air onto the other components around it. Then again, you have the option to disable the fan. As long as the PCH doesn't overheat you're fine.
Trying some 3dmark today, 5250mhz tops on water cooling.
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I like the koolance block more (and I have it) because its aligned easier with the VRM block and doesn't interfere with the CPU.
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Maybe the hardware below the EK block doesn't need cooling?
Slightly off topic, but looking at those 2 pictures made me wonder why not try to incorporate a cpu block and the motherboard block all in one peice? With the new X79 board layout, this should be pretty doable. It would surely help cut down on cluttered tubing runs.
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EK block cools as much heat generating components as stock cooler. So does Koolance's block. The other part of the waterblock is just hanging in 'air'. There is nothing there to be cooled as I have said numerous time before.
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Nothing to be cooled or not - whatever. Koolance looks better, because it's nicely surrounding the socket -> I'm getting Koolance![]()
nice u are getting koolance, but tiborr is 200% right, no need cool where don't need coolig, maybe koolance only copy R4E stock cooling and thought need to be cool all the parts asus put a hs haha.BTW i think the EK plexy or nickel must be :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:cat![]()
Hi all....
Asus Rampage IV Bios 1005
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3930k 4900GHZ very easy with:
H2O idle temp 20C full 57C Room 16.5C
100x49
Clock gen filter 20uf
mem 2133 9-11-10-28-2T
volt cpu 1450 llc medium at 130% in the digi power
vtt 1250
vccsa 1250
cpu pll auto set 1900
Set multipler at 100x50 and freeze on windows logo....
I tried all settings,
I raised all voltages,
but nothing .....it is very hard reboot with error 01 and 31.
CPU is a problem or is there some trick I'm missing
thanks.
Last edited by Vinsent; 01-09-2012 at 12:25 PM.
Vinsent ------Clock gen filter 20uf mate!!! That should get you passed the Windows Logo!!! Wether or not its stable you after that you will need to test!!!
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Try lowering memory speed to 1866 just to see if it gets you to windows at 5ghz. You should NOT need to raise ALL voltages to hit 5ghz. Also take screen shots (using f12 in bios) of your bios settings and post them here, will be easier for people to help if they see your bios settings.
You shouldnt need 1.25vccsa for 8gb at 2133, try lowering it to 1.050v, also try lowering vtt, both chips I have tried run 5ghz+ with 1.2vtt tops.
Last edited by OC Nub; 01-09-2012 at 01:29 PM.
Very strangely when I leave PLL on auto it sets at 1.9v...
I have pretty much been running VTT at 1.2 -1.25 for everything.
I am about to put this on the cooler express as soon as I get the nerve up again.
I have tried raising my vcore to 1.56 to run 5.25ghz and it is very unstable but 5.1 seems stable just running wPrime and vantage with 1.48v.
I had a similar issue with the UD7. It would not go over 5.0ghz on liquid even with 1.50- 1.64v on the H100 and the temps were fine. Then on phase it went well over with way less voltage.
Why would that run at 1.9v on auto? and is this normal? In the Bios it runs 1.76 or in that areas on auto.
^I have to hit this chip pretty hard with vcore for anything over 5.1ghz on water. Max benchable is 5.25ghz but needs 1.6+ vcore. Im like you, I need to get up the nerve to try cold again, last summer I killed a couple boards and my best 2600k because of condensation, poor insulating job, humidity.
I believe mine auto sets 1.8 on default, but I still lower it to 1.7 with no problems, most importantly lower vtt and vccsa.
maybe try 1.2 vtt and 1.05 vccsa and work your way up from there on vccsa.
you should not need more than 1.25-1.3 vtt under cold for most clocks unless you have a really voltage hungry chip.
LinX with 30GB+ triggers a shutdown at the same point every single time, it runs flawlessly with smaller amounts but I can't for the life of me figure out why.
Tried everything; all additional power cables are connected, tried increasing current capabilities, increased voltages, lowered RAM frequency and I've tried disabling surge protection, VRM overheating protection and so on with no success. Actively cooling the VRM area too.
Overall the system is perfectly stable in games, virtual machines and what-not, but my curiosity can't let the LinX mystery go unnoticed. I'm thinking maybe it's PSU related considering my 580s overclock like(850 core with 1.1V isn't stable..), or am I missing something obvious here?
The PSU is a HX1000, which essentially consists of two 500W units. The components are identical to Thermaltake's Toughpower 1500 so it should be able to squeeze out a little more than what it was rated for.
Hi all...
This is my 24\7 setting for 4900GHZ...For 5000GHZ any setting any voltage does not work.
Video....Problem 5000GHZ
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Last edited by Vinsent; 01-10-2012 at 04:48 PM.
Try setting CPU vcore boot up voltage manually for 5ghz, to say 1.4-1.45 and see if it will boot.
Is your memory rated 2133 1.6v?
Last edited by OC Nub; 01-10-2012 at 03:54 PM.
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